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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: TAMOWEN4 on Sunday 15 January 12 18:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
was surfing through the internet and came across the record of a Peter McDougall Holburn born in Greenock, and who had emigrated to Australia. He had served in the 1st WW. before retuning to Australia.
My interest in the surname was because my Uncles wife, my Aunt Jennie (Janet) maiden name was Holburn born c 1917 and lived at Ravenscraig farm Greenock. Her parents were John Holburn and Mary Crawford.
I wondered if Peter Holburn might have been a brother of my Aunt?
According to my mother the Holburns were either Tennents or owners of the farm.
Welcome any help
kind regards
Tommy
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Tam
not sure if this is the same one but
there are a few trees on Ancestry
with a Peter McDougall Holburn on them
but they have parents as
James Holburn and Isabella Laidlaw Simpson
and they have his birthdate as 1888
Elaine
Added
1881 census for James and Isabella address is given as Gateside Farm off Inverkip Road
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Thanks Elaine
the article I saw did say Peter was born or lived at Ravenscraig farm. Maybe his father was a relative of my Aunts father??
Tommy
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Hi,
This seems to be him in 1901 living at 13 Shore Place, Gurock, Inverkip
James Holburn 46 head, cowfeeder born Greenock
Robert Holburn 20 son cowfeeder born Inverkip
Jane Millar Holburn 17 dau dairymaid born Greenock
James Holburn 16 son Cowfeeder's Assistant born Greenock
Peter McDougall Holburn 13 son message boy born Greenock
Isabella S Holburn 9 dau born Gurock
Elizabeth Holburn 6 dau born Gourock
Janet S Holburn 5 dau Gourock
Sharon
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I added a wee bit to the other post, :)
1891 census address 9 Murdieston street
1901 address 13 shore Place
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Thanks Sharon
the info you have given is interesting and show the relatives of Peter.
However although my Aunt's name was Janet Holburn she was not born until around 1917 so the Janet listed cannot be her. Also my Aunts parents were John Holburn and Mary Crawford (Mary was born on Islay). John and Mary also worked at Ravenscraig farm.
Sorry that's the only limited info I have from my mother and cousin
Tommy
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Came across this link. Search for Millar & Holborn (ravenscraig farm).
http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk//GetAsset.aspx?id=fAAxADgAOAA4ADIAfAB8AEYAYQBsAHMAZQB8AHwAMAB8AA2
Sharon
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There is a family living at 54 Ann Street
they are all listed as Cowfeeders
there is a John Holburn son aged 13 with them
would you like the list of others
;) hate typing them all out if you dont.
Elaine
sorry not all them are cowfeeders one is a butcher and one a clerk
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Hi Elaine,,
thanks for this. If you want to type it out ok, if not that's fine also.
I think I may have confused things by mentioning Peter Holburn as Sharon listed his family. It does not appear to be the same as my Holburn.
My mum, now 84, remembers walking with her sister in law my aunt to the farm where the Holburns lived.
think I need to get on to Scotlands People :-\
Tommy
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Robert Holburn---------1851 Gnk---------Cowfeeder
Robert Jnr---------------1882 Gnk---------Butcher
Mary ---------------------1883 Gnk---------Housekeeper
James--------------------1884 Gnk---------Cowfeeder
Thomas------------------1886 Gnk---------Clerk
John ---------------------1888 Gnk----------Scholar
Jane----------------------1889 Gnk-------------"
William-------------------1891 Gnk-------------"
Alex-----------------------1892 Gnk-------------"
address 54 Ann Street,
1891 census as above without William and Alex
but Robert snr's wife Janet is on there
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Tam
going a wee bit further back to 1861
Address Head of Ann Street
Robert Holburn--------1826 Gnk---------farmer acres
Jean---------------------1821 Gnk---------
Janet--------------------1850 Gnk
Robert------------------1851 Gnk
John---------------------1853 Gnk
James-------------------1855 Gnk
Graham-----------------1857 Gnk
William McGrecan-----1839 Argylshire-----Domestic Servant
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Thanks Elaine :)
Robert Holburn (Senior) and Janet Holburn ms Scott. Ann St.
One of their sons John Miller Holburn a Dairyman at Gateside Farm (maybe my mum thought it was Ravenscraig) married Mary Crawford at 7 south st Greenock 1912.
My Aunt Jenny (Janet) Holburn was a child of theirs born 1917. I cannot view her birth on SP or find out for definate if she had siblings although my mother has said one of Janets siblings owned a wee shop around Mt Pleasant St.
Thanks for your help
Tommy :)
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The link I gave you had a James Millar living at Ravenscraig farm, wife was Jane Holborn.
Sharon
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Thank you Sharon,
it seems to tie up, Jane Holburn it would be likely to be a sister of the John I'm following up.
Tommy :)
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Robert Holburn Jnr Butcher was my grandfather
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I don't know if this has any connection but the last family to actually farm Drumshantie Farm, Tower Drive, Gourock were Holburns and they emigrated to Australia in 1956. It was then occupied by a non farming tenant for a short while before being demolished. Search Ancestry.com, using 'Holburn Family', for further information. Hope this is helpful.
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hi
South African War Graves 16th July 1916 has a John Simpson Holburn
son Of James Holburn Ravenscraig Farm,
picture attached might be of interest to you