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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Newcom3 on Monday 13 February 12 14:55 GMT (UK)
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Hi, trying to trace any photos, records and personal info on Maynards factory in North London near Stamford Hill from 1890`s to the 1950`s. My Grandfather worked there during this time also 2 of my aunts.It was run by the Maynard family and they moved the factory from Islington some time in the 1890s. :)
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Hi Newcom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maynards
The Wikipedia entry for Maynards says that Charles & Tom Maynard started making sweets in the kitchen of their home in Stamford Hill in 1880. Says in 1906 they moved to a factory in Vale Rd, Haringey..a picture of which can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7382107@N04/1418276508/
Dazey
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Here's another one.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Maynards_Harringay_Factory.jpg)
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My MIL's mum worked there just after WW1. She had the rather exotic name of Ruth Cleopatra Stirling.....she's a family mystery, even my MIL knows very little about her as she wouldn't talk about her past.
I only found out she worked at Maynards after I applied to Harrods for her work details. She had worked at Harrods during WW1. Harrods archivist kindly sent me what they had which included a note to say her references were to be sent to Maynards.
Does anyone know if Maynards have an archive and if so where?
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Weren't Maynards taken over by Cadbury or was Maynard's Wine Gums a different company. If so they are now owned by Kraft but any archives may still be with the remains of Cadbury in this country.
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Hi thanks for all the comments and photo. Sorry about the delay in replying but Ive been away.
Maynards has changed hands several times since the 1960s, but they were the company that invented Wine gums. My grandfather said that he and Mr Maynard (never said which one) were the ones who started them. I know he had an important job in the factory as he was a sugar boiler.That entailed boiling the different sugar mixtures to get the correct consistency for the different sweets. Whether he did invent wine gums or not he certainly brought plenty of "mis-shapes" home for us to have.I dont think the factory is there now, but I havent be to that part of London since a child. I hope there are still some archives around as I would like to see them. :) Jan
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Between 1972 and 1986 I worked for Zodiac Toys, a retail chain of 80+ branches which were a division of Maynards. I have copies of the Maynards company Newsletter and during the '80s it contained a history of Maynards in serial form. Unfortunately Maynards were taken over before it was completed, but I have the copies that contain all the early years of the company up to 1960. When I have a moment I'll scan the pages and post a link here so that anyone interested can read them.
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Here is the link to a 'History of Maynards'
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12269599/Maynards%20-%20a%20History.pdf
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Here is the link to a 'History of Maynards'
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12269599/Maynards%20-%20a%20History.pdf
Hello . Hope you didnt mind me downloading the History and thank you very much I wonder whether you can tell me if Mr Maynard had a daughter ? I am advised that my Grandfather's brother ran off with the daughter (I believe it was daughter ?) and they either got married or lived together in a house in Weymouth Dorset.
Thanks
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hi
Have you any idea of the dates of the "runaway event" taking place?
R
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hi
Have you any idea of the dates of the "runaway event" taking place?
R
Hi. Some time around 1930/40's "ish" am trying to get more precise info. Apparentyly my Granduncle had around 15 shops (I believe Maynard ones ) around the South Coast ,Weymouth,Bournemouth etc. From what I know the House they lived in was at 31 or 35 Greenhill Weymouth with a green roof (its still there) and her name might have been Doris Maynard . Thats about all I know at moment but would be great if anyone knows more.
Thanks
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Hi I didnt realise any other people were interested in Maynards, and yes there was a daughter as my aunts worked with her in the factory. I have some photos of her but unfortunately they`re somewhere in the loft (where most things end up when not needed). Ill try and find them if anyone wants to see her. She was very pretty, and my aunts were her best friends. Both of them were born in the early 1900`s, I think she would be about the same age, so I think late 1920`s early 30`s is more likely for her to have run off.
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Hi I didnt realise any other people were interested in Maynards, and yes there was a daughter as my aunts worked with her in the factory. I have some photos of her but unfortunately they`re somewhere in the loft (where most things end up when not needed). Ill try and find them if anyone wants to see her. She was very pretty, and my aunts were her best friends. Both of them were born in the early 1900`s, I think she would be about the same age, so I think late 1920`s early 30`s is more likely for her to have run off.
Hello . Very interesting. My Grand Uncle was born in 1905/6 . I am not to sure of the correct story but he was connected somehow with Maynards in the Weymouth/Bournmouth /South Coast area and I dont know if these 15 shops were his but I think so . I am still trying to pin down the full story but I believe the daughter may have been called "Doris" but not too certain. Apparently my Grand Uncle was a bit of a philanderer . Would be very interested to know more about what you know
that might tie up with my Grand Uncle .If you manage to find your photos then that would be great.
Thanks
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Hi Found one photo of the daughter but her name was Dinah, according to my mum`s memory, as its written on the photo. My mother is dead now so Ive no way of telling if its correct. I also have a photo of Mr Maynard. again not which one .Im going to try and find the family on Ancestry, let you know what I find.
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Hi back again with some good news and some bad! Bad is that I couldnt find a Dinah Maynard at all, the good news is that Charles Riley Maynard had 2 daughters Agnes( 1884) and Frances Mabel(1892).After re-reading the excellent download of the history of Maynards, only Mabel is mentioned, so there isnt much more I can add. There was several Frances M Maynards in the records of marriages as well as a death in Chichester in 1982.
Its possible that the photo is of Frances, and funnily enough my mothers name was Mabel (1911). Could she have been named after her as it seems she prefered to be called Mabel instead of Frances.The Maymards tended to use their second name. Charles Gordon, Joseph Douglas were two. I think the other photo is of either Charles Riley or his son Chas Gordon. I found the family in the1891 to 1911 censuses. Before that Chas Riley was living with his father Riley and mother Ann. According to the History, his brother Tom had little to do with the business and moved to South Africa. As far as I can tell they didnt have any shops in Weymouth, but in Brighton and around that area. Hope thats been of some help
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Hello
Thanks very much for the info. I am not able to get a complete picture of my Grand Uncles past but what I understand is that he had about 14/15 shops on the South Coast area although not sure about in Weymouth. He lived with the Maynard lady at 35 Greenhill, Weymouth. I looked up that address on Land Registry and all I found that was not modern so far was,quote;
A Conveyance of the land in this title and other land
dated 15 May 1925 made between (1) The Right Honourable Seymour
Edward Frederic Earl of Wilton (The Sixth Earl) (2) Alan Lowther
Grant and George Henry Drummond (Trustees) and (3) Elizabeth
Hawkins (Purchaser) contains covenants details of which are set
out in the schedule of restrictive covenants hereto.
I believe my Grand Uncle may well have been a Chaffeur to the Maynards at some point from what his niece (my mum) has told me. Anyway appreciate your information thanks and will post if any more comes to light from my side.
regards
Hi back again with some good news and some bad! Bad is that I couldnt find a Dinah Maynard at all, the good news is that Charles Riley Maynard had 2 daughters Agnes( 1884) and Frances Mabel(1892).After re-reading the excellent download of the history of Maynards, only Mabel is mentioned, so there isnt much more I can add. There was several Frances M Maynards in the records of marriages as well as a death in Chichester in 1982.
Its possible that the photo is of Frances, and funnily enough my mothers name was Mabel (1911). Could she have been named after her as it seems she prefered to be called Mabel instead of Frances.The Maymards tended to use their second name. Charles Gordon, Joseph Douglas were two. I think the other photo is of either Charles Riley or his son Chas Gordon. I found the family in the1891 to 1911 censuses. Before that Chas Riley was living with his father Riley and mother Ann. According to the History, his brother Tom had little to do with the business and moved to South Africa. As far as I can tell they didnt have any shops in Weymouth, but in Brighton and around that area. Hope thats been of some help
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I'm trying to find out the relationship with the Maynards and my own family. My grandmother said that she remembered going to visit an aunt and finding her sons were making sweets in the kitchen. This would have been before the invention of the Wine Gums themselves. I understand that the family ran a confectioners shop in East London, making many of the sweets themselves. At that time, my grandmothers name was Kate Elfreda (sometimes spelt Elfrida) Speller, born 1870 and later married to Edward Lawrence Burt.
Many thanks
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Hi
My mum who is now 95 was brought up in Maynard cottage before they moved to the flat over the garage in Vale Road. My grandad starting working for the first Mr Maynard when he was 14 years old driving Mr Maynard around in his horse and carriage, later Mr Maynard bought a car and he became his chauffeur, until eventually becoming the manager of Maynard garage.
My grandads name was Fred Spellerberg and worked for Maynard all his working life when he eventually retired The then Mr Maynard bought a flat that my nan and grandad lived in for the rest of their lives.
My mum has many stories and photographs that she would love to share, she would be more than happy to answer any questions that anyone has.
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A warm welcome to rootschat :).
Great you can offer information, perhaps the original posters will get notification of your post; when you have made 2 more posts you can exchange information & email addresses off forum by personal message.
ADDED: newcom3 was last online in Oct 2012, mofid42 in Mar 2016 & doingsomeresearch in Jun 2012 so they don't seem to be active on rootschat at the moment.
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Hello I'm aware this was a very long time ago and you may not even be on here any more but here goes! The photograph of the gentleman is of Charles Riley Maynard 1856-1926 who founded Maynard's Limited (confectioners) in 1896 and managed it until his death in 1926. He was my Great Great Grandfather and as far as I am aware, he had three sons and no daughters, Alfred Amos in 1884 who was Jt Managing Director, Joseph Douglas in 1902 Jt Managing Director of Maynard's and My Great, great Grandfather Charles Gordon who was the confectioner that invented wine gums. As I understand it, the family were strict methodists and he got into terrible trouble with Charles Riley when he took him the idea, as he had to convince him that they didn't in fact contain alcohol!
Charles Gordon had a son (My Grandfather who passed away recently at 96) and two daughters Diana and Valerie, neither of whom eloped as far as I am aware. The picture of the lady does look very like my Great Aunt Dan Dan though, so I am trying to find a picture of her to compare to yours. I am intrigued by the story and would love to know more!
My Great Grandfather's brother both had a daughter each, Judy and Joan born in 1918. I have no information about Judy but Joan married Conte Georgio de Galleani from Argentina. If you have found any more on the story I would love to hear it! Thanks Charlie
Hi back again with some good news and some bad! Bad is that I couldnt find a Dinah Maynard at all, the good news is that Charles Riley Maynard had 2 daughters Agnes( 1884) and Frances Mabel(1892).After re-reading the excellent download of the history of Maynards, only Mabel is mentioned, so there isnt much more I can add. There was several Frances M Maynards in the records of marriages as well as a death in Chichester in 1982.
Its possible that the photo is of Frances, and funnily enough my mothers name was Mabel (1911). Could she have been named after her as it seems she prefered to be called Mabel instead of Frances.The Maymards tended to use their second name. Charles Gordon, Joseph Douglas were two. I think the other photo is of either Charles Riley or his son Chas Gordon. I found the family in the1891 to 1911 censuses. Before that Chas Riley was living with his father Riley and mother Ann. According to the History, his brother Tom had little to do with the business and moved to South Africa. As far as I can tell they didnt have any shops in Weymouth, but in Brighton and around that area. Hope thats been of some help
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This is such great information, I had saved the Maynard info posted earlier thankfully as the link doesn't seem to work now. My great-great grandfather was William Maynard, brother of Charles Riley Maynard.I have a copy of a Maynard family history compiled by Edwin Post Maynard Jr in 1971living in Brooklyn New York. They had hired two genealogists to help connect the Maynards in New York with the Maynards in London. I wonder if I might be able to track down more living desendents. I certainly would love to help with what I have.
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Charles was also my great-great-grandfather, so I think I must be related to both of you :) Charles Gordon was my great uncle, Agnes was my great grandmother.
I have done a fair bit of research on the line going back from Charles via the Spellers but the line stops at around 1740. Would be happy to share the data with both of you if you would like.
This is such great information, I had saved the Maynard info posted earlier thankfully as the link doesn't seem to work now. My great-great grandfather was William Maynard, brother of Charles Riley Maynard.I have a copy of a Maynard family history compiled by Edwin Post Maynard Jr in 1971living in Brooklyn New York. They had hired two genealogists to help connect the Maynards in New York with the Maynards in London. I wonder if I might be able to track down more living desendents. I certainly would love to help with what I have.
Hello I'm aware this was a very long time ago and you may not even be on here any more but here goes! The photograph of the gentleman is of Charles Riley Maynard 1856-1926 who founded Maynard's Limited (confectioners) in 1896 and managed it until his death in 1926. He was my Great Great Grandfather and as far as I am aware, he had three sons and no daughters, Alfred Amos in 1884 who was Jt Managing Director, Joseph Douglas in 1902 Jt Managing Director of Maynard's and My Great, great Grandfather Charles Gordon who was the confectioner that invented wine gums. As I understand it, the family were strict methodists and he got into terrible trouble with Charles Riley when he took him the idea, as he had to convince him that they didn't in fact contain alcohol!
Charles Gordon had a son (My Grandfather who passed away recently at 96) and two daughters Diana and Valerie, neither of whom eloped as far as I am aware. The picture of the lady does look very like my Great Aunt Dan Dan though, so I am trying to find a picture of her to compare to yours. I am intrigued by the story and would love to know more!
My Great Grandfather's brother both had a daughter each, Judy and Joan born in 1918. I have no information about Judy but Joan married Conte Georgio de Galleani from Argentina. If you have found any more on the story I would love to hear it! Thanks Charlie
Hi back again with some good news and some bad! Bad is that I couldnt find a Dinah Maynard at all, the good news is that Charles Riley Maynard had 2 daughters Agnes( 1884) and Frances Mabel(1892).After re-reading the excellent download of the history of Maynards, only Mabel is mentioned, so there isnt much more I can add. There was several Frances M Maynards in the records of marriages as well as a death in Chichester in 1982.
Its possible that the photo is of Frances, and funnily enough my mothers name was Mabel (1911). Could she have been named after her as it seems she prefered to be called Mabel instead of Frances.The Maymards tended to use their second name. Charles Gordon, Joseph Douglas were two. I think the other photo is of either Charles Riley or his son Chas Gordon. I found the family in the1891 to 1911 censuses. Before that Chas Riley was living with his father Riley and mother Ann. According to the History, his brother Tom had little to do with the business and moved to South Africa. As far as I can tell they didnt have any shops in Weymouth, but in Brighton and around that area. Hope thats been of some help
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This is such great information, I had saved the Maynard info posted earlier thankfully as the link doesn't seem to work now. My great-great grandfather was William Maynard, brother of Charles Riley Maynard.I have a copy of a Maynard family history compiled by Edwin Post Maynard Jr in 1971living in Brooklyn New York. They had hired two genealogists to help connect the Maynards in New York with the Maynards in London. I wonder if I might be able to track down more living desendents. I certainly would love to help with what I have.
I forgot to say Jackie- I would absolutely love to see what you have from the family history! :)
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Glad to see this topic resurrected. Unfortunately I have arrived too late for the "Maynards a History" document that was linked earlier. Would it be possible for someone who does have it to post it or forward it, please?
I am working on a tree for a friend, who is related to these Maynards. She is not a direct descendent, her ancestor is Charles Riley Maynard's uncle John Maynard (b. 1820).
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Hi
I know this thread was from a while back - however I’ve only just found this search as it came up when looking for Maynards Sweet Factory - so worth a shot to see if anyone else comes across it!
I’m tracing my Nans history and as quite a secretive woman - it’s not been easy!!
Her name was Doris Maynard - whilst she wasn’t related to the Maynards - she did work in the North London factory! My mum always remembers her saying how people often thought she was related to them due to the surname and I’m pretty sure she would have played to this!
Her sister Edna Maynard, also worked there and apparently was nearly scalped when her hair got caught in the rollers! I’m guessing they would have likely worked there before WW2!
Does anyone know what happened to the factory during the war? Did it change its operation due to rationing and the war effort etc?