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Could any one please help in my search , I am wanting to search for my grandparents, William Patrick Foley, and Guisappina Bambara, they married on the 18/6/1902 in Alexandria Egypt, my Grandmother being of Italian
origin,they had two sons Edward patrick Foley,(my farther)Born on the 19/3/1903,and MichealPatrick Foley Bornin July 1905 in Alexandria Egypt,Edward my farther was also known as Mario Majisti who was a wrestler by Proffesion,(Mario Majisti being his show name,) Guisappina Bambara my grandmother must have passed at some stage in there marriage because William Patrick Foley my Grandfarther married again on the 11/12/1920
being a widower, to a Lady of french decent called Marie La Pupe in Egypt, My farther Edward Patrick Foley,also known as Mario Majisti who married on the 26/3/1935 in the Kensington area of London ,and living in the all saints road area and also the warnington road area of Kensington,at the time of marriage ,he passed away i believe in 1980 aged 77yrs in the Brent area of London, I would appreciate any help regards my search, of the Italian connection,what Guisappina passed with and when,any photo's would be wonderful of Mario (Edward Patrick Foley)or his family, i am just a begginer in this search ,and any information on the above would be gratefuly appreciated,many thanks for reading my message,
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Hi,,Welcome to Rootschat ;)
Although William was married in Egypt,,it appears he must have been a British citizen,as his marriage reference appears in the GRO Consular marriages index.With this reference,you could order the marriage certificate,,,this should provide both fathers names and occupations.
William Patrick Foley
Consulate Alexandria
Country Egypt
Year 1901-1905
Volume 11
page 510
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Thank you so much for your reply, I do have the marriage certificate,its the period they lived in Alexandria and when William Patrick foley Returned to the uk, and what Guisappina passed with and when,and the Italian connection of my Grandmother , were was she from , William patrick foley sounds like an Irish name , however i am not sure if he was irish or not, so many thanks for youe help i am so grateful,
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what is the info on the marriage cert? what are the fathers names and occupations? ::)
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thank you again for your reply,the names on the marriage Certificate Number 60,are William Patrick Foley(British subject) age 23 years, and Guisappina Bambara, (Italian subject)age15 3/4 married in the British consulate, William is down as a Clerk,no occupation for guisappina,farthers name is Michael Patrick Foley, occupation storekeeper, and Guisappinas's farther was called Antonio Bambara, and is down as being a Tailor,
the certificate is very faint but readable, but the marriage took place in the presence of, Looks like Giovania Bambara, and S, Taylor,
thank you so much for your Help and interest i am so grateful,
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Hi ,
regards my fist post (above) in search of my family in Alexandria Egypt,of which up now i am sadly no furher in
my search,
I have been informed that Egytian sources have yet to hit the ancestry sites as yet,but perhaps in the future they may do,
also i am told that Italian births are recorded under the name of the town or commune so the birth place of the Italian sidecan not be found not knowing were Guisappina was born in Italy ,or her farther ( my Grandfarther Antonio Bambara,)
Also no record in the UK incoming passenger list 1878-1960 of any return to the UK,
could i take this information as correct of what i have been told , and if so could any one please advise me as to what i could do next to hopefuly find anything further ,example is there a history site who would have any records of my family, (Italian side)
also i believe William Patrick Foley was Irish and any records of his Return to the UK, along wth his son Edward( my farther ),
any help or advice would be greatly appreciated , Many thanks ,
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Could anyone please help , I am searching for any information, regards my Grandparents William Patrick Foley,
and Giusappina Bambara,Italian Subject,who both married on the 18/6/1902 in Alexandria Egypt, they had a son Edward Patrick Foley (my farther)born on the 19/3/1903 in Egypt, my Grandmother Giusappina must have passed away between 1902 and 1920, because my Grandfarther William Patrick Foley married again on the 11/12/1920 in Alexandria Egypt to a lady called Marie La Pupe or Pope,(French subject) my farther Edward Patrick Foley, was also kown as Mario Majisti who's occupation was a wrestler Mario Majisti being his show name, He Married on the 26/3/1935 in the district of Kensington London to a lady called Eleanor Mabel Humbley,I beleive Edward (Mario)passed away in the year 1980 aged 77 years tge Registration district of Brent Greater London, could any one know of Edward Patrick Foley , (Mario Majisti)or indeed any information
Regards my search would be greatly appreciated,the problem i find is the Italian side of my Grandmother , also the Alexandria Egypt search regards the Passage travelling to Egypt and the Return from Egypt to the Uk, was my Grandmother ever laid to rest in Egypt or back in Italy,how i would love to know,
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First question that comes to mind- what was William Patrick Foley, and your grandmother for that matter, doing in Eqypt? was he in the military? if so, have you tried searching those records?
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Hi aghadowey
I only know that William Patrick Foley worked as a clerk in Alexandria,and that his farther MIchael worked as a
storekeeper, when he arrived in Egypt i do not know or when he left the country , i would think after 1920
thank you so much for your help and advice ,
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Hi
I have just come across this post. I believe we may have a connection. My great grandmother Emily Foley may be the sister of William Foley. Emily was born in Alexandria Egypt (as was all my family). There was also a brother Victor (my father was named after him) and their mother Hortense Zammit. Emily Foley married Anthony Caruana and their only child John Caruana was my grandfather.
Michael Patrick Foley was born in 1845 in St James Jamaica (it seems the family moved around as there was a brother Maurice born in St Johns Canada and a sister Elizabeth born in Portsmouth UK). Michael Patrick Foley's father was Maurice Foley and mother was Anna Schumacher. Is there a connection?
Carol
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Hi Carol,
Welcome to RootsChat.
I am very sorry but the email address we had for bonron is no longer working :'(, I have done a search and have been lucky enough to find a postal address. I will send a letter to Bonron today to let him know of your reply I expect it will take a few days for him to receive and reply as it is "snail mail"
Regards
Sarah
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Yeay just heard back from bonron :D Carol
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Hi Carol , got your details from Sarah :D well i have not been on here for almost three years and then nice surprise reading of your search , well there may be a possible connection , my grand farther was called William Patrick Foley, but he married a girl called Guisappina Bambara Italian girl who must have passed away before the year 1920 because my grand farther married again in Dec of that year to a french lady called Marie La Pupe in Egypt, and yes i believe my grand father's Father was called Micheal , my father was called Edward Foley also known a Mario Majisti who was a wrestler , he had Italian parents on his mothers side and Irish parents on his fathers side, he also had a brother called Micheal ,i do have other details like M/C and D/C and also B/C,if you still feel you would like to know more then please do mot hesitate, bye for now ,
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Hello, It is lovely to hear from you. I have so little information on the Foley family, so anything you have anything, especially Michael, Edward's brother, and William's siblings, I would appreciate. If I locate any other information, I will gladly share it with you.
Carol
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Hi Carol nice to hear from you,well , i will pass on to you some of the info i have then we should have some idea ifthere is a connection , the marriage certificate of William Patrick Foley who was Married in Alexandria Egypt on the 18th of June 1902 ,to my grandmother Giuseppina Bambaza or Bambara William was 23 yrs old, Williams profession is down as clerk is Fathers name is Michael Patrick Foley and he was a store keeper ,Giusappina Father was called Antonio Bambaza and he was a Tailor ,and the register is signed i can only assme by Giusappinas Mother who is called Giovannina Bambaza, could i point out William also called himself Wilfred also for what ever reason ,
i do hope there is some help in the info i have passed on to you see how you go with this , and if you compare the other posts i have posted then you may have some idea if there is a possible connection,
Best wishes and good Luck
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Thank you. I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Carol
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I am the grand-daughter of 'Bonron's' aunt. She is 91 and still alive - the only one of Bonron's father's siblings. I want to see if I can get in contact with him - can you please help me?
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Welcome to Rootschat, Keleb.
You will need to remove the aunt's name, as Rootschat prohibited the naming of those living. Click on the "modify" button to do so.
After you make 2 more posts you can make contact with members using the personal message system.
Jamjar
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Hi Keleb,
Bonron has been notified of your reply, hope to see them soon ;)
Regards
Sarah
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Hello Bonron.
Lovely to receive your reply.
I'm not sure if you looked at carols ancestory tree or not to confirm but this would show enough evidence for you. I too have a tree much the same showing William Patrick foley as my grandmothers father who was born in Alexandria Egypt. My grandmothers mother was Maria teuma, she was his third wife. Your grandmother guiseppina was his first wife who gave birth to both your father and his brother (your uncle) in1903 and 1905. He then remarried Lucy (Lucia) whom he had a son with, Victor. She passed away two years later in an accident and he then married again to Maria teuma where they had one son and three daughters. He then passed away at the age of 43. All children have passed now except my grandmother who was their third born, she is almost 91. Your father Mario the magnificent was a well known wrestler, he also had fingers missing and spent some time in prison as I have heard. My grandmother never knew of William Patrick foley first wife (your grandmother) we assume he kept this from his third wife for some reason. There is also rumour that he perhaps told people he was a captain when in actual fact he was only a clerk on the ship. However, old records such as the ones you find, will always have contradicting details such as name spellings and employment/professions as these change (as all of ours do over the course of our lives) and they also aren't always truthful when stating these facts during census. Your father was 100% my grandmothers half brother. I have a photo of your grandfather if you would like me to show you and I can also get you in contact with my grandmother if you wish.
Thanks
Kelley
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Hi Kelly, thank you so much for your prompt reply, yes i have read carols posts, (are you connected)well i do have quite a few B/M/D certificates of Mario who married in Kensington in 1935, and Mario's father William is on the marriage Certificate as occupation police inspector, sadly Mario passed away in 1980 aged 77yrs, buried at Carpenders park Cemetery London of which i have also the Certificate of his passing,regards William Foley he married again in Dec 1920 to a French lady called Marie La Pupe or Pape difficult to make out on the Marriage Certificate,but you say he married Lucy (Lucia) sounds Italian do not think that is correct , what happened to her i wonder,, well i have got other items of info but was not aware of Victor and others you speak of, i have a pic of Mario and also one of when he was a young boy of 16 yrs i believe joining the ship as a boy,,,,this is so very strange but yes please i would love a photo of my Grandfather,, we must follow this through and see were this takes us , there is just too much to say at this stage , however what you have spoke of is interesting , i do hope to speak again soon , until then take Regards Ron
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Ok, so....I am not sure where la pupe comes from with my great grandmother Maria. She was born in Egypt of maltese decent and her maiden name was actually Teuma. The document you are reading may look like la pupe but actually be Teuma with unclear handwriting? This I do not know as I have not seen this document. However, I do have her down also in my tree as La pupe in brackets after Teuma as a suggested name she used too..
It is probably evident that your father knew nothing about his half siblings as it does seem no one knew of your father and uncle so I would say William foley kept this to himself perhaps? We don't know really do we? Lucy (Lucia) was the second wife he had after Guiseppina but it was brief as I said she passed in an accident but did also produce a son (victor). This was around 1917 and she passed in 1919.
My father is 66 years old and he would be your cousin. It would be really wonderful for you to connect with him! You also have many more cousins living in both England and Australia. And as I said, one remaining aunt who didn't know your father and uncle existed as either Maria or William did not tell them. He passed away from alcoholism (also drinking cleaning spirits) when my grandmother was only 4 years old.
I have attached a picture of your grandfather William Patrick Foley.
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Hello all, well here i am back again continuing my search for information regards my Father, Mario Majisti was is show name his birth name was Edward Patrick Foley who was a well known wrestler in the 30s & 40s, i am also interested in a male called M F who was also Mario's son who married a girl called A M B, Michael lived at Dorchester Court Brent and married on the 1960's at Willsden Register office in the county of Middlesex, and Mario was present at the wedding, i know M and a both both met each other were they both worked at the Cardboard works (i think it says on the M/C) and both were Machine operators they had a child born at the Central Middlesex Hospital Park Royal on the 1960s called A,M who was born in Alexandria Egypt in the year 1903 to Italian Mother Giusappina Bambaza and is father was called William Patrick Foley,Mario passed away on the 15th May 1980 aged 77 in the Genaral Hospital Harlesden Road Willsden NW10, any information regards the above be it of Mario or of Michael would be greatly appreciated , Thank you,
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Rootschat isn't a forum for tracing living people and we aren't allowed to post detail of anyone who might still be alive. Going from the dates in your last post it's possible that Mario's brother, sister-in-law and niece could still be living so you'll probably need to edit that post. Just click on 'modify', change the details and then save.
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Link to another thread to save duplication of effort
topics have now been merged
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Bonron
I think there's a fair chance that your father may have fathered another prior to a short spell at his (then) majesty's pleasure. That would have been in West London in 1928/9. As that person is living I won't go into detail here but the mother's maiden name was Steed. Does that chime with your research or knowledge?
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Kelley
You seem to have details of Giuseppina Bambara as the first wife of William (Wilfred) Patrick Foley. Do you have any information of what happened to her? In some records there is a similarly located Giuseppina (Josephine) Bambara (1885-1952) who married Dessman but all the timings overlap. It seems too coincidental to have two people of the same name of Italian extraction and similar birthdates living in Alexandria, Egypt.
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Bonron
I've done more research and the marriage you think happened in 1935 between Edward Patrick Foley and Eleanor Mabel Humbley was not that of Mario. The Foley in that marriage was born in 1897 in Silvertown Essex. This maybe why the father's occupation is stated as police inspector rather than Clerk/Ship's Clerk as you know it to be. The more likely marriage was in 1944 in Cairo to a name I have but won't state on the offchance she's living.
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Dear Clint,
Well this is so confuseing, you say the marriage in 1935 , is not that of Mario,can i just say the marriage certificate i have of 1935, clearly states the marriage took place at kensington register office of march 1935,which also gives the profession of Mario as a wrestler and a boxer as indeed he was,along with the fathers names and addresses, and Edward Patrick Foley's father 's profession as police inspector
were did you get your information that this is incorrect
Ron
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Hi there, my name is Angela, and Edward Patrick Foley was my maternal grandfather, whom I met many times growing up in Willesden. My Mum, was his 2nd daughter, she sadly passed aged 83 in 2018. Yes my grandfather was a wrestler, and born in Alexandria, Egyot. This is definitely correct, him and my Nan lived in Willesden High Road Brent for awhile. I am very interested in any news . Thanking you. Wishing you A very Merry Christmas 🎅