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Title: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: maddiewillis on Thursday 01 March 12 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am looking for the parents of James Lowe believed born in shropshire in 1847. he had a son named william born 1885. I believe james died in yorkshire April 1891 and he married Mary Ann in December 1867. Can anyone help with me tracing anything to do with james especially his parents.
Thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 17:34 GMT (UK)
This is his family in 1891:
Reference RG12, Piece 3540, Folio 74, Page 17
22 Carlton Street, Keighley

Lowe, James  Head  M  44  Coal Miner  b Donnington, Shropshire
Lowe, Mary A  Wife  F  37  b Heage, Derbyshire
Lowe, Naomi  Daughter  F  17  Wool Spinner  b Altofts, Yorkshire
Lowe, Mary J  Daughter  F  14  Wool SPinner  b Altofts
Lowe, Ellen  Daughter  F  12  Wool Spinner  b Normanton, Yorkshire
Lowe, James A  Son  M  7  b Normanton
Lowe, William  Son  M  5  b Normanton
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: maddiewillis on Thursday 01 March 12 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hi KGerrard, Thats brilliant it helps so much give me plenty to work on now.
Once again many thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 01 March 12 18:04 GMT (UK)
Are you sure about the marriage in 1867?  It seems a bit early...

This looks like Mary in 1881:

RG11/4712/78/50
12 New Long Row, Preston, Yorks

Willm. BULLOCK  Head  26 Coal Miner  b. Abinhall, Gloucs
Naomi BULLOCK  Wife  19  b. Heage, Derbyshire
John Wm. BULLOCK  Son  1  b. Gt Preston, Yorks
Mary Ann LOW  Sister  Married  27  Miner's Wife  b. Heage
Ellen LOW  Niece  2  b. Normanton, Yorks
Lydia LOW  Niece  11 months  b. Astley, Yorks

Naomi ALLEN married William BULLOCK Dec Q 1878.  (Wakefield 9c 110)
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: jacquelineve on Thursday 01 March 12 18:06 GMT (UK)
Maddie

1881 Preston Yorkshire RG11/4712  folio 78 page50
Mary Ann Low  27     miners wife    Heague Derbysh.
Ellen                 2
Lydia               11 mths

Living with brother Wlm Bullock + family

Jackie.
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: jacquelineve on Thursday 01 March 12 18:11 GMT (UK)
1881 Normanton Yorkshire RG11/4753   folio 37  page 67

Naomi  Lowe   7    Durham
living with g.parents Joseph + Lydia Allen

Jackie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 18:15 GMT (UK)
1881 Normanton  RG11, 4573, 29, 52

Mary J Lowe  4  b Altofts
Visitor at John & Ellen Evans
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 18:39 GMT (UK)
The nearest I can find for a marriage is:

September qtr 1874
Dudley district    vol 6c, page 162

Lowe, James
+ and on the same page +
Allen, Mary

Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 01 March 12 18:44 GMT (UK)
The nearest I can find for a marriage is:

September qtr 1874
Dudley district    vol 6c, page 162

Lowe, James
+ and on the same page +
Allen, Mary



I looked at that one too, but if you cross-reference it on West Midlands BMD, it has James' wife as Ann RODEN, the other woman on the page.  :(
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: jacquelineve on Thursday 01 March 12 18:45 GMT (UK)
 I saw that marriage too, but checked West Mid BMD, James Lowe to Mary Roden


Jackie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 18:57 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find anything else close - looked 1851 to 1881!

Mary Ann's sister Naomi is with parents and the rest of the family in 1871 in Altofts.
But no Mary!

RG10, 4617, 75, 41
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 19:11 GMT (UK)
1871 census:
RG10, 4617, 74, 40
37 Silkston Row, Altofts

Harrison, Edward  Head  M  20  Coal Miner  b Barnsley
Harrison, Mary Ann  Wife  F  17  b Heage, Derbyshire

Followed by:

Marriages, June qtr 1873
Wakefield district    vol 9c, page 30

Lowe, James
+ and on the same page +
Harrison, Mary Ann
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 01 March 12 19:24 GMT (UK)
Fits beautifully!

Marriages Sep 1870
ALLEN  Mary Ann
HARRISON  Edward
Wakefield 9c 15

Deaths Mar Q 1873
HARRISON  Edward
Aged 22
Wakefield 9c 6
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: fairlane on Thursday 01 March 12 22:39 GMT (UK)
This could be your James in 1861 in Donnington Wood, Shropshire - his marriage certificate would confirm his father. As he was older than his wife he possibly knocked a couple of years off his age. Many of my ancestors give Lilleshall as place of birth in early census then Donnington in later census.

RG09 piece 1903  folio 57 page 11
Yard Row, Donnington Wood, Shropshire ( all born Lilleshall)
James Lowe head mar 60 Boat builder
Jane Lowe wife 53
Thomas Lowe son unmar 21 Ironstone miner
Jane Lowe dau unmar 19 Loads coal on pit bank
James Lowe son unmar 17 Ironstone miner
Zillah Lowe dau 15 Works in brick....
Sarah Ann Lowe dau 11 Scholar


Fairlane
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: maddiewillis on Thursday 01 March 12 23:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Fairlane,
Thanks for that. Yes you could be correct as some ages vary. It looks hopeful.
WIll check further.
Many thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 March 12 23:53 GMT (UK)
This looks like the family in 1851:
HO107, 1998, 103, 7
Donnington Wood, Lilleshall, Shropshire

Lowe, James  Head  M  50  Boat Builder  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Jane  Wife  F  47  b Muxton
Lowe, Mary  Daughter  F  19  Works on Pit Bank  b Lilleshall
Lowe, William  Son  M  16  Labourer  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Dinah  Daughter  F  14  Brick Maker  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Thomas  Son  M  11  Scholar  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Jane  Daughter  F  9  b Lilleshall
Lowe, James  Son  M  6  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Zillah  Daughter  F  4  b Lilleshall
Lowe, Sarah  Daughter  F  1  b Lilleshall
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: maddiewillis on Friday 02 March 12 09:12 GMT (UK)
Hi KGarrad,
That is great information and does look correct. Many thanks for your assistance it has helped a lot. I now know who my GG Grandfather and GG Grandmother are.
Thankyou
Maddie
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: fizz83 on Friday 27 May 16 09:23 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie,
I am also researching the Lowes from Lileshall, James Lowe (1800) is my 4x great grandfather (his daughter Jane being my ancestor)
I've discovered a few of James and Jane's 'children' on later census records are actually grandchildren, although recorded as son etc,  and some BMD records have been a bit hit and miss/hard to find with the children.
i.e William B Lowe (1864) is actually Jane's son, George (1858) is also Dinah's son.
Isaac and John are also likely not theres given the years of there birth, but I haven't been able to figure that puzzle out yet!
Bek  :D

Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: David Lowe on Thursday 15 September 16 03:41 BST (UK)
Hi Lowe Reseachers :- I am David George Lowe 1954,my Father was George Lowe 1920/1965 My Grandfather James GG,George 1857, GGG ? Mother Dinah 1836 {but she wed James Ferriday} GGGG James Lowe 1800 Lilleshall.GGGGG Thomas Lowe Born ? place ? Wed Elizabeth ? born ? place ? children Elizabeth 1795 Thomas 1797 JAMES 1800 Joseph 1805 Richard 1808,I have hit a brick wall re GGGGG Thomas & Elizabeth.  re my Great Grandfather George,in 1881 he was listed with parents James/Jane but also living there was William 16,Issac 14 & John 11 & as James was 81 & Jane 71 they are one or more of the daughters sons,as with Dinah/George.so if any one can help with Thomas/Elizabeth & possibly further I would be grateful.
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Bek0110 on Wednesday 21 September 16 07:18 BST (UK)
Hi David,
The only information i have on Thomas and Elizabeth is a marriage from Shropshire parish records for the 29 december 1794. Witnesses were George Dean and 'Nathl' Porter.
There is a possible census record for Thomas in Lilleshall, 1841, born 1772, Shropshire also. Occupation listed as Carpenter.
Im currently trying to find further info on this line of my tree, if i find anything further i will be sure to post!

Out of curiosity also, have you ever heard of any gypsy connections to any part of this line of the family?
My Nan always said we had Gypsy ancestors somewhere on her side and im trying to narrow down which part of the family it may have came from - though have found little evidence so far, so it may just be one of those family myths! Thought it wouldn't hurt to ask though, as you're the first person I've come across with a connection to this part of my family tree :)
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Bek0110 on Wednesday 21 September 16 07:20 BST (UK)
Opps, i also should add re marriage: Thomas Lowe married Elizabeth Stones.
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Bek0110 on Wednesday 21 September 16 07:33 BST (UK)
Possible baptism for Eliz Stones

7 May 1775
Lilleshall, Shropshire
D/o John Stones and Sarah

There are multiple siblings for this Elizabeth also
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: David Lowe on Wednesday 28 September 16 18:16 BST (UK)
James Lowe born 1800 cencus returns are throwing up several mystery's,as previously stated George 1857{my gr8 grandfather was Jame's daughter Dinah 1836 son,also William Bennett Lowe 1864 is most likely Jame's daughter Jane 1842 son, Dinah wed James Ferriday 1835 they had 4 sons John 1860.James 1862,Thomas 1868, & Jonah 1877 also 4 daughters Mary Ann 1865,Maria 1871,Dinah 1874 & Zilla 1877. William Bennett Lowe was still living with James in 1881 but Jane is not listed on cencus return, there is also listed as previously stated listed on the same cencus Isaac Lowe 1867 & John Lowe 1870,it could be possibility that Ann Lowe 1850 could be there Mother ? who is also listed on the form.
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: David Lowe on Wednesday 28 September 16 18:36 BST (UK)
 Correction, Just had a look at Family search Ann Lowe is William Lowe's wife parents of John Frederick Lowe 1870, Ann & Son John are listed on the 1881 cencus living with James, but William is not listed. no parents listed for Isaac 1867 but Ann & William are most likely his parents,confusing or what I have been sent down that many blind alleys I spent a year following a different Lowe family line because James & not Dinah was listed as the parent.
Title: Re: James Lowe Family 1847
Post by: Bek0110 on Thursday 29 September 16 14:31 BST (UK)
You are correct with William Henry (Bennett) Lowe. He is James' daughter, Jane's son. Who is my x4 great grandmother. William was the child of Jane Lowe and  George Bennett. He was born out of wedlock in 1864, Jane was George's servant in the 1881 census, and then they were listed as married in the 1891. (Though I haven't found a marriage record) They also had daughter Rosina born 1882 who is my Great Great Grandmother.