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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Offaly (Kings) => Topic started by: newmark401 on Saturday 21 January 12 15:08 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm looking for some basic biographical information on two early Irish lawn tennis players from King's County (Offaly), the brothers Toler Roberts Garvey and George B. Garvey. They played lawn tennis in the 1880s. I believe both of them were from Parsonstown (Birr), but don't have a date and place of birth for either of them. I'm also looking for a date and place of death for both of them.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
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possible death from the BMD Index for the one with the unusual name
name: Toler Roberts Garvey
registration district: Nenagh
event type: Death
quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1914
age: 80 (est year of birth 1834)
volume: 3 / page: 350
Shane
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there's another slightly more recent, maybe a son of the one above .. that might fit the dates better..
name:Toler Roberts Garvey
registration district: Birr
event type: Death
quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1946
age : 80 (est. year of birth 1866)
volume: 3 / page: 201
Shane
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possibly the Tennis player on the 1901 census :
Garvey household, Oxmantown Mall, Birr (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Birr_Urban/Oxmantown_Mall/1462100/)
and maybe his father ?
Garvey household, Ballycormick (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Cullenwaine/Ballycormick/1467519/)
Shane
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possibly Toler jnr's birth from the extracted records :
Name: [male] Garvey
Birth date: 11 Feb 1865
Birthplace: Parsonstown, Kings Co.
Ref. : 681
Parents : Toler Robert Garvey & Amelia Jane Elizabeth Cox
see : link (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRW1-TSH)
there's another male birth to the same parents the year before - link (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR3Z-624)
here's Toler jnr in 1911 - married, but still no sign of his wife...
Garvey household, Birr rural (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Birr_Rural/Woodfield_or_Tullynisk__Pt__of_Rural_/551087/)
there's a good match for the daughter's birth on the BMD Index :
Name: Inez Garvey
Registration district: Parsonstown
Event type: Birth
Quarter and year: Jul - Sep 1899
Volume: 3 / Page: 424
Shane
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there's another slightly more recent, maybe a son of the one above .. that might fit the dates better..
name:Toler Roberts Garvey
registration district: Birr
event type: Death
quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1946
age : 80 (est. year of birth 1866)
volume: 3 / page: 201
Shane
Hi, Shane,
Thanks very much for that helpful information. There's a George Bloomfield Garvey in the 1911 Census; I believe he's Toler's elder brother. George gives his occupation as civil engineer, M.E., T.C.D.
I don't have an exact date of death for either brother. Toler appears to have died in Birr. The Toler Roberts Garvey who died in Nenagh in 1914 was probably their father.
Mark
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"The Kings County Directory, 1890" has a lot of information about the family. An original copy is to be found at the NLI, or you can get it on CD from Eneclann.
It seems Toler's grandfather, Captain George Garvey a retired Navy captain, bought Thornvale House in the 1820s. His wife's uncle, Major Pepper, lived nearby. George Garvey died in 1879 & his son Toler R. inherited.
Toler married Amelia Cox, of Gloucestershire, and they had three sons: George, Toler R., and Henry, and three daughters. George and Henry graduated from TCD. George worked as an electrical engineer and Toler R worked as a land agent with his father.
There is a brief description of the Garvey family's military tradition in previous generations.
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^^ Thanks for that information on the Garvey family. I had messaged you before I read it.
Mark
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There is a burial in Surrey in 1925 according to FamilySearch:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J8LF-M6D
Could this be he?
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The death of a George B Garvey age 61 was registered in Marylebone in 1925. From http://freebmd.org.uk.
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The death of a George B Garvey age 61 was registered in Marylebone in 1925. From http://freebmd.org.uk.
Thanks for that information. I had no idea that George Garvey died in England. The London "Times" of 4 June 1925 carries a death notice stating that he had died on the previous day.
Mark
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The elder Toler Roberts Garvey was my great grandfather, the younger one and George Bloomfield Garvey were my great uncles. Captain George Garvey RN (my great great grandfather) lived at Thornvale House, between Moneygall and Toomevara. His son, the elder Toler Roberts Garvey, lived at 12 Oxmantown Mall, Birr (then called Parsonstown) until he inherited Thornvale. He had three sons and three daughters: May (who became a nurse, ran a nursing home in London, after WW1 married Captain Gerald Lowry from Belfast - the first officer blinded in WW1, who subsequently became an osteopath, and died at mayfield in Sussex sometime in the 1950s); George Bloomfield, whose daughter Daphne married Commander Henry Ball RN, subsequently of the Commissioners for Irish Lights, and whose grandson, * Ball, retired a few years ago also from the Commissioners for Irish Lights, and who lives in Bray, Co Wicklow; Toler Roberts (junior) who was steward to Lord Ross, and who had two daughters - Enid, who married a Major Porter and had a son and a daugher (Maurice and Pamela), and Inez, who married John de Fraine, a farmer in Sussex (both Enid and Inez died several years ago); Henry William, who was killed in the Boer War; Olive Amy (my grandmother) who married John Edward Minchin (more below), and Helen, who never married and died at quite a young age.
John Edward and Olive Amy Minchin (nee Garvey) lived for a time at Thornvale. They had three children: Sara Amelia Helen (Sarita), b. 4/09/1910, Arthur John, b. 21/03/1912, and Olive Juliet (Judy), b. 17/02/1914 (my mother). The family moved to England in 1921, returned to Thornvale in 1929, and emigrated to Kenya in 1934. Both Arthur and Judy were keen tennis players, participating in tournaments in Roscrea, Nenagh, and in Kenya. Sarita married Walter Crawford (both deceased - Walter in 1990 and Sarita in 1997) and had three sons, *, * and *, who all currently live in South Africa. Arthur married Betty d'Olier (nee Blair), but had no children. Betty died in approximately 1978, and Arthur in 1998. Judy married Captain Thomas Lyle McClelland, and had a son, Robin (me) in *. My father died in 1961, and my mother died 20/05/2012 at the age of 98.
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This might be of interest. A George G Garvey, from Kings County Assistant Land Commissioner was residing in Portstewart NI in 1901 Census. Link here also.www.billmacafee.com/census/1901censusportstewart.xls.
Pete
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Portstewart/Tullymurry_East__Part_of_/1546265/
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http://www.tennisarchives.com
this site tells you a lot about them george born 4.2.1864 Toler Roberts born 11.2.1865
tells you about the tennis matches they played and were they died.
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Joining the conversation late. Thanks for the great insight.
I'm trying to find a birth record for Enid Amy Eyre Garvey for my wife and would appreciate any advice or records.
She is also a descendant as Granddaughter of Enid; Great Granddaughter of Toler Bonnell Roberts Garvey, and daughter of Maurice Garvey Porter. The post by Robin1954 confirmed a few items from our visit to the Garvey/Eyre cemetery plot in Borrisnafarney a few years ago. But also some conflicts with our data. e.g. We're missing a reference to "May Garvey". Been working on this tree on Ancestry.com and happy to share a GED or other file.
Especially enjoy the Tennis Archive data. Thanks
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