England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: prudhoe on Saturday 28 January 12 15:38 GMT (UK)

Title: Graham Chopwell
Post by: prudhoe on Saturday 28 January 12 15:38 GMT (UK)
Researching Graham Family of Chopwell,

Edward Graham b 1849  m Jane Robson 1877
Margaret Jane b 1878   m George Gillender 1903
John George b 1880
Mary Hannah b 1883
Sarah Ann b 1885         m John Smith 1918 m George Grigg 1939 m       William Brown 1949
Selina b 1887                m  Thomas  Elliott 1907
Walter b 1891
Thomas Edward b 1892 m Elizabeth Coulson 1918
Charles b 1895              m Alice ?

Looking for any descendants to swop information.
Post by: hexhamlad on Thursday 23 January 14 12:25 GMT (UK)
Still searching for information on the Graham family. Apart from Chopwell, they previously lived at Victoria Garesfield and Medomsley.
Post by: hexhamlad on Saturday 21 November 20 14:01 GMT (UK)
Still on the look out for any information on this family particularly before 1800 when they were resident in Barrasford, Chollerton parish, Northumberland.
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 21 November 20 15:01 GMT (UK)
I do hate to see an unanswered post, but I have looked each time you have posted and am unsure what it is you want to know.

post 1 - you were looking for descendants so that is a very narrow field and it looks like there are none who frequent RC

The other two posts still haven't received any replies -  possibly because there is no detail of what it is you want to know.

It may be more productive if you can start with a particular query about one of these people, rather than an entire family.  Tell us what you know and what it is that you are still looking for.
That way we have a starting point and don't need to duplicate research you have already done.

Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 21 November 20 17:23 GMT (UK)
Trees on Ancestry say Edward Graham b.1849 was the son of a John Graham and Jane Hopper married 1846.   None of the submitters of the trees appear to have obtained a copy of the marriage certificate (full details aren't available online) to confirm the name of John's father and John himself states different birthplaces and ages on the census.   There are a couple of John's baptised at Chollerton 1816 and 1823 who's parents abode is given as Barrisford but without confirmation from marriage certificate how can you tell which one (if either) is possibly him?

Post by: hexhamlad on Saturday 21 November 20 18:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Annette,  John Graham ( b 1816 ) was the Son of William & Isabella Graham , William was a Husbandsman living at Barrasford Fell which is in the Parish of Chollerton. He married first Elizabeth Routledge at Allendale 13/08/1840, she died, 1 Son Matthew b 1844 1844, and then Jane Hopper ( b ) in 1846, 7 children including my G/Grandfather Edward b 1849, Edward m Jane Robson b 1854, 8 children including my G/mother, Sarah Ann Graham. It is the descendants of her siblings that I am attempting to trace.
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 21 November 20 19:17 GMT (UK)
NB any link to Family Search - you need to be signed in to FS to see the page, an account is free

Selina b 1887                m  Thomas  Elliott 1907

No "Selina" Graham, MMN Robson coming up in the births 1887 +/- 2 years anywhere in England & Wales
Though there is a Lena Graham mmn Robson, Q2 1886 Lanchester MMN Robson, which looks
quite likely

and the only marriage coming up in FreeBMD for this name combination was not in 1907
Q2 1905 Gateshead
Thomas Henry Elliott  and Selina Graham on the same page

possible 1911 census

You'd need to check the image to see if the no of years married matches with the register entry year, but I think it will.

Thomas Edward Elliott , Q2 1907 Gateshead MMN Graham
Sarah Annie Elliott Q4 1909 Lanchester MMN Graham

can’t post details but if you check the 1939 register you should be able to find them

Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 21 November 20 21:31 GMT (UK)
Margaret Jane b 1878   m George Gillender 1903
Margaret Jane Graham Q3 1877 Lanchester MMN Robson

Free BMD
Q1 1903 Gateshead
Margaret Jane Graham and George Gillender on same page

No Gillender births with MMN of Graham in England & Wales, so this couple do not seem to have had any children,

1911 census

image ‘should’ confirm they had been married for 8 years and had no children in that time

EDIT  added
Possible deaths

Newcastle Evening Chronicle
31 July 1941, page 7, col 5

GILLENDER Victoria Garesfield, 17 View Terrace, 30th inst., Margaret Jane, aged 64 years, beloved wife of George Gillender. Interment St Patrick’s Saturday,  4 p.m. Friends please meet at church.

Newcastle Evening Chronicle
25 March 1942 page 7 col 5

GILLENDER   20 Dene Bank Allendale Cottages, 24th. George, husband of late Margaret. Friends meet at St Patrick’s, Spen. Thurs 3 o’clock. Private.

Burials index for St Patrick's High Spen

Post by: hexhamlad on Sunday 22 November 20 12:57 GMT (UK)
Thank You, That looks to be correct, Selina was always known to the family as Lena evidently, the family gravitated to Victoria Garesfield and then to Chopwell, I recall as a very small, 5 year old, visiting relatives at Allendale Cottages but cannot recall who it was, it will all come together eventually but it is a bit like a jigsaw with scattered pieces, again, Thank You very much for your kind assistance.
Title: Re: Graham Chopwell
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 22 November 20 15:30 GMT (UK)
One more for you, do bear in mind that
a) you need to check this out carefully, I believe its right, but its up to you to check and verify it. I am only offering these as 'possibles' for you to check out.

b) Rootschat policy is that we are not allowed to discuss or post about anyone who may still be alive, so I have just left initials in a couple of the newspaper notices if I think there is a possibility the person may still be alive.

Thomas Edward b 1892 m Elizabeth Coulson 1918

GRO Births Q2 1891 Gateshead
Thomas Edward Graham MMN Robson

FreeBMD marriages
Q2 1918 Gateshead Thomas E Graham  Elizabeth Coulson

FreeBMD Deaths
Q1 1976, Durham Northern
Thomas Edward Graham d.o.b. 07 June 1891

Given the above d.o.b. its easy to find them on the 1939 register and DO check the register image (always check an image) as names are not always transcribed correctly.

Newcastle Evening Chronicle 01 March 1976
page 2, col 3

GRAHAM  Rowlands Gill. 11 Whinfield Terrace, Highfield (late of Chopwell), on Feb 26 aged 84 years. Thomas Edward, beloved husband of the late Elizabeth (nee Coulson). Sadly missed by his son S_ his grandsons, his sister in law Mrs E Armstrong, and all their families. Friends please meet for service at Mounsett Crematorium, Dipton, on Wednesday at 2.30 p.m. Private afterwards.

Births Q2 1920, Gateshead
Conny Graham, MMN Coulson

Marriages Q4 1944 Durham NW
Conny Graham and John Foreman  Broderick

Deaths Q4 1974 Gateshead
Conny Broderick d.o.b. 08 Apr 1920

Newcastle Evening Chronicle 21 Nov 1974
page 2 col 1
BRODERICK Highfield 11 Whinfield Terrace, on Nov 19, aged 54 years. Connie (nee Graham) beloved wife of the late John Foreman and dear mother of D_ and T_ and dear daughter of Thomas Edward and dear sister of S_. Cremation at Mounsett, Friday. Friends and relatives please meet for service at crematorium, 3 p.m. Please send flowers to the Co-op Chapel of Rest, Front Street, Stanley (later to be sent to Shotley Bridge Hospital)

Probate calendar 1975
BRODERICK Conny of 11 Whinfield Terr Rowlands Gill Tyne and Wear died 19 Nov 1974 Administration Newcastle upon Tyne 11 April £3477
NB Administration,  therefore no will, but a copy of the Grant which will tell you who was granted Admin (hopefully a relative) will be available from  for £1.50 (and perhaps a bit of a wait)

Deaths Q4 1962 West Hartlepool
John F Broderick age 48

Probate Calendar 1963
BRODERICK John Foreman of 11 Whinfield Terrace Highfield Rowlands Gill county Durham died 15 December 1962 at the General Hospital West Hartlepool Adminsitration Newcastle upon Tyne 5 March to Conny Broderick widow Effects £3084 19s

Thomas Edward and Elizabeth Coulson did have another child (initial S as in the newspaper notices)
If you search Free BMD and look for Graham births, specify MMN of Coulson and a district of Gateshead 1920-1930, the registration is easily spotted. So far I have been unable to find a definite record of this one's death so won't post the name.

Hopefully, seeing where I searched and for what will help you to look for the others. I've run out of time today to do more.

If you get stuck and need help with specifics, post back and we'll help if we can.

Title: Re: Graham Chopwell
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 22 November 20 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hello hexhamlad! I have been following this query with some interest. On a collateral line, I have a number of Gillender/Gillinder people who were from the Whickham/Ryton area. I don't know if you are interested in pursuing your collateral Gillender line, but mine are all in the mid 1850 time frame thus far. Please let me know if you are interested. Sincerely, patrexjax