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Title: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Sunday 05 February 12 02:32 GMT (UK)
My great-great-grandfather, Thomas GAUNT (1829-1890) was a successful jeweller, optician, watch and clock maker and maker of Church plate in Melbourne, Australia. I've been told that he also had shops in London and York. Can anyone please verify this for me? (BTW, the business continued after his death until the 1970s). Business names were T. Gaunt until 1893 and then T. Gaunt & Co. Thanks.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 05 February 12 08:36 GMT (UK)
You could try the trade directories at http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/

Stan
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Thursday 09 February 12 04:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Stan. I've spent a fair bit of time going through the directories for York and London in the 1870s, 80s and 90s but not found any record of shops owned by Thomas Gaunt. Either my informant was mistaken or perhaps the British shops happened after the turn of the century. Looks as if this line of inquiry might have to go down as "not verified" for the time being, but thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: cpatrick on Sunday 19 February 12 09:55 GMT (UK)
Hello, My great great grandfather was also Thomas Gaunt! My mother's father's father (William Stanislaus Spillane from Limerick) was married to Cecilia Gaunt, Thomas's daughter.
I have found out some info about Thomas's business in Melbourne, but have not heard of any businesses he had elsewhere. I have wondered if his father was a watchmaker in the UK - have you found any info about this.
I look forward to hearing from you
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Monday 20 February 12 02:46 GMT (UK)
Hi - I'm just wondering which of Cecilia & William's children you are descended from - maybe Ernest? Anyway, in answer to your question I've found out that Thomas' father (also Thomas) was listed on several of the children's birth registrations as a clock case maker - which I think would have been more related to wood and metal working than to being a jeweller/clockmaker. Many years later, on Thomas' death certificate his father's occupation was given as an organ builder so presumably he had more than one occupation over time.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: cpatrick on Monday 20 February 12 10:03 GMT (UK)
Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the first time I've responded on a RootsChat forum, and I was lucky to find your initial message.
My maternal grandfather was Reginald Spillane (William and Cecilia's 4th child), who died in a boating accident on Boxing Day 1938, along with 2 of his sons, a brother-in-law and my mother's then-fiance. A great tragedy.
My brother told me the other day that he found a T. Gaunt clock for sale in a local store - it would be great to have, but it was quite a bit out of my price range! I have a copy of Thomas Gaunt's Will and also have seen a newspaper article which seems to contradict the Will. Do you know about the proceeds from his estate?
I've been using MyHeritage as a tree builder for the last 18 months, and am progressing with building up the tree. I look forward to hearing about our connection in the larger family.
Cheers,
Patrick
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Saturday 25 February 12 00:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Patrick
The boating accident was actually influential in bringing about the introduction of telescopes into the Victorian life-saving clubs because it was found that the inability to see the situation from the shore had been a significant factor in the tragedy.

Re Thomas Gaunt's estate, I believe that the answer to the confusion lies in the timing of the reports. When Gaunt died in 1890 his estate was valued quite highly. The will allowed the executors to continue running the company, which they did, with the expectation of being able to sell it (and the other assets) in due time and at the prices as valued. The problem was that the Land Boom ended in late 1892-early 1893. This put Victoria into recession and meant that the estate was suddenly much less valuable. It was declared insolvent because the assets couldn't be realised, but in fact they were eventually sold for more than the value of the outstanding debts.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: cpatrick on Sunday 26 February 12 07:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information. It now makes sense re: the Gaunt estate.
Regarding the drownings, I've seen newspaper articles from The Argus but did not know about the subsequent use of telescopes. Thanks for that info.
I'm wondering what connection you have with the Spillanes.

Cheers,
Patrick
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: mcteese on Sunday 31 August 14 16:39 BST (UK)
Dear Patrick,

Thank you for your query re Thomas Gaunt of Gaunt and Company, Jewellers. My connection with your ancestor is through my maternal great grand-father, Henry William Vanheems who trained with him and quite rapidly became trustee of the company. It interests me that you have a copy of Thomas Gaunt's will, as Henry, who replaced Thomas as manager, was also co-executor of his will. This is, at least, my understanding. Would you be so kind as to confirm that Henry Vanheems was one of the executors i.e. his name appears on the will. Also, I should love to have a scanned copy of Thomas' will, if that would be possible.  As to evidence of Thomas Gaunt having businesses in London, this may not have been the case and that his reputation for outstanding craftsmanship appears to have dated from his arrival in Melbourne, Australia in 1868. I would be most grateful if we could correspond, as I have other information regarding Thomas Gaunt which may be of interest to you.   Yours sincerely, Robin Teese (mother: Veronica Victoria Vanheems)
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Monday 01 September 14 04:44 BST (UK)
Hi Robin - this is Marion, who started the post about Thomas Gaunt. Gaunt arrived in Melbourne in 1855/56 and started his business in 1859. Sometime about 1873 he employed Henry Vanheems, who became the manager of the Royal Arcade shop while Gaunt continued to run the business until his death in 1890. Vanheems was one of three executors of his estate; his will can be downloaded from the Public Records of Victoria (PROV) website.

I have recently published a book about Thomas Gaunt, "Gaunt's Time: Thomas Ambrose Gaunt, 1829-1890" - please PM me or respond via this thread if you'd like any further details. I'm happy to correspond with you and always happy to find out more about Thomas Gaunt!
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Tuesday 19 January 16 11:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Marion, I was wondering how to get a copy of the book on Thomas Gaunt as he was my great,great grandfather? Regards Rachel
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Thursday 21 January 16 10:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel - I sent you a PM. Have you seen it? Marion.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Saturday 23 January 16 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Marion, a bit new to this so just checking first I am replying the correct way?
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Monday 25 January 16 10:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel - just look  across the brown banner near the top of the sheet and use "my messages" to read the message from me and then reply. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: sarah on Monday 25 January 16 10:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi Rachel - I sent you a PM. Have you seen it? Marion.

Please remember woodstockaus that new members are unable to use the private message function until they have made a couple of posts ;)

Welcome to RootsChat Rdshlake

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Thursday 28 January 16 12:05 GMT (UK)
Sarah - Rachel has already made a couple of posts. Since this is a public forum I really need to be able to contact her privately to arrange for her to get the book, so can you please enable PMs for her? Thanks, Marion.

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Please remember woodstockaus that new members are unable to use the private message function until they have made a couple of posts ;)

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: sarah on Thursday 28 January 16 12:31 GMT (UK)
Rachel can already reply to your PM as she had done a couple of posts.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Thursday 28 January 16 12:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Sarah.

Rachel, you should be able to see "my messages" now. Please can you check for the message I sent you earlier? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Friday 29 January 16 11:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Marion, Sorry for the late reply.
Well Eric Spillane one of Cecilia and William Spillane's children was my grandfather. He married Ella Taylor and their daughter was Denise Spillane ( my mother)  It is all very interesting isn't it. We live just out of Melbourne and quite often visit Bourke St where the statues are over looking the mall of the old Gaunts Jewellers location. Are you living oseas? Also do you know if there had ever been some sort of family reunion? Regards Rachel
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Sunday 31 January 16 10:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel - my grandfather was Thomas, the second son of Cecilia and William. We live in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne, so I get to "visit" some of Gaunt's clocks as we drive around. I always watch for his town hall clocks when we use Citylink - Emerald Hill (South Melbourne), Sandridge (Port Melbourne) and Hotham (North Melbourne) can all be seen in the distance. It was fascinating to find out their histories, and the stories of many of his other clocks, as part of the research for my book. I'm not aware of any family reunions, but that's not to say that one couldn't be organized...
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Sunday 31 January 16 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hi again, so very interesting.  So in regards to your book how do I get a copy? Also would you be interested in meeting?
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Friday 05 February 16 23:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel - I'd love to meet and I could bring the book with me. I live near Knox City shopping centre - perhaps we could find somewhere between our places to suit us both?
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Monday 08 February 16 10:30 GMT (UK)
Hi again,  I don't work Mondays so was wondering if you would be free 22nd Feb. Is Fountain Gate shopping centre far for you?
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Friday 12 February 16 07:38 GMT (UK)
Hi - sorry, I work Mondays so perhaps a weekend? Fountain Gate would be fine.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Friday 12 February 16 09:32 GMT (UK)
Ok,no worries. Are you free this weekend at all?  if it's easier to text
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: sarah on Friday 12 February 16 10:20 GMT (UK)
Hello Rdshlake,

I have just passed on your mobile number by personal message  ;) it is much safer.

Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rdshlake on Friday 12 February 16 10:41 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Sarah. I can now see what I did wrong.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Lopez966 on Wednesday 08 February 17 20:05 GMT (UK)
Hi.  I would like to bring to everyones attention especially to those related to tj gaunt the watch maker... i have come across a very old watch made by tj gaunt with the initials S.J engraved very beautifully on the back of the watch .  Contact me if your would like to make some enquiries.. thanks
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Oldsurveyinstruments on Thursday 06 April 17 11:48 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have a mounted compass that I purchased from England and imported to Melbourne.
The face is marked " T. Gaunt & Co London and Melbourne" so this answers your question that Gaunt had an outlet/office in London.
Regards
Brian
www.oldsurveyinstruments.com

Hand Held Compasses
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Rhododendron on Thursday 06 April 17 12:24 BST (UK)
A Thomas Gaunt, son of Joseph, was a member of London Clockmakers' Company in 1815.  His brother Joseph was also a member from 1815 to 1824. 

Their father Joseph was also a member from 1761 until his death in 1815.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Monday 24 April 17 12:49 BST (UK)
A Thomas Gaunt, son of Joseph, was a member of London Clockmakers' Company in 1815.  His brother Joseph was also a member from 1815 to 1824. 

Their father Joseph was also a member from 1761 until his death in 1815.

Hi Rhododendron - it sounds as if these could be the father, uncle and grandfather of my Thomas Gaunt, which would make it very much a family business since the brother of my Thomas, Myott Gaunt, was also a clockmaker. Could you please send me any details you have, or tell me how to track them down for myself? Many thanks!
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Monday 24 April 17 12:55 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have a mounted compass that I purchased from England and imported to Melbourne.
The face is marked " T. Gaunt & Co London and Melbourne" so this answers your question that Gaunt had an outlet/office in London.
Regards
Brian
www.oldsurveyinstruments.com

Hand Held Compasses

Hi Brian - I believe that Thomas Gaunt sourced some instruments from England via an agent, but since your compass is labelled "T. Gaunt & Co" it would have been sold after his death when the business was being run by F. W. Heath (1893-c1947).
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Bill J Barton on Monday 12 November 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
Perhaps this will help

http://adsbit.harvard.edu//full/1863AReg....1..200./0000221.000.html

Astronomical Register, Vol. 1, 1863, p. 200 advertisement for a telescope maker in London called Thomas Gaunt.

Bill.

Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Tuesday 13 November 18 13:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill - thanks for this. I believe that there was a Thomas Gaunt, clockmaker, in Tintwistle UK as well as the Thomas Gaunt in Melbourne Australia - the Australian one always advertised as "T. Gaunt" so I think perhaps this telescope maker might have been the British Thomas (or even another one, since there seem to have been lots of Gaunts involved in instrument making). Can't be sure, though.
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Irene Petterson on Friday 15 February 19 03:21 GMT (UK)
Hello all,
I am no relative of Thomas GAUNT however I been researching the history/age of a Admiral Fitzroy Barometer (Prize Medal) I am trying to unearth the history of this artefact. The only backstory is a possible 4th generation family heirloom from a ship or boat.

The only marking I can see is below however you could be mistaken to think it was Caunt instead of Gaunt.

"THOs.GAUNT Meteorological INS' Maker
Corner of Royal Arcade
Melbourne."

I was hoping to gain access to the book?

Kind Regards
Irene
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Saturday 16 February 19 07:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Irene

The Australian version of the Fitzroy barometer was manufactured and sold by Thomas Gaunt at his shop in Melbourne from the 1870s onwards. The print version of Gaunt's Time is unavailable, but you can buy it as an e-book at https://www.books2read.com/u/mZ5QNp
Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: Imbi on Monday 09 September 19 08:34 BST (UK)
Hi there -

I am following your thread with interest.

I am not a relative of Thomas Gaunt, however, I am researching his successor F.W.Heath, who is my great-great-great grandfather!

Does anyone here know anything about what happened to the company under his administration?

Or if anyone has any information pertaining to his life, family or any pictures I would be so eternally grateful!

Kindest regards to you all.

Title: Re: Thomas GAUNT, jeweller & watchmaker
Post by: woodstockaus on Wednesday 18 September 19 12:42 BST (UK)
Hi Imbi - My research has been about Thomas Gaunt and so I haven't done any serious work on the life of F.W. Heath. He bought Thomas Gaunt's business in 1892, re-named it "T. Gaunt & Co" in late 1893 and ran it until his death in 1947, seeing it through the Great Depression and two world wars.

You might be interested in an article I've come across, which is available from the State Library of Victoria - 'The jewellery of Willis & Sons of Melbourne' (Heath was a partner there before leaving to buy Gaunt's). It's in the Australiana Society Newsletter, vol 10(1), 1988, p13-18.