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Could anyone please help with information on Margaret GINNANE who married John HENNESSY possibly in Clare or Limerick.
Apparently the surname of GINNANE is fairly common in Clare but we have not been able to find any records so far on the marriage nor the birth of their children.
Their daughter Eliza HENNESSY was born C1840 and there were 3 other children that we know of - George, Thomas and Robert.
John HENNESSY died in 1885 at Shanagolden, Limerick and his wife Margaret died in 1886 also at Shanagolden. John was a Clerk of the Court of Petty Sessions at Shanagolden.
Thank you for your time,
Christine
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This couple below were 3rd cousins :---
“Dispensation in 4th degree et / & 4th degree consanguinitatis ex duplica { dipiti or clipite ? } obtenta” :--- photos now on www.registers.nli.ie
M#0584 JANUARY 23rd 1866 JOHN HENNESSY from QUERRIN
married to MARY GINNANE from LISHEEN sic ? = Mary Guinnane from Lisheen ?
Witnesses: here as Jas. = JAMES HENNESSY & MARY QUEALY
Priest: Fr Michael Molony , here as Ml Molony , not Fr M C Moloney
3rd-Cousins marrying : One pair of the 16 great-great-grandparents of the groom was also one pair of the 16 great-great-grandparents of the bride. Mary Ginane / Mary Guinane from Lisheen : this is a few miles north of the Rahona East farm & Carrigaholt village. She will likely be a daughter of the ‘separate’ Denis Ginnane family from near there, who preferred to use the spelling of Denis Guinnane from LisheenFurroor, or further north in Kilfearagh Civil Parish at Doonaghboy / Ballyonan or Foohagh.
From the “Naming Pattern” Mary’s mother was Bridget Guinnane.
John & Mary Hennessy baptised at least 6 children at Querrin :---
* This family from Doonaghboy / Kilfearagh usually spelled themselves as Guinnane.
[ So, Mary is associated with the separate, ‘Denis Guinnane’ family line ? ]
[ Also, see 2012 research by & for Christine Mackay from Toowoomba, Queensland. ]
[ Also see emails 20150312 with Joanne Sexton / Joanne Campbell from Lismore,NSW -- she went to Templemeeagh, Querrin in 2013. ]
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Group of at least 6 Hennessy-Guinnane / Hennessey-Ginnane siblings @ Querrin :---
#2146 Bridget in early October 1867 {as Guinnane, Sponsor: Ellen Guinnane };
#2553 Kate on Feb 11th 1870 {as Guinnane, Sponsor: Ellen Guinnane };
#2947 Mary on April 23rd 1872 {as Ginnane, Sponsor: Honor Hennessy };
Ellen on April 28th 1875 {as Ginane, Sponsor: Mary Hennessy };
Martin on Oct 27th 1877 {as Guinane, Sponsor: Johanna Walshe };
& in late 1878(?): Ellen H. {a.k.a. Nellie Hennessy O’Keeffe Garranson {as Ginnane}; + other sibling(s) ?
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[ See the 1882 Rent Review just below for an Edmond Ginnane from LisheenFurroor = maybe Mary & Bridget{ see M#0438 }’s brother or father ? ]
The website www.EPPI.DIPPAM.AC.UK has lists of 1882 Judicial Rent Reviews : a time not long after this Parish Register which operated until March 17th 1878. And so many of the farmers’ names will be the same. Unfortunately, the data is .csv formatted into a shambles ? There is a sample, including #412 for an Edmond (Ned) Ginnane from LisheenFurroor in this transcription .
Mary & Ned’s sister Bridget is in the database of applications for the Old Age Pension Search of the 1851 Census.
Also see Margaret’s marriage M#0732 on Feb 14th 1870 = was Margaret a sister of Mary & Bridget (senior) & Ned ? ==== More from Murray at Ginnane.co.nz
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I have Guinane Hennessey connections although I do not have much information on them . My great gran and grandad were the Guinanes but was told by a relative my great gran (Bridget Guinane) was sister to Ellen Hennessey . Her Mother was also called Bridget we believe that she was first married to a William Hennessey then married Patrick Guinane we think this is why her sister had the name Hennessey and she didnt .
Ellen also had a brother, Ritchard Hennessey that we know of .I know he died about 1959 in the Dublin area and is burried there.
Ellen Hennessey married William Riley in Accrington lancs
Bridget married Charles Flynn in Accrington lancs
their other brothers were twins John and Dan Guinane
John Guinane died in 1904 in Poona india whilst serving with the East Lancs Regiment
Dan Guinane Married Barabara Fergusen and went to Canada I think they went to Montreal via NY
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John HENNESSY died in 1885 at Shanagolden, Limerick and his wife Margaret died in 1886 also at Shanagolden. John was a Clerk of the Court of Petty Sessions at Shanagolden.
John 1885......Thomas Hennessy, son was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06292/4803380.pdf
Margaret 1886.......Robert Hennessy, son was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06245/4788005.pdf
KG
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Not sure if you are trying to find out more accypete but here are some dates.
Marriage
March quarter 1907 Haslingden district
Charles Flynn and Bridget Guinane
Charles and Bridget b Nenagh, Tipperary in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4M6-S7J
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Marriage
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php
1901
Geirge William Riley and Ellen Hennessay
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4M6-DXW
Ellen b abt 1877 Nenagh, Tipperary
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Is this your family in Accrington in 1901
Patrick and Bridget Guinane - with Daniel and John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9J5-5SF
It doesn’t quite match up with your information.
You can look for civil records from 1864 here https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Here is the marriage of Patrick Guinane and Bridget Ryan, spinster
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11003/8023173.pdf
Twins John and Daniel - father noted as John but possibly that is an error
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02793/2025151.pdf
Catherine - parents Patrick and Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02748/2009708.pdf
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I feel happier now :)
Ellen Hennessy - parents William and Bridget (Ryan)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03136/2150115.pdf
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Marriage of William Hennessy and Bridget Ryan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11514/8234769.pdf
Irish genealogy has children to this couple
Death of William Hennessy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020613/7232381.pdf
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I feel happier now :)
Ellen Hennessy - parents William and Bridget (Ryan)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03136/2150115.pdf
;D ;D
Ellen born at Ballinaclogh (sic) on the outskirts of Nenagh.
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/upper-ormond/ballynaclogh/ballynaclogh/ballynaclogh/
KG
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Richard Hennessey married Annie Collins 1898 in Nenagh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10419/5793919.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Nenagh_East_Urban/Dublin_Road/1697653/
1911 note address
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Tyrconnell_Road__East_Side/101429/
died 1959
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1959/04360/4130543.pdf
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The rest/most of the family are in Accrington in 1901.
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All of this information is fantastic thanks every one, Regards Richard Hennessey the dates his occupation all ties in to some information I already Have via a memorial card I have. the card did'nt show his occupation but the photo on it showed him dressed as you would expect a train driver /fireman to have dressed (a bit like Casey jones) :) Also another member of my family suggested that he had something to do with the railway. He is buried in Inchicore I think this also used to be near the railway yards which would tie in.
I also have been led believe one of his (Richards) family was involved in professional football either for Utd or Arsenal possible both ... i ll have to keep digging away.
I remember once my granddad watching a match and him pointing some one out and telling me it was his cousin. but that's granddads full of tall stories ;D.
Once I find the card of Richard I post it here just in case anyone else is interested.
stay safe every one .
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Hi Heywood
You ae bang on with most if not all of the information you have posted it thank you very much for your help
Regards
Pete Flynn
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That’s good to hear :)