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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: Steam Queen on Saturday 11 February 12 00:28 GMT (UK)
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My paternal grandmother was an Edmonds and I wanted to find out information on my British family roots. Her father was William Edmonds, Agricultural Engineer. My father was Albert Hugh Edmonds Lloyd. I was born and live in the USA. Can anyone help me?
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hi,,welcome to the forum,,,,,do you have any years of birth? places of birth etc? the more info you provide,,,the easier it is for us to help. ;)
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Hello and welcome to RootsChat
Hope we can help you.
It is RootsChat policy to not post details of the living (spam etc) so we have to be a little careful.
Could you give the name of the person you are looking for ??? Do you know where/what county they were born in??
I have found a Winifred Edmonds who married William A lloyd - but her father was Edwin H? Edmonds occ Engineer agricultural machines????
Any further info you can give would help
Suz
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Hey Suz,
Winifred and William were mygrandparents. I guess I made a mistake with my great grandfather's name. Can you tell me anything else. My dad Albert was born in 1917. What was my great grandmother's name?
Thank You
Gloria
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1901 census RG13/1911/92/15
Coped? Hall Wootton Basset Wiltshire
Edwin H Edmonds 45 Engineer ag machin Employer born Lydiard Tregoze Wiltshire
Fanny M 45 Brinkworth Wilts
William J son 21 Eng. ag machinery at home Lydiard Millicent Wilts
Fanny F dau 19 L. M
Rhoda 17 L M
Albert 13 Lydiard tregoze
Beatrice 12 dau L T
Lizzie dau 10 L T
Nelson son 8 L T
Mervin 7 L T
Winifred dau 5 Lydiard tregoze
Herbert 3 L T
Marriage. On same page FreeBMD
March 1/4 1878
Edwin Hugh Edmonds and Fanny Mary Walker
Registration district Highwood Wiltshire
volume 5a page 29
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This looks like Fanny M Walker with her parents and siblings in 1871 RG10/1885/11/13
Burton Buthay Wootton bassett Wiltshire
Jasper Walker 46 Painter born Brinkworth
Sarah wife 42 Brinworth
Elizabeth dau 19 Brinkworth
Fanny M 15 brinkworth
William J son 11 Brinkworth
Sarah A dau 9 Brinkworth
Hephzibah 6 dau Wootton Basset
Richard J son 3 Wootton Bassett
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And this looks like the marriage of Fanny M's parents.
On same page - FreeBMD
Malmsbury registration district (which includes Brinkworth)
June 1/4 1850 vol 8 page 652
Jasper Walker and Sarah Burchell
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1851 HO107/1835/136/1
Barnes's Green Brinkworth Malmesbury
Jasper Walker head 25 Carrier
Sarah 22 carrier's wife
Emma dau 9 moths
Next door Henry Burchell head 34 Cooper and carpenter
All born Brinkworth
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To follow William A Lloyd's line back you really need the marriage cert for he and Winnie.
When ordering use the spelling given on FreeBMD for Winifred or just use William's name :)
Winnifred Edmonds, William A Lloyd June 1/4 1915 Cricklade vol 5a page 131 (check details on FreeBMD)
You can order online here http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
There is a family in the 1901 census living in Swindon Wiltshire
RG13/1907/28/6
19 Cheltenham Street Swindon
Albert E Lloyd 54 Railway engineer {fitter(?)} born Birmingham Warwickshire
Susannah wife 53 born Wales NK (doesn't know which town or county)
Susie dau 29
Albert E 24 engine fitter
Florence M 19
Ethel J 17
William A 9
All children born Swindon. So Susannah the mother may be the Welsh link. But to be sure you don't chase the wrong family you need that marriage cert for William A and Winifred :)
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Death FreeBMD
Susannah Lloyd age 59 Dec 1/4 1907 Swindon vol 5a page 21
I looked at the 1881 census to see if Susannah was more specific about her birthplace.
1881 RG11/2019/93/37
19 Cheltenham Street Swindon
Albert E Lloyd 34 Engineer fitter London Middlesex
Susannah wife 32 Pontypridd Wales
Albert E 4
Susan A 9
Caroline M 2
All children born Swindon
Marriage FreeBMD
Albert Edward Lloyd and Susannah Pritchard reg district Highworth (which covers Swindon) Sept 1/4 1871 vol 5a page 25
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This is the best census yet for Susannah's birthplace. But you still need that marriage cert for Winifred and William Lloyd cos all of this could be the wrong family for William A Lloyd!
RG 12/1584/29/4
19 Cheltenham Street Swindon
Albert E Lloyd 44 steam engine fitter born Blackfriars London
Susannah 41 Pontnewynydd Monmouthsire Wales
Susan A dau 19
Albert E 14 steam engine fitter apprentice
Cordelia 15 (is this Caroline from the 1881?)
Florence M 9
Ethel J 7
All children born Swindon
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There are four Susannah Pritchards born Monmouthshire 1850 +/- 2. I chose this one because it is the only one in the Pontypool reg district and there is a sister Cordelia.
BUT you need the marriage cert of Albert E Lloyd to Susannah Pritchard given in an earlier post. Family research means nothing without the documentaion to prove it. Your first step is the marriage cert for Winifred and William because I am just making guesses at the moment.
1851 HO107/2449/233/41
William Pritchard 40
Ann Pritchard 44
Cordelia Pritchard 13
Phillip R Pritchard 10
Richard Pritchard 5
Susanah Pritchard 2
Richard Fisher 26
Ann Fisher 21
Elizabeth Fisher 1
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Hi There
Your family sound very familiar - I believe they are related to mine! The engineering side of the Edmonds family lived in Wootton Bassett and also Lyneham - Edwin Edmonds was the start of the engineering side of things. I will check my tree now, but do believe you may actually be on it! Let me know if these towns sounds likely. Hope to hear from you soon! Best wishes, Debra Edmonds (Swindon, UK)
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Hi again!
Further to my message yesterday - I have checked my family tree and you are on it! We are 4th cousins! Please message me offline and I can share all the information with you. I have Albert born 1916 in Wootton Bassett, his wife was Gloria and he had children Gloria(!!!!) and Winifred both born in the USA.
I have photographs of Edwin Hugh Edmonds and Fanny Walker with their children, so Winifred (Albert's mother) will be in the photographs - I have a few of them. They are lovely photos.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Debra Edmonds (Swindon)
Hi There
Your family sound very familiar - I believe they are related to mine! The engineering side of the Edmonds family lived in Wootton Bassett and also Lyneham - Edwin Edmonds was the start of the engineering side of things. I will check my tree now, but do believe you may actually be on it! Let me know if these towns sounds likely. Hope to hear from you soon! Best wishes, Debra Edmonds (Swindon, UK)
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Hi edmonds, this thread is from 2012 and the original poster, Steam Queen, as not been active on RootsChat since 2013.
If they still have the same email address they should get a notification.
In the meantime, wellcome to RootsChat.
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Hello this is Steamqueen, I'm still on. Thanks
This is a post from Steamqueen this morning, who had clicked on the "report to moderator" button instead of the reply button. Hopefully they will reply to you post very soon Edmunds.
Regards
Sarah
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Hi, My name is Teresa Carter, daughter of Mary Jean Carter (Nee Bennett) who's father was Frederick Ivor Bennett, who married Florence (Flo) Bennett nee Edmonds born 1902.
She had siblings as follows:-
Herbert 1898
Winnifred 1896 (LLoyd nee Edmonds)
Mervyn 1894
Nelson 1892
Beatrice 1889
Albert 1887 (Air Mechanic 2nd Class, died age 30 in an air accident while training 20th August 1917
Fred 1885
Fanny Frances 1882
Their Parents were Fanny Mary Edmonds (nee Walker) 1856 originally from Brinkworth and Edwin Hugh Edmonds 1856 from Lydiard Tregoze - Engineer/Agent/fitter/repairer.
Hope this helps everyone, guess I have found a few cousins!
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I have received a PM from steamqueen re the two last posts.
I have given them a link to this thread so they can reply on here and also instructions on sending a PM
to Edmonds and teresa.carter.
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Yes they are my paternal grandparents and Edwin s my great grandfather. That's the right family.
Not sure if this is the right family for my grandfather William Lloyd.
2 Messages from Steamqueen.
Steamqueen you clicked on the button that says "report to moderator" which is why the message only came through to me. To reply to the topic you need to look for the blue "reply" button that appears at the bottom of this thread ;)
Regards
Sarah
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There are four Susannah Pritchards born Monmouthshire 1850 +/- 2. I chose this one because it is the only one in the Pontypool reg district and there is a sister Cordelia.
BUT you need the marriage cert of Albert E Lloyd to Susannah Pritchard given in an earlier post. Family research means nothing without the documentaion to prove it. Your first step is the marriage cert for Winifred and William because I am just making guesses at the moment.
1851 HO107/2449/233/41
William Pritchard 40
Ann Pritchard 44
Cordelia Pritchard 13
Phillip R Pritchard 10
Richard Pritchard 5
Susanah Pritchard 2
Richard Fisher 26
Ann Fisher 21
Elizabeth Fisher 1
Hi Crisane, I was wondering if you can provide me with contact to Debra Edmonds in this post. My name is Jill Jones and Albert Hugh Edmonds Lloyd is my dad as well. Outside of the children he have with Gloria Lloyd, he had two children with my mom, Trella Marie Jones: children- Jill Jones & Sherwin Jones. We too live in US. I would like to contact Debra Edmonds to gain info about out UK family. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. Jill Jones
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Hi Jill
Debra should receive notification of your post wishing to make contact with her. However you can also try contacting her by private message (pm). Both of these contact methods are reliant on her having the same email address as when she joined Rootschat. To contact by pm click on her user name edmonds, top left, in one of her posts in this thread and from the drop down menu click on Send PM.
Good luck
crisane