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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Orkney => Topic started by: rebelrouser on Friday 03 February 12 10:28 GMT (UK)
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G'day Chatters,
I am hoping to obtain information on the LOGIE family of Westray and Papa Westray.
In particular with a James LOGIE who was born in 1824 to the parents of William and Mary nee BREMNER.
This James LOGIE came to Australia prior to 1848 and his Port of arrival is believed to be Port Adelaide.
Regards
Wal rr
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In Ladykirk Cemetery, Pierowall, Westray: erected by william logie in memory of his wife mary bremner who died 28th april 1847 aged 71years william logie who died 17 jany 1879 aged 84 years
akc
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william logie and mary bremners children so far :
isabel b 16 dec 1817
margaret b 26 feb 1822
james b 15 feb 1824
thomas b 18 aug 1827
david b 12 june 1830
seator b 19 sep 1832 died 28 jan 1912 gretna, westray
mary 27 dec 1835
william mudie b 14 nov 1837
mary 1 aug 1841 ( 1st mary must have died!! )
all were born in westray
akc
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Many thanks akc for the information.
I did have all the children which you have now confirmed, thanks.
The information in relation to cemetery inscription was fantastic.
Would you have access to the various census 1841 to and including the 1871 census, offline if necessary.
Regards
Wal rr
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Is it just me or do the dates not add up?
Mary Bremner/Logie died 1847 age 71 , so Birth c 1776
I doubt that she would still be having Children in 1841.
Shouldnt she be age 51ish?
And the William Logie died 1879 age 84 would be born c 1795.
1841 Census (under LOGUIE)
Farwald, Westray
Orkney and Shetland, Scotland
William LOGIE, 45, Farmer
Mary, 45
Isabella, 20
George, 20
JAMES, 15
Thomas, 14
William, 4
Mary, 10
1851 Census
Farrafield
Westray and Papa Westray,
Orkney, Scotland
William LOGIE, 55, Head, Mar, Farmer of 16 Acres employing 3 Labs, born North Row Adbury, Orkney
Margaret, 45, Wife, Mar, Farmers Wife, born North Row Adbury
Isabella, 33, Daug, Farmers Daug, born North Row
Thomas, 23, Son, Sailor, born North Row
Seater, 18, Son, Scholar, born North Row
William, 13, Son, Scholar, born Westray
Mary, 10, Daug, Scholar, born Westray
George SEATER, 4, Grandson, born Westray
Looks like William remarried.
William LOGIE Married Margaret LOGIE, 14 July 1849, Westray and Papa Westray, Orkney, Scotland.
Trish :)
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1861 Census (under LOGEE)
Farrafield, Westray, Orkney
William Logie, 65, Head, Mar, Farmer of 30 Acres/3 House
Margaret, Wife, Mar
Isabella, 43, Daug, Farm Servant
William, 23, Son, Farm Servant
Mary, 20, Daug, Farm Servant
David, 4, Grandson
All down as born Westray
1871 Census
Dykeside Farraveld,
Westray and Papa WEstray, Orkney
William LOGIE, 75, Head, Mar, Farmer of 30 Acres Arable
Margaret, 65, Wife
William, 33, Son, Farmers Son
Ellen, 27, Daug in Law, Farmers Sons Wife
Betsy, 4, Grand/Daug (Parents William/Ellen)
Hary, 1, Grand/Daug (Parents William/Ellen)
Isabella,53, Daug, Farmers Daug
+ a DAVID Logie, 17, Farm Servant and DAVID Logie, 14, Farm Servant
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George SEATOR Married Margaret LOGIE, 25 Nov 1843, Westray, Westray, Orkey Isles.
George Seator c 1847 on 1851 Census must be their Son.
GEORGE Logie Baptised 25 Dec 1819 to WILLIAM and MARY (Brebner)
WILLIAM Logie 16 April 1795 to JAMES Logie/MARGARET Logie
All on FreeREG + Baptisms akc quoted;
www.freereg.org.uk
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ah the plot thickens!! i did wonder about the age difference on the m.i inscription, it would make her 20 years older than him, orkney family history society,site has been out of action for a couple of days and i took the inscription out of my westray mi book, but on checking on the ofhs site they have the same inscription so would probably need to find her death cert to check
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on cursiter.com website: mary bremner born 1796 westray to george bremner and isabel seatter. sounds a more likely birthdate and these names would fit in with their children, so the mi inscription must be wrong or possibly not easily read?
akc
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Hi akc,
Yes something is wrong there re Marys age at Death.
Is there anyway you can check the 1849 Marriage later?
Hi Wall rr,
1891 Isabella is still alive age 73 and with Brother WILLIAM c 1838 Farmer of Farafeild and Family. Wife Ellen is down as Helen in 1891. Her Father and Brother are there also as Gullion/Giellion
She is still with them in 1901.
William LOGIE Maried Hellen GULLION 10 March 1865, Westray (IGI Extracted)
Mary BREMNER was Baptised 28 *1796, Westray Church, Westray, Orkney
Parents;
George BREMNER
Isobel SEATER
(Source FreeREG)
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I agree probably not easily read and Marys Parents look good as George/Isobel
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Seator LOGIE Married Thomas DREVER 07 March 1856, Westray
(Source Familysearch.Org)
George LOGIE Married Ann RENDELL 09 January 1851, WestrayWitnessed by WILLIAM Logie (FreeREG)
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To Trish and akc,
Many thanks for your time and the information that you have sent me.
I have printed it all off and now need to digest the information with my Corn Flakes.
Thanks Wal rr
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Trish1120
So interested that you answer on this and have also referred to my late father's book I helped him with 'Emigration of Seatters and Rendalls 1961-1925' (from Westray and Papwestray to New Zealand) with family trees including my direct ancestors:
John Seator b.1773 Westray who married Sybilla Logie b.1773 Westray
My father has the generation before as:
James Setter Westray m. Barbra Setter, but not dates and details. I wonder if you have any?
kindest regards
hundland
Seator LOGIE Married Thomas DREVER 07 March 1856, Westray
(Source Familysearch.Org)
George LOGIE Married Ann RENDELL 09 January 1851, WestrayWitnessed by WILLIAM Logie (FreeREG)
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Welcome to Rootchat hundland.
I will look over this for you in the next couple of days. Sorry I am unwell at present.
Trish :)
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Not sure if this is still active thread but if so, I do have pictures of:
James Logie (postmaster of Pierowall) and Wife Ann Balfour Logie (nee Hewison)
and others.
One picture I have is titled Grand uncle James Logie, Grand Aunt Ann Balfour Hewison, James Harcus, Neeny Maam, George Rendall and Mrs Rendall circa 1906-1907
My grandfather John Stewart Hewison was born Oct 13, 1896 in Westray to Timothy Harcus (?) Hewison and Elizabeth Walls of Westray.
The Hewison's are descended from the Westray Dons. I remember my grandmother - the above mentioned Milly - talking very fondly of the Logies and the Drevers.
I'm fairly new to Rootschat so not sure yet about appropriateness of posting pictures or what rules might be aside for ensuring not posting pictures of living persons.
If anyone interested in pictures just let me know