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Title: Margaret Heartley *Completed* thank you
Post by: lmw86 on Friday 10 February 12 17:50 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I'm having trouble finding some info, on my GGM Annie Bowness' birth certificate (09 June1883 in Maryport, Cumberland) her parents are listed as Thomas and Margaret Bowness (nee Heartley), but I can't find anything else, marriage record for them, or the 1901 and 1911 census records that have Annie in them aswell.

Any help would be apprecatied.
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 10 February 12 17:55 GMT (UK)
Hi the marriage of Thomas and Margaret would appear to be:-

Thomas Bowness to (on same page) Margaret HARTLEY March 1874 Whitehaven 10b 878

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: junev on Saturday 11 February 12 17:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,

this looks like thomas & Margaret (plus children) in 1881 prior to Annie's birth

RG11 piece 5179 folio 73 page 15 at Greystoke
thomas Bowness 27 England
Margaret Bowness wife 25 b Greystoke
John Wm Bowness son 6
Joseph Hartley Bowness son  4
Mary Jane Bowness d 2

Junev
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 11 February 12 20:36 GMT (UK)
do you have the parents in 1891,1901
RG12/4327/48/6
RG13/4905/78/8
annie is not with them in either of these censuses
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 11 February 12 20:47 GMT (UK)
the parents are on the 1911 census
unfortunately we are not allowed to do 1911 look ups
but if you look for them in westmorland they are there
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 February 12 21:20 GMT (UK)
There were 3 births around the same time:

December 1882   Barrow in Furness -- Annie Bowness           

June 1883   Cockermouth --- Annie Bowness  (the one here)
        
September  1884  Cockermouth --- Annie McGarry Bowness      
     
Is your Annie definitely this one?
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 February 12 21:30 GMT (UK)
1891

Annie Bowness b 1883 Aspatria Cumberland as a niece to a Thomas and Martha Harrison (nee Tolson)

Annie Bowness b 1882 Barrow in Furness is in the workhouse

There are a couple of others who are younger but with parents in Cumberland / Westmorland
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: lmw86 on Wednesday 13 June 12 13:30 BST (UK)
Thanks all. Sorry for bumping this thread back up after so long but I got busy with work and completely forgot about this.


I did think the Annie Bowness in the workhouse was my Annie at first, with Mathew Bowness who I assumed to be her father. I can't remember what changed my mind about that it's been too long since I've looked at this, cobwebs in the brain!

My Annie had a daughter Annie (my GGM), I have the younger Annie's death certificate which gave me her date of birth (July 1909), I then got her birth certificate which listed her mother as Annie Bowness, a charwoman of 21 Davy Street, Barrow, and her normal address as 1 Rampside Road, Barrow.

In the 1911 census I found what I think is both of them at 11 Davy Street, the older Annie listed as Sister-in-Law to the head and housekeeper, and the younger as niece. The older Annie is also listed as single, and on the younger Annie's birth certificate no father is named. Also, the handwriting and signature on the 1911 census at this address (completed by Annie Bowness) is the same as the signature of Annie Bowness on the younger Annie Bowness's birth certificate. If it is the right Annie (I am confident it is), aged 28 in 1911, then 1883 would make sense as year of birth.. however I have just realised that the census was in April, and 1883 Annie was born on 09 June 1883, which would make her 27 in April 1911, so it might be the 1882 Annie.

I think I have completely confused myself now ???
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:31 BST (UK)
Annie Bowness birth registered Barrow in Furness 1882 ,
mother Paxton,

Annie 1909,no mothers name given



incidently Roose workhouse is /was on Rampside Road
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:36 BST (UK)
Joseph Grainger married Mary Bowness,
St James Barrow in Furness 1886
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:38 BST (UK)
Mary A Grainger death registered Barrow 1909
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: lmw86 on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:41 BST (UK)
Thanks a lot for that Radcliff, never realised the workhouse was on Rampside Road- was more interested in the Davy Street address since it appeared on the birth certificate and census. The more you know! I was struggling to find the sister that connected Annie and Joseph Grainger. Thanks again :)
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:47 BST (UK)
Births for Bowness and Paxton

Margaret Catherine,sub district Dalton,Barrow 1865

Mary Ann ,sub district Dalton,Barrow 1867

Isabella ,sub district Barrow 1869

William Paxton,sub district Dalton,Barrow 1871

John Thomas,Barrow ,Barrow 1877

Matthew ,Barrow Barrow 1882,
then Annie
all have mothers maiden name Paxton
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 14:50 BST (UK)
Matthew Bowness and Annie Paxton,married St George Barrow in Furness
1863
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 15:07 BST (UK)
So are you back on track now,

1871,Matthew and Mary, Mc Clintock Street,(Hawcoat)

1881 census , Matthew and Mary Grovenor Street Barrow,(Newbarns)

Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 15:17 BST (UK)
Ann M Bowness death registered Barrow In Furness 1882


Matthew and Annie in Barrow workhouse 1891



Possiblle death of Matthew Barrow In Furness 1892

Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 15:18 BST (UK)
All birth, death and marriage dates are available on Cumbria BMD
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 15:22 BST (UK)
Now that is a turn up for the books,

Annie Bowness married Joseph Grainger ,Barrow in Furness regster office or registrar attended 1915

and had five children, a nice ending then
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 13 June 12 21:11 BST (UK)
Ann Paxton Bowness is born in Northumberland,
and I think Isabella her daughter is there with her baby
RG12/4205
 9 E Clayton Street,Newcastle Upon Tyne
Arthur Jones,aged 34,fuse machinist born Norfolk
Sarah Jones ,wife aged 33,born Newcastle
Family and boarders
and then at the end
Isabella Bowness aged 22,servant,born Barrow In Furness,
Louisa Bowness aged 1 Barrow In Furness

Louisas brth is registered 1889 Barrow In Furness
Title: Re: Margaret Heartley
Post by: lmw86 on Thursday 14 June 12 06:53 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Radcliff, you've definitely given me a lot to go off!  ;D