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Title: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 03:45 GMT (UK)
John and Rachel BOOTH arrived in Victoria in 1853 on the 'James Brown'  (I think ) - bringing their son John with them.  Rachel's maiden name was BRUERTON.   
They came from Warwickshire/Staffordshire.  I've managed to get back a couple of generations in UK before hitting brickwalls.

their family:

Fanny        1849 - 1849
 
John          1850 - 1895    m Blanche Buckingham PERCY  1875 in North Melbourne - got them sort of sorted.

MaryAnn    1854 - 1924   m John Thomas DALEY 1876 Victoria somewhere.    John DALEY was a teacher.

I'd like to try and fill in this family of DALEY. 

Children all had very distinctive names, and I've done some research and managed to fill in some of the info - they were living at Yea.   Some of them are buried at Yea but I haven't seen the graves - I believe they are unmarked.

DALEY children

Elsa Marie Bruerton                 1877 - 1952

Zoe Thirza Curzon                   1879 - 1972

Eric Momford Curzon               1882 - 1956

Oswy Irving Curzon        6 Jun 1884 -

Rand Orm                   23 Mar 1889 -

Esme Alifaire               27 Jul 1891 -

Roslyn Alva                   3 Nov 1892 - 1969

Mervyn Ainslie Curzon    7 Oct 1895

Olive Freya Bruerton     20 Jun 1896

Any help would be greatly appreciated please - I've just checked and I don't have any more info re marriages etc.     :D

Wiggy      :)

   
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 03:52 GMT (UK)
Actually their arrival is a little problematic as the family I've found looks right  - providing the transcribed got Esther and Rachel mistaken - only trouble is they are on different pages in the records - does this matter - I have searched the PROV original record copies at length,  and can find no others which would fit the bill!  also ages are out a bit  - a big bit really - so if anyone can help me clear this matter up - great!! 

The record I found was as Assisted Migrants!

Wiggy 
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 03:59 GMT (UK)
Oswry Irving had another name "Curzon" DALEY

There are many entries in the electrol roles for him.

In 1919 he is living with Eva and Lorna Amelia in Moonee Ponds

He's on his own in Moonee Ponds in 1963

Looks like he married Eva HAYLES in 1908 in Victoria.

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ted - Electoral rolls coming up!    ;)

And Trove . . . .

Wiggy    :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:09 GMT (UK)
Rand Orm also has Curson as a middle name. He is also on the electrol roles

Looks like he married Daisy Adeline Stevens in 1916 in Sydney NSW
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:13 GMT (UK)
Esme Alifaire had a child called Kenneth William John THRELFALL b 1930 d 1936 in Wangaratta. His father was Robert George THRELFALL

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:16 GMT (UK)
Care to bet that their father's mother's maiden name was Curzon?    ;)   ;D


I did have that extra name written in my files - don't know why I didn't have it in my spiel - but thanks for all info!!
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:17 GMT (UK)
This is Esme Alifaire Threlfall's death: 1974 Heidelberg, Victoria  age 83. Father: John Tho DALEY mother Mary Ann BRERETON # 8933


Red post: No problems Wiggy.  ;)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:22 GMT (UK)
You are a fount of info - thanks Ted!

Wiggy 
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:24 GMT (UK)
Roslyn Alva also has Curzon in her name.

Looks like she didn't marry. She was a Postal Officer.


Red post: no problems Wiggy - its more fun than my ancient brick walls  ;D
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:27 GMT (UK)
Mervyn Ainsley married Amelia Campain Lorna PRESS in 1916 in Victoria.

and he died in 1952 in Heidelberg Victoria

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:32 GMT (UK)
Olive Freya Bruerton DALEY stayed in Yea and wasn't married in 1949. She was a dress maker.

Cant find her death yet though.
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:36 GMT (UK)
Here is a little article on Oswy and Olive in Sunday School

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/59951232?searchTerm=Olive daley&searchLimits=

Olive also organised a St John's Ambulance course for 30 ladies in Yea.


Search for DALEY in the Yea Cronicle. There are lots of little articles on the family
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 24 February 12 04:38 GMT (UK)
Death Notices and Funeral notice for Mervyn Daley

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23182768

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:40 GMT (UK)
Eva disappears from the E R between 1936 and 1937 - so maybe there is a death there somewhere - or she departed . . . .  Ronald John t appeared this year

Have a son for Oswy now and another female in the house 1937 - either son's wife or daughter for Oswy.   Her name is Jean Campbell, and she appeared in 1937 roll
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:43 GMT (UK)
Mervyn fought in WW1
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 24 February 12 04:45 GMT (UK)
Death notice for Mary Ann Daley in 1924 in Terang.  
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2038928

I don't think it mentions Eva

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:46 GMT (UK)
Oops!    Eva has re-appeared in 1942 - and Ronald and Jean have gone!    Running description of the household going on here!   ;D ;D


Hi Ros - thanks for that -  ;)   Going to have my work cut out slotting all this info into the right departments - thanks girls!!    :D
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 04:54 GMT (UK)
Will do that Yea search Ted - good idea

 - I've noticed it is in Trove now so - good thinking!   being a local school teacher is probably good for getting your name in the paper - why didn't I think of that before!   ::)

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 04:56 GMT (UK)
Eva Daley died in 1957 in Moon (presumable Moonee Ponds) Victoria aged 75. Father Thomas Hayles Mother: Haria Guthrie Reg no 9211
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 04:58 GMT (UK)
Here's the Daley-Threlfall marriage.....


Esmi Alifaire DALEY married Robt Geo THRELFALL in 1914
Ref = 6607R


Dee   :)

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:00 GMT (UK)
And the ref for the marriage of Mervyn Ainsley Cruzon DALEY and Lorna Amelia Campain PRESS in 1916 is 10848R.


Dee   :)

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 05:10 GMT (UK)
Hello Dee, Fancy meeting you here!!   :D

Just found out Oswy Daley was living just around the corner from us before he died!  Small world!
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 05:13 GMT (UK)
Dee,

Do you know if the R means Registry office - or what??

Wiggy   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:21 GMT (UK)
I'll see if I can check, Wiggy.

Eric Momford Cur DALEY aged 75 died in 1956 at BRIG
Father =John Thomas DALEY & Mother = Mary Ann  BOOTH
Ref = 8002


Dee   :)

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 05:36 GMT (UK)
Wonderful what you can learn from death notices isn't it! 

Olive married Mr Jones, lived in Yea, and Elsa married Mr Ball and lived in Tasmania!

It does help to have handle on things before searching the papers though!

I wonder if the Booths could have entered Aus via another port other than Victoria - or do you think I've probably got it right even though their names and ages are out!   

Wiggy 
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:36 GMT (UK)
Zoe Thirza DALEY aged 92 died in 1972 at PRES
Father = John Thomas DALEY & Mother = Mary Ann  BOOTH
Ref = 13678


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:40 GMT (UK)
Rosslyn Alva Cur DALEY aged 76 died in 1969 at YEA
Father = John Thomas DALEY & Mother = Mary Ann  BOOTH
Ref = 21317


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:43 GMT (UK)
Raud Orm Cruzon DALEY aged 68 died in 1957 at PRES
Father = John Thomas DALEY & Mother = Mary Ann  UNKNOWN
Ref = 7201


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: majm on Friday 24 February 12 05:44 GMT (UK)
Dee,

Do you know if the R means Registry office - or what??

Wiggy   :)

I am not VIC savvy, but I think it means the entry has been REVISED at some date after the initial entry.  I think I read that somewhere on the Aussie Board here at RChat .   It would be worthwhile looking at the online index on one of the commercial websites.


Cheers,  JM  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:46 GMT (UK)
Oswy Irvine Curz DALEY aged 95 died in 1979 at MACL
Father = John Thomas DALEY & Mother = Mary Ann  BOOTH
Ref = 19481


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 05:49 GMT (UK)
Ref number for Mervyn Ainsley Curzon DALEY’s death is 7048


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 05:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks JM - I was wondering if it was registry office or something

- Why would one revise a marriage I ask myself!!   ;)  ::)

Wiggy    :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 05:53 GMT (UK)
Eric Momford is with a Jessie DALEY in 1936.



He married Jessie TAYLOR in 1910 in Victoria #1486
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: majm on Friday 24 February 12 06:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks JM - I was wondering if it was registry office or something

- Why would one revise a marriage I ask myself!!   ;)  ::)

Wiggy    :)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,272909.msg1569371.html  REPLY 11

 ......  I can think of spelling errors, or names in wrong order, or wrong names indexed etc !  The hired help at the BDM office may have had no local knowledge of the locations, family surnames etc.  or errrr..... like in my cousin's case .... HE had given the wrong names for BOTH his parents.....  His bride had also given wrong names for her parents....   Huuuuummmmmm .....  eeeerrrrrrrr .....  They were confused .... shhhhh .... it was WWII and they were both in uniform.....  It was sorted when they both returned to civilian life .....  I could add HE was an Officer, aged 30, and she was no spring chicken either....   And neither had been married previously ....  HE initially cited his paternal grandparents .....  I have not ever figured out how the people she had initially cited were connected to her.   But of course that happened in NSW, ummm.... Sydney Registry Office.   

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 06:03 GMT (UK)
Just a summary of the things we found (we found more this is the basics)

Elsa Marie Bruerton                 1877 - 1952           m Mr Ball

Zoe Thirza Curzon                   1879 – 1972               didn’t marry

Eric Momford Curzon               1882 - 1956                 m Jessie TAYLOR 1910

Oswy Irving Curzon        6 Jun 1884 – 1975                m Eva HAYLES 1908

Rand Orm Curzon       23 Mar 1889 - 1957               m Daisy Adeline STEVENS 1916

Esme Alifaire               27 Jul 1891 – 1974              m Robert George THRELFALL in ?
 Roslyn Alva                   3 Nov 1892 – 1969           didn’t marry

Mervyn Ainslie Curzon    7 Oct 1895 – 1952          m Amelia Campain Lorna PRESS in 1916

Olive Freya Bruerton     20 Jun 1896 –     ??              wasn’t married in 1949 m Mr Jones

Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:06 GMT (UK)
You are all wonderful!!

Please can anyone see a death for John Thomas Daley - he's the father of this lot - I don't think i've missed it in the avalanche of good info.

He seems to disappear off the Rolls after the 1924 roll - but there are rather a lot of John Thomas Daleys and they can't all be he - I don't think he was omnipresent!


Ahh well JM - when you put it like that . ;D ;D . . .   that's lateral thinking for you!!   but there were rather a lot of them in this family, and others we've investigated  -  ;) ;)   I take your point though!!   ;D

Thanks for the summary Ted -

- Olive married Mr Jones sometime after 1949 and before 1952 - she is Mrs Jones at Mervyn's death!   
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:09 GMT (UK)
And while you are there JM - point me to incoming passengers to other states - if the family I found on the 'assisted'  list isn't correct!   Please   :D 

Don't do that - I have found how to do it - still can't find them in NSW though.  Not in the narrow time frame of 1851 - 1854     Well there is one in Jun 1851 - would they have time to be in the census in UK before catching the ship?  and their baby doesn't seem to be with them - then they had to get around to Melbourne - Nah . . . . ::)    :-\
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: majm on Friday 24 February 12 06:16 GMT (UK)
NSW State Records Office

1.  Find surname on the keyname search then scroll through the list, find year and ship name http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/ (and it includes Port Philip to about 1853)

2.  then try  http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316 and JUMP straight in and scroll through etc

or try http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/

for QLD http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp and remember that apart from steerage issues and lack of names etc .... the Qld records were badly affected by the 1893 floods.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 06:17 GMT (UK)
Can't find a death for John Thomas 192o or after......there's a few Johns but no idea which could possibly be him at this stage.

Interesting point though......I put just the name Curzon as a given name into one of the databases.....and got names with the surname of BRUTON.....not far removed from BRUERTON.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:18 GMT (UK)
Oh gee thanks  for that  JM  - will do just those things!

Dee - that's odd   I will have to do a trawl through the papers and see what I can see.  Might start with Yea!   ;)

Wiggy   
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 06:27 GMT (UK)
DALEY. -On the 24th September (suddenly),   
at Kerang, Mary Ann, relict of the late John Thomas Daley, Yea; loved mother of Elsa, (Mrs. Ball), Zoe, Eric, Oswy, Olive, Orm, Esme (Mrs. Threlfall), Roslyn, and Mervyn, aged 70 years.


The Argus - 25 Sept 1924
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:38 GMT (UK)
I have that paper clip - didn't notice the 'relic of' though - thanks for that Ted!  So also in 1924  - if he was there for the Electoral roll p or had they forgotten to update it! 

Wonder when the election was that year!

I will pursue the matter - good find   ;)

Do ya think we'd better get dinner??   ::) :-\ ;D ;D

Wiggy    ;)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 06:47 GMT (UK)
Lani says yes!

Can't find a death for John Thomas in the earlier database either.   :-\


Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:49 GMT (UK)
Yeee Haaa  got it!!!


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kfm/

18th July 1924

Right,    dinner! 
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: tedscout on Friday 24 February 12 06:50 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find his death but then I find the newspapers are better for deaths in more recent years.


And Wiggy - get someone else to cook  ;) ;D ;) I am  8)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 06:52 GMT (UK)
Unless I run down to the shops for F&C, there is no one else - but it will be salad as usual - 'cos I love it - so no cooking!!    ;) ;)

Thanks for you help everyone!   ;)  Might find their children later - much later!! another day even!!   I went to school with the grand daughter of one of these people - I wonder which one!!   ;)  Can't ask her - don't know where she is!
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 24 February 12 06:58 GMT (UK)
Lucky you, Ted!

Found the death....note the spelling!   ::)

Jno Thos DALY aged 75 died at YEA in 1924.
Father = Jas Jno Daly & Mother = Mary  MCPHEE
Ref = 12647



Dee   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 08:04 GMT (UK)
Don't make it easy do they, Dee!!    Like the news paper announcements - easy once you have somewhere to home in on the which!

Thanks for that!
Title: Re: BOOTH John and Rachel - in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 24 February 12 10:12 GMT (UK)
Must say John Thomas Daley was a very busy lad in Yea and as Ted says there are lots of references to his activities - great stuff Ted.

 He was headmaster of the school and lay-reader in the parish as well as secretary to various clubs!

That's enough for tonight!

Wiggy 
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 01 March 12 23:41 GMT (UK)
Little bit more tracking on this family

-  really BOOTHS this time.    ;D  John Booth married Blanche Buckingham Percy in 1875 reg 2642  -  their family :-

I have been looking and looking but cannot find several cert reg numbers.  Got most of them I think   ;)

Marriage Marion Rachel Booth 1879 - 1953 to Walter Henry Holmes           Quite possibly in Horsham - and quite possibly later than one would expect.   

Marriage Percy Rupert Booth  to Eliza Northousen  1922 Melbourne I think.  Don't know about children here.

   "         Stanley Bruerton Buck'ham Booth to Violet Amy  ?   ??year
(Stan b 1884 - 1964  - had four children first being John - ? year.)



Also looking for
death of Esca Bruerton Booth                 1876 - 1956 Wangaratta Victoria

  "         Alice Rose Booth/Darnell            1878 - 1959 in Perth   WA

   "       Marion Rachel Holmes                 1879 - 1953  Horsham Vic 

  "       Bessie Louise Buck/ham Cann       1882 - 1962  Perth     WA

Thanks folks!

One question - is the number on the marriage certificate signed in the church register the same one that goes on the state reg??   OK sounds a dumb query doesn't it.   ::)

Wiggy      :)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 00:05 GMT (UK)
The first time I can find Marion with Walter at Corrangorach  is 1942 - in 1949 there is with them Walter Kevin Holmes -  maybe a nephew???  Don't think they had children! 

Farming - possibly property name. 
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 02 March 12 00:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Wiggy,
   Alice Rose Darnell died on 22/12/1929 age 49 and is buried at Karrakatta cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00040581

   WA BDM has death registered in 1930 reg no 2 Alice R Darnell

cheers,
   Ros
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 02 March 12 00:12 GMT (UK)
And
  Bessie Louise Buckingham Cann died 1/12/1968 age 86 and is buried at Karrakatta cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00135850

WA BDM has reg no 4239
CANN Bessie Louise Buckingham  Father John Mother Blache B female age 86

cheers,
   Ros
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 00:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ros - much appreciated!

Last mention of Marion as booth is 1937 - so married between 1937 and '42.
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 00:19 GMT (UK)
Just been looking - I have the birth regs for those two

- Alice was two years older and Bessie 6 years younger!!   Someone didn't know what they were saying when they registered those two!!   ::) ;D ;D   not that it matters one iota!!  Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 00:39 GMT (UK)
I've found Marion's death reg  - and guess what - her age is wrong too - i think those Booth girls were all shading their ages for one reason or another!!   :o
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: cando on Friday 02 March 12 01:42 GMT (UK)
Haven't read all the thread ....so...

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~kerangfh/  have copies of the burial register, and this
has also been indexed- not available online though.


Marriage in Vic
BOOTH Marion Rachel
HOLMES Walter Henry
1941  Reg#7231

Death
HOLMES Walter Henry
Father William Henry  Mother Sarah  LITTLEWOOD
At Horsham  71 years  1959  Reg#27875

No MI for Marion or Walter at Horsham but my resource does not include the Lawn Area of the cemetery.

Connangorach is a rural locality [it may be the name of a Parish  - similar to the area where I live and simply named after the Parish of ****  County of *****  No gazetted township]  I notice that Marion's electoral roll listing is Ballina Park, Connangorach.

Thomas Sherlock HOLMES is Wm H's brother.

It would appear Walter was married previously.  I suggest you search Trove - there a number of news items including the death of his first wife and son.  Marriage of another son in 1950 - son of Walter of Ballina Park and the late Mrs HOLMES.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0knj/

Cheers
Cando


Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 01:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks Cando - so maybe Walter Kevin Holmes living with Marion and Walter Henry is a son from a first marriage -   I'll go Troving -  ;)   

 A troving , a troving,
 I go some more a troving  . . . . . . etc      :D :D  but first I'll go walking in this beautiful day!


Thanks for the help!

Wiggy 
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: cando on Friday 02 March 12 02:07 GMT (UK)
Tribute to Marion
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0knn/

Wiggy have a trawl through the Horsham Times - lots of info on the family.  Walter and Marion moved to into Horsham in 1950.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 05:04 GMT (UK)
Yep     ;D ;D

Managed to find first wife's death, name and births of children, death of son aged 17, marriage of other son in 1950.   Info about Walter's 2 brothers killed in action - very very informative.

- been doing that half the afternoon - lots of mentions there aren't there     :D- terrible year was 1937 for Walter - lost wife and son in two months!   :'( :'(  He grew good wool apparently!!   ;)

I've seen a photo of Marion - (which I actually think is probably my grandmother, from that paper I think) -  feeding a lamb - not sure how to access it - I've looked through most of the mentions.   I must confess I missed a couple of years  - bet it was in those years - but do you have to do something special in the looking to get to photos??

Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 08:16 GMT (UK)
Don't ask me why 'cos I don't know    ::) :-\ :-\

 - but to day I've found two marriages which I swear weren't evident yesterday

- anyhow I now have  the date and ref # for Percy  Eliza Booth marriage and Stanley B.B Booth marriage.

Also Marion now thanks to Cando.

Deaths  - now have all  Esca - has just turned up !!   

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes records are there and sometimes they aren't?   I isn't just me is it??

Thanks to Ros  and Cando for those.

Wiggy   :)

 
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 02 March 12 08:43 GMT (UK)
Has anyone else noticed that sometimes records are there and sometimes they aren't?
Absolutely Wiggy!  :)
(perhaps we forget to remove a filter from a previous search  ;))

For illustrated articles on trove, there is a filter there on the left where you can choose "Illustrated" and it then gives sub-categories of Photo and illustration.

cheers,
   Ros
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 09:40 GMT (UK)
I'm looking and looking - and i can't see where it says illustrated.  I found one place that says images and clicked on that - but then I can't put in the years I want to look -  :-\ :-\ :-\

And now my eyes have had enough for the day =- so I will try again tomorrow!!!   I might have an inspiration in the night!!!


Thanks Ros.   ;) ;)

Wiggy    :)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: rosball on Friday 02 March 12 23:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Wiggy,
   
   I suspect that you couldn't see illustrated down the left if you were searching for "marion booth" or "sister booth" or "marion holmes" within Horsham Times as there were no illustrated articles. :(

  Try searching for "marion booth"~2 across all newspapers and then down the left you will see
  Title
     all the newspapers
   Category
     artcles or ads or family notices
   Illustrated
   Decade
   Word Count
There are 4 that are illustrated.  I'm afraid that none of them is relevant - seems to be a short fiction story  :( 

cheers,
   Ros


   
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 02 March 12 23:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ros
- I will get there later and will try your method!!   I did try putting in pictures before asking for a person - but will try again - I will try to find the photo i have and scan it to show you - might be from the Argus maybe!

- I'm making fig jam and pickling tomatoes and cucumbers this morning!! 

  Change from hunting Dead people!!    ;D ;D

Wiggy
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: jdaley on Saturday 23 June 12 13:39 BST (UK)
Roslyn Alva Curson Daley was my grandfather, I may have info for you
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 23 June 12 21:37 BST (UK)
Hello jdaley and welcome to Rootschat!  A far distant relative comes to the surface!   ;)

Are you doing family history  - or did you just Google and happen here?   ;)   It is a really good and friendly site and lots of help available - as well as finding people who have knowledge.

Mary Ann Booth/Daley was my Great grandfather's sister - that's where the connection lies.  So we have common rellies some way back, with John and Rachel Booth.

I would love to share any information you have!  And ask a couple of questions! - But I have learnt something already - I'd assumed Roslyn Daley was a female - maybe why i was having trouble in the first place.     We will need to swap information via email or private message I suspect - so you will need to make two more posts on Rootschat before we can do that.   Just comments here - or somewhere.

Looking forward to making contact.

Wiggy      :)

Wiggy
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: jdaley on Sunday 24 June 12 01:08 BST (UK)
I have studied family history for a long time, but only looked at the internet recently.
Roslyn was a male, obviously.
He had 4 boys, the last Grahame is still with us.
John Alva Daley m Margaret Elizabeth Charteris  2 b 2 g
Noel xxx m Olive and then xxx adopted b and g
Eric xx m Patricia 1b 2 g
Graham  xxx m Dorothy 2 b

My memory is rusty this morning but I will contact Grahme for more info because he has been tinkering of late.
I had some details about Mary Ann BOOTH
I am happy to use the chat page, it may help somebody else.
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 24 June 12 01:23 BST (UK)
but it gets tricky when you get forward to live people!!   ;) ;)


I went to school with a girl from the Daley clan - and her father was a second cousin, obviously - but I can't work out where Stan fits in - I can mention him as he is now longer with us!   He had a girl and a boy.

Thanks for this info - a little more to add to the branches!   ;)

Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Thursday 25 April 13 08:04 BST (UK)
Esca Bruerton Booth died 3 Jan 1956 at Wangaratta, Death Certificate No.17510
Plot No:469N Section:C.E.1
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 25 April 13 08:10 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your information!!

It is amazing how the information trickles in over the years.    :)  Did you just find the thread or were you looking for something else.  Are you connected?  ;)

Wiggy   :)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Thursday 25 April 13 09:47 BST (UK)
Esca Bruerton Booth died 3 Jan 1956 at Wangaratta reg #17510
Buried 04 Jan 1956  Plot No:469N Section:C.E.1
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: judb on Friday 26 April 13 04:03 BST (UK)
You may have already seen the will for John Thos DALEY, gent, of "Bruerton", Hocking St, Yea, died 18 July 1924. Leaves all in trust for his wife Mary Ann for her lifetime and various bequests to his children after Mary Ann's death.  As we already know, Mary Ann only outlived him by a couple of months.

Mary Anne's will is also digitised - leaves all to be divided among her children

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

Judith
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 26 April 13 05:11 BST (UK)
Thanks judb great stuff, this site is the best  :)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 26 April 13 05:18 BST (UK)
As Frances says - great stuff - thank you!   I did find that will and so was able to sort out a few names -

Frances - do you happen to have any family photos?    I have just the one of Mary Ann as an older woman - what a handsome looking woman she was too.

Wiggy
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 26 April 13 05:34 BST (UK)
sorry Wiggy I don't have any pictures, I visited my husband's Aunt Elsa Legg (Daley) in Queensland last year and asked if she could send me some photos of the Booths and Daleys, she said she would but as yet I haven't received any, but she is old and I guess I won't hold my breath.  :'(
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 26 April 13 06:42 BST (UK)
Any photos of Booths and Daleys would be welcomed thanks :)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 26 April 13 06:48 BST (UK)
Have to say they would be welcomed by me too!!    ;D ;D

I have a few, but not of John Daley or any of his offspring.

Cheers,

Wiggy   ;)
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 26 April 13 06:56 BST (UK)
I have a photo of Mervyn Ainsley Curzon Daley as a young man, but it's not a very good one
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 13 May 22 05:32 BST (UK)
this can't be right maybe a different Walter Henry Holmes ???
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/6268bf11620e7120bfec63ee/record/5c6551704aba80ac31d2786b?q=efamily&givenName=Dudley%20Charles&familyName=HOLMES
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Friday 13 May 22 05:39 BST (UK)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211581451/ann-watkins-holmes
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Friday 13 May 22 08:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information Frances.   This is a bolt from the blue - I haven't looked at this family for many months/years. 

That certainly looks like the correct Walter Henry Holmes doesn't it.  thanks!   :)

Wiggy
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Saturday 14 May 22 03:21 BST (UK)
Olive Freya Bruerton Daley married Thomas Jones 1949 #25658 in Victoria
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Saturday 14 May 22 03:33 BST (UK)
Has anyone got a death date for Olive Freya Bruerton Jones (Daley) please
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Frances Daley on Monday 16 May 22 06:08 BST (UK)
Yay Found her, Olive Jones (Daley) died 19 Jul 1982 Launceston, Tasmania, Australia
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212880165/olive-freia-jones  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BOOTH and DALEY- in Victoria
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 16 May 22 09:51 BST (UK)
Well done you!!  One thing about that family - they used such idiosyncratic names, they stand out from the crowd don't they.    ;)