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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: jaymack on Saturday 25 February 12 21:06 GMT (UK)
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Hello:
I'm interested in the Burchill family that came from Skibbereen, County Cork. The townland is Gorteenalomane. My great grandmother Kate Burchill came to Philadelphia in the 1870s and never returned to Ireland. She eventually helped to bring a brother and three sisters over to Philadelphia, but there was a brother and a sister who stayed home on the family farm in Ireland. In the 1901 Irish Census the Burchill family lists three children in the U.S., but not Kate. They seemed to have lost touch with her, and she with them. I'm interested in tracing the history of the Burchills who remained in Ireland because I'd love to connect with them. Kate had a brother Samuel Burchill (born in 1879) who may have had children. There doesn't seem to be any Irish Census data after 1911, so I can't locate him. Does anybody have advice or tips on a situation like this? Also, I can't find any information on Kate's husband Peter O'Farrell, who my mother says also came from County Cork. Any help would be appreciated it.
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Take a look at the phone book for possible relative: www.eircomphonebook.ie. Be sure to click Residential at top right.
Can you link to the census entry for the family please? Where did Kate and Peter O'Farrell marry - Ireland or the US?
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Here's a link to the 1911 Census: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Castlehaven_South/Gorteenalomane/442433/
Ellen and Hannah left for Philadelphia the next year, leaving Samuel and Nora at home. Kate Burchill married Peter O'Farrell in Philadelphia in 1888. It gets complicated after that, because he used variations of his name on official documents. He's variously listed as Peter J. O'Farrell, Joseph Peter Farrell, Joseph Farrell, and Peter Farrell. His birthdate is around 1870. My mother says his mother was named Rose Guilfoyle, but we don't know the father's name, or where in Ireland they came from. Peter/Joseph Farrell left Kate around 1900 and remarried, but there's not much information about him from that point on. He did have a sister named Delia Farrell Webb, or Welb, who's listed in the U.S. Census of 1900 in Stamford, Connecticut.
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I just took a peak at the Creagh parish tithe applotment, from around 1831 (I will publish a transcription online later this year) and there were the following Burchills in Gurteenalomane:
John & Richard Burchill
Samuel Burchill (with Patrick Harrington)
Samuel Burchell & John Burchill
I am not seeing a Samuel Burchill in civil registration in Skibbereen in 1879 - though there are a few others a few years off. Samuel Burchill birth (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ASamuel~%20%2Bsurname%3ABurchell~%20%2Bbirth_place%3ASkibbereen~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1875-1880~)
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I think this might be Samuel in 1871 - http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ff34250056026
Jaymack, I think your best bet of a living relative is the person listed in the phonebook.
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Burchills still living outside Skib. Also related to me.
Same name you are looking for! Could be a family link!
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I'm not sure we're the same Burchills. Mine are from Gorteenalomane, outside Skibbereen. They owned two farms, but only one is still in the family. I'm related to the people who sold the farm. Going back to an Abraham Burchill, born in 1833. Someone suggested looking them up in the Skib phone directory, but I feel it's hard to explain all this in a phone call. I'd love to make contact first through email.
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It was me who provided the phonebook link but it was to show that there is still someone of that name in that townland rather than any suggestion that you phone them which I too think would be a bit much. In the absence of an email address, I would write a letter...
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I am the great great granddaughter of Samuel Sr. Abraham's brother. Abraham is Samuel 1871's dad. I am related to the remaining Burchills in Skib.
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Thanks for your message! I have a lot of information about my branch of the Burchills, and I would love to exchange information with you. My email address is (*). Thanks again.
John McDonnell
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Hi,
I've done some research and have deduces that infact your Kate and Samuel, are v probably children of Samuel Burchill and Mary Driscoll, my great great grand parents. Their younger son Michael ( my great granddad) inherited the farm, which is still in the family
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I just sent you a personal message with my email address, so we can discuss this in more detail.
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I think that the timing might be out by about ten years but do any of you have a record of Samuel Burchill marrying an O'Leary or Leary from Bawnishal in Castlehaven. I don't have a first name but I think that she was born around 1860 so probably too old. I know that this Samuel Burchill came from around Skibbereen but I don't know the townland
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I am also related to the Burchills in Skib.
To be fair it's such a small population and until late such big families that I seem to be related to more there than in the UK.
It is a wonderful place full of fantastic people.
Try looking around Rineen
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I see an Abraham Burchill mentioned here. I have just noticed that when my grand-aunt was baptised in Castlehaven Church in 1878, one of the sponsors was an Abraham Burchill. Also when my grand-aunt's sister was baptised two years later, one of her sponsors was a Mary-Anne Burchill. I must dig a bit deeper.
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I think that the Abraham Burchill being mentioned in this thread from Gorteenalomane married a Honorah Leary. If I am correct, does anybody know where she came from. My information by hearsay was that my great grandfather's sister (whose name I do not know) married a Sam Burchill.
However when I look at the baptism records for the children of Abraham and Norah, the sponsors match my family members. Just wondering if my information was wrong and Norah might be my great-grandfather's sister
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Re Burchill, Gorteenalomane: I live in Gorteenalomane beside what was the Burchill homestead. My gggrandmother was Eliza Burchill. Be happy to share info.
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The Kate Burchill to whom you refer was born in 1860, the first child of Abraham Burchill & Honora O'Leary. She had 5 sisters & 2 brothers. 3 of them went to the US in 1901, Mary, Ellen & Abraham.
There were 4 others born, Eliza, Johanna, Hanora & Samuel. Hanora was the last of the family to live in Gorteenalomane.
My Greatgrandmother was Eliza Burchill, sister of Abraham Senior who married Honora o'Leary.
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Hi macah, do you have any information on where Honorah O'Leary came from or any of her family members
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Cazza, thanks for your reply but I think we're from two different branches of the family. My Kate Burchill's father was Abram (Abraham) Burchill, and her mother was Hanora O'Leary. Abraham had a brother Samuel who owned the farm next door, and I think that's the one you may be referring to.
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WHL you asked where Honorah Leary's family came from. I will look at my research, but I found Census records that they were living in Swansea, Wales in 1851. Her parents were Denis and Ellen Leary. She was born in County Cork in 1834. Don't know where they originated in Ireland, or how she ended up marrying Abraham Burchill and settling in Skibbereen.
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Hi jaymack,
Thanks for that. It sounds like I am on the wrong track. I am told that the sister of my great grandfather married a Burchill from elsewhere in Castlehaven and i noticed that some of the sponsors of the children of Abraham and Norah matched the names on my family tree. Must be just coincidence as my family line were all from Bawnishal and I have never heard of any links to Wales. Thanks anyway - the search continues :)
WHL
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Hi macah, do you have any information on where Honorah O'Leary came from or any of her family members
You have a lot of information on the O'Learys of Bawnishall. Hanora married Abraham Burchill of Gorteenalomane, Skibbereen and lived at that address. One of that family did marry O'Driscoll of Drishane in the USA. The last Burchill who lived there was Hanora (Nonie) who died in the 1930s/40s. I know the lady from Oldcourt you refer to. My ggrandmother was Eliza Burchill, sister to Abraham who married Honora O'Leary.
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WHL you asked where Honorah Leary's family came from. I will look at my research, but I found Census records that they were living in Swansea, Wales in 1851. Her parents were Denis and Ellen Leary. She was born in County Cork in 1834. Don't know where they originated in Ireland, or how she ended up marrying Abraham Burchill and settling in Skibbereen.
Hi jaymack. You mentioned that you would check your research on Honorah Leary. Could you do this as, from discussions with macah, it seems possible that she came from Castlehaven and was the sister of my great-grandfather
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WHL what I have are records I found through Ancestry.com, and some of that is from other people's family trees. I have her birth in 1834 in County Cork. Parents were Denis and Ellen Leary. Siblings were Denis, John, Margaret, Daniel and Frederick. They show up in the 1851 Wales Census in Swansea. I have her marriage in 1856 in Glamorgan, Wales. I don't know how she then ended up back in Cork, but her children were born there. I have her death in 1911 in Cork.
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WHL you said Hanorah was the sister of your great grandfather. What was his name? Also, I have always been curious because when my great grandmother Kate Burchill came to the U.S. the family lore is that she lived for a time near Pittsburgh with a relative. I found an Eliza, or Lizzy, Leary who was living there as a servant at that time, and she could be a cousin to Kate Burchill on her mother Hanorah's side.
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Thanks jaymack. I see the Hanora Leary marriage in Glamorgan in 1856 but is it to Abraham Burchill. I can't see a record on ancestry.com for somebody with his name getting married in Glamorgan at that time.
My connection is possibly somewhat tenuous. I have collected family history in my family from the older generation but I have subsequently proved much of it. I was given names for three of my great grandfather's four siblings and I found later that these were correct. My source did not have a name for the remaining sibling but said that she married a Burchill from the Skibbereen area. I found the marriage of Abraham Burchill and Honorah Leary and then noted that some of their children had baptism sponsors that matched names on my family tree and also that my grandfather's two sisters had Burchill sponsors (and one was called Abraham). I was also told by this source that one of the children married an O'Driscoll from Drishane and macah has also heard this story about this Burchill family. Finally macah was told in the past that there was a relationship to my O'Leary family but didn't know where it came from.
Only problem is that my Hanorah Leary was the daughter of William and Mary Leary (formerly Sullivan) from Bawnishal in Castlehaven. Her brother, Arthur, was my great grandfather and he inherited the family farm. There were two other sisters, Mary and Catherine (Kate) who married two McCarthy brothers from Toe Head and another brother, Paddy, was said to be a bit wild and went to the US and nothing more was heard of him.
It's not proof but it seems possible that this Hanorah Leary would be one of my two missing links - that would leave me with just Paddy to track down....
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Sorry jaymack but I forgot to reply to your other question. I think that your Kate Burchill lived in Pittsburgh around 1870. I am not aware of a Eliza or Lizzy that lived in the US but it is a common name in my family. I guess that it might be possible that it was a first cousin of Hanorah. I know that William (father of my Hanorah) had one brother called Cornelius (whose descendants still live in Bawnishal and Castlehaven). However hearsay tells of two other brothers who were possibly called James and Henry. I don't know what happened to them but it is quite possible that they emigrated to US. This would be really wild speculation though - I don't know for sure that they existed, let alone where they lived. You have given me a lead that I must look at though :)
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Hi WHL, you seem to be researching some of the same families and places as me.
Burchills are related to me,I believe from Drishane area and from there to the States. He did return and bought a farm at Rineen. My great grandmother Mary Driscoll father William was also from Drishane. Other research is the Bohane's of Killaderry who married Carthy and Hegarty of Laharadane. All these townlands being close to each other in the south west coast of west Cork. Can you make any links here ?
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I may be able to help with Burchill & O'Driscoll information.
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Interesting timing as I have been looking at the Burchill side of my family for the first time in a few years. Despite what I have been told I am now 99% sure that the sister of my great gf (Nonie or Norah Leary) married Abraham Burchill and not Samuel.
I have quite a bit on the Leary side but I don't know much more about the Burchill side except what I have been told here. I can see from the census returns that two children Norah and Sam lived in the house with them in 1901 while Ellan and Hannah were also present in 1911. This census notes that Abraham and Norah had 9 children and that 7 of them were still living at this point. I think that we listed 8 here so maybe another died in childbirth. It also means that either Catherine, Mary, Eliza or Abraham had died by 1911
Not much but that is all I know
1901 census: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Castlehaven_South/Gorteenalomane/1156427/
1911 census: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Castlehaven_South/Gorteenalomane/442433/
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Hi Samuel and John are the names I know. John went to the States ,saved and returned to buy a farm in Rineen. Around 1930 he married one of my aunts who was Norah Bohane. I believe the Burchills came from Drishane near Tragumna and Tralispean.
I also know that Mary Driscoll born 1842 who was the daughter of William Driscoll of Drishane married Pat Hegarty of Laharadane. Pat and Mary Hegarty were the parents of my grandmother Ellen Hegarty born 1877 who married Peter Bohane born 1864 of Killaderry in 1900. All these townlands are tiny and next to each other in the south west coast of Co Cork.Peter Bohane's mother was Hanorah Carthy and his father Michael Bohane.
I am now trying to find who William Driscoll's wife was. As the Castlehaven marriage records are lost, it was pure luck that the Heritage Centre in Skibbereen suggested we check for a marriage for Mary in other churches and up it came !
Any links to these families would be of interest. I was born in the UK but still talk about
"going home " and return every summer. Do you think you may be linked to my families
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I may be able to help with Burchill & O'Driscoll information.
I'd be interested in whatever information you have. Thank you.
John McDonnell
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Hi there, came across your post regarding Michael Burchill, your great grandfather. I believe he is my great great grandfather (my Mum's great grandfather). Was he married to a Sarah Hegarty ? If so, my mum's grandmother was their daughter Elizabeth Birchill. Please get in touch if we share this relative. We have many photos of the farm and the family.
Hi,
I've done some research and have deduces that infact your Kate and Samuel, are v probably children of Samuel Burchill and Mary Driscoll, my great great grand parents. Their younger son Michael ( my great granddad) inherited the farm, which is still in the family
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The Michael Burchill referenced in the earlier posts was married to Margaret Collins.
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Hi there, came across your post regarding Michael Burchill, your great grandfather. I believe he is my great great grandfather (my Mum's great grandfather). Was he married to a Sarah Hegarty ? If so, my mum's grandmother was their daughter Elizabeth Birchill. Please get in touch if we share this relative. We have many photos of the farm and the family.
Hi. I think that your family is a different Burchill family that came from further west in Schull in County Cork. This may be the baptism record that refers to your relation
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03280/2202049.pdf
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Hello! I'm new to this site but I am looking for information on James Burchill who was married to Bridget Bowen (Bohane?). I believe he was born around 1845 and may be the son of Arthur and Norry McCarthy, but I am not positive. They immigrated to Boston and had a daughter Helena in 1878. Any information or photos would really be appreciated!
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Hi there, came across your post regarding Michael Burchill, your great grandfather. I believe he is my great great grandfather (my Mum's great grandfather). Was he married to a Sarah Hegarty ? If so, my mum's grandmother was their daughter Elizabeth Birchill. Please get in touch if we share this relative. We have many photos of the farm and the family.
Hi, just doing some research on my Burchill family and saw your post. My 3rd great grandfather was Michael Burchill married to Sarah Hegarty! I am related to their daughter Ann Burchill my 2nd great grandmother sister to Elizabeth. Would love to hear from you, Barbara
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BBAXTER - my mother knows a lot more than I do and when she was a child, her family used to travel to Ireland to visit the family there. All I know is that two of the sisters (one of which was my great great grandmother Elizabeth), married two brothers (last name Nicholls) who were English stone masons working on building the fastnet rock lighthouse. When their job was done, my great grandfather returned to England with Elizabeth to build housing for the coal miners in Wales. The other brother and Elizabeth's sister stayed in Ireland. Such an interesting story that two brothers married two sisters !! Wondering if your ancestor Ann was the other sister ?
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I can only see one Birchill Nicholls marriage
Charles and Elizabeth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10439/5801374.pdf
And a daughter Sarah
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01906/1739664b.pdf
There is a marriage of Annie Burchill with the same address and father's name to William Wilkinson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10711/5905197.pdf
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BBAXTER - my mother knows a lot more than I do and when she was a child, her family used to travel to Ireland to visit the family there. All I know is that two of the sisters (one of which was my great great grandmother Elizabeth), married two brothers (last name Nicholls) who were English stone masons working on building the fastnet rock lighthouse. When their job was done, my great grandfather returned to England with Elizabeth to build housing for the coal miners in Wales. The other brother and Elizabeth's sister stayed in Ireland. Such an interesting story that two brothers married two sisters !! Wondering if your ancestor Ann was the other sister ?
Hi Christine,
Thank you very much for this information! Yes my gg grandmother Ann Burchill is sister to your gg grandmother Elizabeth. We are cousins of some sort-will have to figure it out.
Ann Burchill married William Wilkinson. William was a policeman and they stayed in Ireland and had 6 children including my great grandmother Sarah Ann Wilkinson. Sarah married and left with her family for the United States where I am located.
I was lucky enough to make it to Ireland this summer and saw the Fastnet lighthouse from the mainland so thank you for the story of the brothers who worked as stonemasons. This is great information and I have added it to my tree online. Hopefully we can stay in touch-would love to share my tree with you and compare notes. Thank you, with much appreciation, Barbara
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Hi Christine,
Your information really helped to put the story together. Michael Burchill and Sarah Hegarty had 9 children with 6 living in 1911 Irish Census.
The 6 Burchill children that I know of: John, Anne, William, Elizabeth,Thomas and Sarah. William died in 1906 so there is one missing. Possibly a brother George? I don't know for sure.
Anne and Sarah Nicholls are in the 1911 Wales census attached below. The interesting thing is my great grandmother Sarah Ann Miller (Anne Burchills daughter) is living around the corner from her 2 aunts! Her husband John Miller is listed as building contractor and most likely working with the 2 Nicholls brothers! So thank you again and maybe we can figure out the other siblings. Best, Barbara