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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Z00tegem on Sunday 29 January 12 15:22 GMT (UK)
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In August 1914 Grassington School posed for the School Photograph and the Headmistress at the time, Mrs Chapman wrote the names of most of the pupils underneath and there are so many local names that one instantly recognises. Three of the photograph's have no name & one has a name crossed out. Some of the pictures correspond to other studio photographs I have of the time taken By Grimshawe brothers of Grassington.
Does anyone recognize the children with the names missing?
Are there any relatives, of the pupils who read this forum, who would like to provide me with some background information about the children of Grassington School from 1914.
The size of the photograph, on two pages, means that it has to be scanned in 4 pieces. I will post each part as a separate post to make responses more manageable.
The first Photograph has Dorothy & Margaret Easterby as a center piece & contains the missing/crossed out pictures.
Names are Mrs Chapman, Jos Cousins (crossed out), Allan Stephenson, Hilda Pattinson, Geo. Benson, Evelyn Blagden, Geo. Easterby, Cyril Walmsley, UNKNOWN, H Griffin, Bertie Hill, Hannah Stubbs, Mary Chapman, Marjory Blagden, Florie Nichols, Edna Darwin, UNKNOWN, UNKNOWN, Charlie Smith, Reggie Richmond & Mary Ibbotson. Mary Bownas, Dora Ibbotson, Kathleen Beckwith, H. Ibbotson & Ed. S Percival also appear on the next post as I have had to crop scans to fit in with upload sizes.
Thanking you in advance.
Ben
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So many local names & so many hits on the four posts.
Does nobody have any information on the families from Grassington?
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I'll bet the Local Studies library at Grassington, if there is one, or Skipton or wherever is nearest would love to have copies of those pics you have.
charlotte
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http://www.cpgw.org.uk/advSearch.cfm
Obviously the children wont appear in the above record however its possible some of family members do....Theres a number of men from local Grassington area in the records
Ady :)
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If there is a Grassington FHS I'll bet they'd know about those kids' families and descendants.
There is a Dales FHS, or was ten years ago.
charlotte
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Hi again Charlotte.
There is Grassington Museum & what is now the Wharfedale History Society which covers the Dales but looking at the site it's members seem to be interested in the lower Wharfedale area ,but do hold meetings in Threshfield (they use to be in Grassington). Skipton Library also has an archive of material.
I like to share what I have, especially with family members who may not have pictures of their ancestors, but I have found that once you pass the pictures on you loose control of the information that comes in and you are relying on them to pass on information. What I try & do is put posts on other web sites to say where I have posted the material. So I put a post on the Grassington Web site to say where the pictures are but you forget just how many sites seek the same material & I had forgotten the WHS so will drop them a line. I also posted a request in Grassington for 'The Ridge' but no response yet. My gut feeling is that it would be on Raines Lane which was just below where I lived in Raines Meadows.
Thank's for the prompts it keeps the grey matter moving.
Ben
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Hi Ady,
Thanks for the interest and link. When they were setting up the site I provided some material for them but like I have just replied to Charlotte I had forgotten the site as it does not seem as active as it was but I will revisit it & see what I can find.
Thanks again
Ben
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Ben, It was Wharfedale HS that I was thinking about ::)
charlotte
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Here's a pic of The Ridge in Grassington.
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Yep I was right it is Raines Lane.
That use to be my doctor's house before he retired. It was beautiful inside.
I walked past it everyday on the way to the river to walk the dog.
On Google street view you can almost make out it's name over the doorway.
Amazing.
Ben
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Yes, it was/is a lovely house inside and out, and very comfortable.
Funny isn't it that we both know it ;D
charlotte
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Hi Charlotte,
Small world.
I do not know if you can see from the photograph but it shows the start of building on 'The Ridge'
If you would like a higher res scan you will need to let me know how to do it as its not a good idea to post email addresses on public sites.
Ben
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Ben, You may be able to answer a question that has had me wondering for years. When was The Ridge built, even approximately?
Another question. Wasn't there a Wilsons Arms Hotel in Grassngton in 1950s?
charlotte
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Hi Charlotte, I can not say with any certainty & this card is not dated so you will have to guess from the clues on the picture.
I will try & find out for you as I will be in Grassington tomorrow visiting my daughter.
As far as I know there has been a Wilson's Arms in Grassington since the coming of the railway in 1902. It is in actually in Threshfield and is now a retirement home. There is a postcard for sale, on ebay at present, which probably shows the Wilson Arms in the 50's.
Ben
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Thanks Ben.
May I ask another question please?
As one drives into G.market square,up the incline on the left hand side was a smallish pub [I think it was a pub or cafe]. It was also a B&B with 2 bedrooms upstairs. Maybe it was number 7 or 9.
This was so in 1986. Is it still there and functioning?
charlotte
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Hi Charlotte,
Sorry but there was nobody in when I tried to call at The Ridge so could not ask the question about it's date. I will keep enquiring though.
The pub on the left hand side of the square is the Devonshire Arms. I would have imagined it had more than 2 bedrooms though. Just off the square is the Forresters & The Black Horse.
On the right of the square is Grassington House. Grassington is now awash with B&B's & holiday cottages.
Ben
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Thank yoi very much, Ben, for troubling yourself and calling at The Ridge. I wish I could do that :(
Perhaps that B&B we stayed at was a cafe, not a pub. It was small with a lovely open fire downstairs. Altogether delightful.
charlotte
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When I get home at the weekend I will post a photograph of that side of the square & then you can tell me which one it is.
If it was just back from the square, top left, it could have been Ashfield House. We shall see.
Ben
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Hi Charlotte,
Here is a modern postcard of that side of the square. Published in the early 1990's it shows the buildings, whose use might have changed, but are as they have always been.
I have older postcards showing the same view but this is the nearest I have to the date you are talking about.
The next building up would be the Devonshire Arms & then you are off the square.
Ben
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Thanks Ben ;D The building I am thinking about was way down the square, on that same side as in the pic but close to out of sight.
Somehow I have stuck in my memory that it just called itself 7 or 9.
It's a lovely little village-seeing the pic gives me itchy feet ;D
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Hi Charlotte,
This is the best shot I have of the bottom of the square. It would have been taken about 1947 ish.
The buildings are still the same.
Does it ring any bells?
Ben
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Yes, Ben ;D ;D It's probably the place with the door outside which the bunch of people are standing, including the man with the bike ;D ;D
It was a super B&B... Two bedrooms only, both upstairs, an open fire downstairs where we ate.
Thank you ;D ;D ;D
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Hi Charlotte,
Here is a photograph of Church House, as it is now known, that I found on Grassington Web.
My eldest daughter went to nursery school there before going to Grassington Primary School.
It was once the home of Chapman's who ran the local transport up & down the dales from the days of coach & horses.
Ben
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It loooks like the place in which we stayed in 1986, but from what you say about your daughter being there seems to rule it out.
It is a lovely old building, and in such a fine square- I'm rather partial to Grassington ;D
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She was there about 1980 & as far as I know it has been the hands of Linton Church since then.
Maybe you stayed in the house to the right which has a front door looking onto Church House.
Looks like you need a return visit!
Ben
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I found this site whilst I was searching for information on Raines Lane, and wondered if anyone could help me date the house at the far end, called Far Meadows? My grandparents lived there in the 1940's and I understand it was 'old' then. I spent at least one holiday a year in Grassington between the 1950's and the 1970's and some of the family names in the photos are familiar - Harker / Pattinson / Jaques etc. I attended the village school briefly in the mid '50's.
Was the Doctor who lived in The Ridge called Digby? Not sure if that was his Christian or surname.
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Hi, my grandmother was Dora Chapman. Her grandfather was Kit Chapman who ran the bus service in Grassington. My grandmother's brother was Arthur Chapman who lived in Raines Lane with his wife Beatrice. I have some old pictures of the family outside Church House on a vehicle. Will post them once I've worked out how to do it! If you're interested that is? :)
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Thanks for the replies. I certainly remember the Grassington bus from Skipton - I was invariably dropped off between the quarry and the river as I was a very bad traveller, and rarely made it as far as the bus station! My Grandparents were called Nauwelaers and had moved to Grassington from Bradford in the '30's or '40's. They had to leave Far Meadows when my Grandfather died around 1950 and the family then moved to Town Head. The other surname I remember from my brief time at the school was Patrick - one of the boys broke my teddy bear - mazing what you remember :-[. Craven
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Me again,
I am sorry I missed the post on Grassington School Part 1. I have some pictures of Kit Chapman outside Church house taken from glass slides & I have a couple of photographs, of his vehicles, taken at various places in the Dales. I would love to see any photographs you have & share information about a very important Dales Family.
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Hi Craven,
I think the boy you remember was Hedley Patrick, the son of Wilf Patrick who ran a very large building firm. They had a large house on the corner of Raines Lane & Station Road & their yard/shop was at the top of Station Road.
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Hi just wanted to say l have found all the talk and pics of Grassington School very interesting.
My maternal grand mother worked in the sanatorium in the school. This was school term 1949 a long time after the period that was being discussed. When l contacted the school l was told they only held employee records of teachers. ???
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Hi Murrell, It's a long time since I posted this. Grassington School would not have had a sanatorium. However Bradford Corporation ran a Special School in the next village of Linton which had a medical side to it. Between Grassington & Hebden was a Sanatorium, which I think was run by Leeds Health Authority which might be what you are talking about. Let me know which you think it might be & I will see if I have any information for you.
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Hello there really sorry it's Giggleswicks school Santorini l was referring to.
Got myself mixed there.
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Hi, No problem. If you are on Facebook then the 'Back in Settle' is an interesting group with lots of stuff from the Giggleswick area.
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Hi just wanted to say l have found all the talk and pics of Grassington School very interesting.
My maternal grand mother worked in the sanatorium in the school. This was school term 1949 a long time after the period that was being discussed. When l contacted the school l was told they only held employee records of teachers. ???
There was a sanatorium school 1949
National Archives
ED 32/2034
Description:
Grassington Sanatorium Hospital Special School
Date:
1948-1951
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3767407
Other schools in the National Archives for Grassington
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=grassington+school
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So many local names & so many hits on the four posts.
Does nobody have any information on the families from Grassington?
Evelyn Blagden (1906 Dove Holes) and Margery Blagden (1908 Skipton) were my Great Aunts, their brother being Harry Blagden (1914) who is my Grandfather. Their parents were William Blagden (1883 - Dove Holes) and Martha H Oldfield (1885 - Dove Holes) who married inn 1905. Martha's brother (their uncle) was William Oldfield (21 Aug 1889). When Martha and William B moved to the Skipton area where William Blagden took up a job as a blacksmith William Oldfield, and his sister, Kate Elizabeth Oldfield, moved with them. In 1909 Kate married local Grassington man John Henry Darwin (he was the brother of Tom Darwin, who was to volunteer along with William Oldfield. These are Tunstills men. When William enlisted at Grassington and on his medal card his address is given as Grove House, Grassington. William Oldfield was wounded during the great war and awarded the Military Medal (infor from B Smith who has researched Tunstills Men). Harry Blagden married Evelyn Ludbrook from Esh in Durham and stayed in Grassington until his death in 1977.