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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: soapy1 on Sunday 05 February 12 18:54 GMT (UK)
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I've now managed to trace back to Robert Burnet (1758-1815) who was married to Jean Masterton(1760-1820). Anyone know any further back than this, eg his parents? The family were at Ladywells farm and later t at Peatknows Farm. I've been trying to find Peatknows Farm, but can't after lots of searches. I'd be grateful if anyone can help. Thanks in advance
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Soapy,
I have literally just seen your message having just come back on line after many many months - reasons too many to go into.
My ggggg ( I think!) are Edward Burnet and Jean Masterson. I have lots of information about their descendants but have nothing about his parents. Will study my files. I suspect you have lots of info too. Has anything filtered down your line about a Dr. Caird???!!!!
Reiver
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Hi Reiver,
I'll have a look through my stuff. I only got to know all of this in the last couple of years. My mum whose maiden name was Burnett died just over 21 years ago, and I knew very little. i never met any of the Burnetts though she always spoke about the cousins she had in Annan. We only knew one of her cousins , Sarah Telford. Do you mean Robert Burnett. My grandfather was called John Nathaniel Burnett > Robert Burnett > James Burnett>
John Burnett> Robert Burnett m Jean Masterton
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By the way, my name's Elspeth
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Of course I do mean Robert Burnet - he who married Jean Masterson. Sorry. Cannot find a son John though. Who did he marry?
Reiver
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He married Rachael Currie. Their grave is in Annan, just at the back of the town hall. I went down there with my sister around April to have a look around.
i have an extensive family tree on Ancestry
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My link to Robert Burnet and Jane Masterson is through their son Edward (= Janet Rae). Yours is through their eldest(?) son John (= Rachel Currie).
I've been given POSSIBLE parents for Robert - Robert Burnet (1739 - 1807) and Mary Rae (c1715 - 1796)
Also POSSIBLE Roberts parents - James Burnet (c1675) and Sibella Edgar (1704 - 1775)
Regards
Reiver
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Hi Reiver,
I hope you are well
Those names wouldn't have surprised me at all. They are known surnames in the area and crop up elsewhere in the tree, funnily enough
Elspeth
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My ggg grandmother Mary Burnett was born January 1815 in Middlebie. Illegitimate daughter of
"Robert Burnete, son of the late Robert Burnete of Walls - accused father: and Betty Wells in Backburn". My guess is that Robert senior would be the husband of Jean Masterton and tenant of (Lady-)Walls in Middlebie. Snag is that his gravestone says he died in August 1815, and hence was not "late" the previous January.
On Mary's death cert (1900) her father Robert is described as a "mason". If he was the son of
Robert of Walls, he'd have been born c1790. I can't find him in later life. A downloaded document "The Burnets of Dumfries Scotland" says he may have settled near Hawick.
Any comments or insights welcome.
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Hello, I'm descended from Robert (Snr);s son John. There is a brother Robert, born 1790 who married jane Little. He might have lived in Hawick. I'm sorry, I don't have any verified info. I did find Mary's birth in LDS, with the parents names you state
Was Mary married to James Bell ? In 1841 census, they appear to be together, if I assume correctly, at Billmans Knowe ????
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Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, Mary married James Bell, a Dockenflatt Bell, I believe.
From 1851 they were at Gibsons in Tundergarth. I have plenty of data on the family
and descendants, with some on James Bell's ancestors and siblings. Mary's mother Betty
Wells was with them in 1841 and 1851, but not later. She is stated to be 60 in 1851, born
Middlebie, but no death certificate is extant, so I suppose she died befoe 1855.
I had an OPR births list for Middlebie Burn*, which has three entries for Robert and Jane Little.
Interestingly, there is a Burnett group in the 1841 Middlebie census, at a place called Sunnybrae.
There's Jean, 35, Jean, 14, Robert, 11, and John 2, all born Dumfries-shire. The two older children
fit exactly two of the Robert/Jane children, though young John is not in the OPR. Robert is not there.
first named is James Burnett, 60, described a Parish Pauper. Jean, incidentally, is an agric. day
labourer, which suggests that her husband is dead or absent long-term.
Are you aware of this Sunnybrae group, and what became of them? I haven't had any success in
tracking them - they don't seem to be in the online D&G 1851 census data.
Thanks again, "Soapy1".
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Hi, I think Sunnybrae is the name of a house in Eaglefield see here
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-16947-eaglesfield-village-sunnybrae-house-middl (http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-16947-eaglesfield-village-sunnybrae-house-middl)
Bell seems a common name down there. I went to Annan last April and the graveyard was full of Bells. There are Irvings in the Burnetts too
I'll have look through and see what I can find
Elspeth
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Peatknowes is a cottage between Potstown and Cushathill farms between Middlebie and Eaglesfield. I think it may have been renamed now.
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Sunnybrae also had a number of cottages on the roadside.....My ancestors (Rae and Irving) lived in two of them. It's the name of the brae that the cottages and the big house sit on at the Springkell end of the village.