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Title: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 26 January 12 21:48 GMT (UK)
From the Records of the Registrar General for Scotland, 1855-1939, a fascinating insight into the history of civil registration in Scotland from its beginning in 1855 until the Second World War.

www.gla.ac.uk/departments/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Lodger on Friday 27 January 12 10:21 GMT (UK)
Excellent link Monica, thanks.
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Tiffy10 on Thursday 02 February 12 17:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you Monica -- a useful link.
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 03 February 12 21:18 GMT (UK)
Link provided by Brian (yokerbrian). Makes good reading!

Monica  :)
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 04 February 12 11:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Monica & Brian!


Skoosh.
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: genjen on Saturday 04 February 12 11:57 GMT (UK)
Yet another diversion to keep me away from the housework.

Thanks Monica & Brian.

Jen
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Stymied on Tuesday 24 April 12 11:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for this link as it's a background source that I've somehow missed.
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Hibee on Tuesday 24 April 12 12:59 BST (UK)
Thanks, Monica.  I'll post that in Another Place, if I may.

Hibee
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: nkbauer on Tuesday 24 April 12 13:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link Monica and Brian. This link confirms why I am having so much difficulty tracing people in Argyllshire.
Nan
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 14 May 13 17:17 BST (UK)
From Maureen, on this post www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,645844.msg4934533.html#msg4934533

To all who tried to help.
All the information on marriage regular and irregular is contained on a podcast from Glasgow University at
http://workingclassmarriage.gla.ac.uk/the-team/
It contains an amazing amount of information on the legality of marriages mainly in Scotland from the 17th century up until 1939 but also contrasts the differences in England and other parts of Europe.
The podcast is the basis of an article on irregular marriages soon to be published in 'The Journal of Social History'

Maureen
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Brosie on Monday 20 May 13 23:24 BST (UK)
One of my ancestor's, has his christian and surname changed on his 1857 Scottish birth certificate, on the 23 July he has the same name as his named father, lo and behold on the 15th of September all change he is a different person. Not fair!
                                                          Brosie.   
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Mariea Christoforou on Sunday 13 January 19 22:26 GMT (UK)
Hello Monica,
I am looking for information about a Scottish family immigrating to Australia on the ship Waverley in 1848. Charles Leiper (Leaper) his wife Elizabeth and daughters Mary and Janet. They were from Kilbarton Renfrewshire.
Many thanks
Mariea
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 13 January 19 22:30 GMT (UK)
Kilbarchan I think! Mariea. ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Mariea Christoforou on Sunday 13 January 19 23:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you Skoosh,
Can you tell me anything about Charles Leiper (he may have died on the voyage) and his wife Elizabeth born Irvine a laundress from  Nelston Scotland and their two daughters Mary and Janet sailing on the Waverley to Australia in 1848?
Mariea
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 13 January 19 23:56 GMT (UK)
Mairiea, it would be better if you began a new topic with a new title. There is a sub-board for Renfrewshire on the Scotland board.
When you've done that, you can either delete your post on here or edit it or add an extra post to say you've started a new thread for your enquiry. You have 24 hours after posting to change or delete a post.
This thread is just to draw attention to a resource about civil registration in Scotland. It's not for answering enquiries.
Hope this helps.  :)
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Mariea Christoforou on Monday 14 January 19 00:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you Maiden Stone. I'll have a look at the Renfrewshire board and I will try a new thread.I'm fairly new at this so thank you for your help.
Mariea
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: majm on Monday 14 January 19 04:52 GMT (UK)
Hello Monica,
I am looking for information about a Scottish family immigrating to Australia on the ship Waverley in 1848. Charles Leiper (Leaper) his wife Elizabeth and daughters Mary and Janet. They were from Kilbarton Renfrewshire.
Many thanks
Mariea

Hi there,

A new thread is definitely the way to go ... and there's a new thread on the Australia Board with info about a Janet LEIPER's marriage to a Samuel BEAMAN.   

In the meanwhile,  here is a live link to the digitised passenger link for that voyage of the ship Waverley, arriving Sydney, New South Wales in December 1848.    http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4786/Waverley_%2020%20Dec%201848/4_478600155.jpg&No=1

Scroll through to page 4.
It clearly shows under the heading "Widows on Embarkation" under the surname LEIPER:
Elizabeth aged 34  (JM notes that her native place is hard to decipher, but does not seem to be same locality as Mary or Janet, although all three seem to be from Renfrewshire, Presbyterians and can Read and Write).
Mary aged 17
Janet aged 15

I have already posted some information about a Janet LEIPER on Mariea's thread on the Australia Board.  That Janet's death registration is indexed at NSW BDM as Janet BEAMAN, with parents as Richard and Elizabeth.  (#3850/1902)  ... it is of course possible that the informant mis-understood the given name for that Janet's father  (Charles v Richard) ...  :)

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806480.0

JM

Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: GordonFindlay on Friday 20 August 21 03:46 BST (UK)
From the Records of the Registrar General for Scotland, 1855-1939, a fascinating insight into the history of civil registration in Scotland from its beginning in 1855 until the Second World War.

www.gla.ac.uk/departments/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/

Very much to my regret - I refer people to this all the time - it is no longer on-line at gla.ac.uk. The best I have so far managed to find is the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.

It had the advantages of authority, clarity and was most helpful in showing how Scotland is neither England nor America.

Does anyone know of a current mirror? If there isn't one I shall investigate the possibility of hosting one myself, but that positively "reeks of effort" as a friend says.

Slainte
Gordon
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 20 August 21 14:09 BST (UK)
That would be such a shame if the link is permanently lost, Gordon  :-\

I have just emailed the University's webteam to check what what happened and if it can be accessed elsewhere. Will update here on any response.

Monica
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: GordonFindlay on Sunday 22 August 21 05:25 BST (UK)
It's turned up, at a different URL:

https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/historymedicine/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/ (https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/historymedicine/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/)

Slainte
Gordon
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 22 August 21 15:15 BST (UK)
Thanks for the update, Gordon  :) Great that there is a new link for it on Glasgow University's site.

Monica
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 22 August 21 16:01 BST (UK)
Very strange as I've just clicked on the original link and it comes up just as before.

Gadget
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: DonM on Sunday 22 August 21 17:30 BST (UK)
Magic
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 22 August 21 18:50 BST (UK)
 ;D Good magic, Don!

Monica
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 24 August 21 16:39 BST (UK)
Nice message back from the email to the webteam at Glasgow Uni:

Thanks for getting in touch and sorry for the delay replying.  I got in touch with the people who manage this section of the website and they agreed that this resource should still be live.  As a result I have moved it to a new location at https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/projects/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/ and arranged for a re-write to be set up so that anyone visiting the old link will be redirected to the new one.

Hopefully this is the result you were looking for, thanks again for flagging this up to us.


Always great when people respond like this  :)

Monica
Title: Re: The Scottish Way of Birth and Death...
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 23 February 24 21:34 GMT (UK)
From the Records of the Registrar General for Scotland, 1855-1939, a fascinating insight into the history of civil registration in Scotland from its beginning in 1855 until the Second World War.

www.gla.ac.uk/departments/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/

Very much to my regret - I refer people to this all the time - it is no longer on-line at gla.ac.uk. The best I have so far managed to find is the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.

It had the advantages of authority, clarity and was most helpful in showing how Scotland is neither England nor America.

Does anyone know of a current mirror? If there isn't one I shall investigate the possibility of hosting one myself, but that positively "reeks of effort" as a friend says.

Slainte
Gordon
Just for the record, this useful resource is back up and running and accessible by clicking on the original link[/b], but it could have been there for some time as I haven't tried to look at it for a long time.