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Title: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: xanthe on Saturday 17 March 12 13:15 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to identify a George LAKE, who, according to the 1851 census, was born abt 1807 at St Helier. The 1861 census gives birth data as c1808 in Jersey. Have not found him in any other census. Would anyone be able and kind enough to check the St Helier baptism register from, say, 1805 to 1809?

Thank you

Xanthe
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: sabrina on Sunday 25 March 12 11:06 BST (UK)
I presume the George Lake you are talking about was the one married to Nancy in the 1851 and 1861 census.  In the 1841 census, George must have been away at sea (he was a seaman). 

1841 census Nancy Lake 30 years  lived at St. Quen/Ouen, Jersey
                     George 5 years son
                     John 2 years son
                     Ann 5 months daughter

There was also in the 1841 census a Richard Lake b: 1781 and Jane b: 1786 at St. Peter Port (could they be Georges parents)

Also on the 1851 census there was a George Lake (servant) 36 years - however when you look at the actual page it says LEAK

If you look at Roots web where we are, they are saying that there are a lot more births added to LDS for the Channel Isles.  I will have a look at the 1871 census.

sabrina
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: sabrina on Sunday 25 March 12 11:13 BST (UK)
1871 census Nancy LAKE 63 years WIDOW charwoman b: St. Ouens  address St. Ouens
                     Elizabeth LAKE 23 years dressmaker - daughter

It would appear that George Lake died between 1871 and 1871

sabrina
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: xanthe on Sunday 25 March 12 17:26 BST (UK)
Hi Sabrina,
Thank you for taking the time to help me. I do actually have all the census data. Sadly, Richard and Jane Lake are not George's parents: they did not marry until 1811, in Hampshire, and they had their children in Hampshire and later in Dorset. I think that I have to get hold of George's baptism data - probably by paying for some research. But I do appreciate your input.
Thanks again
Xanthe
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: Ringrose on Sunday 25 March 12 19:01 BST (UK)
Have you looked at the research site called Jerripedia. This is the best site I have found for feasibly records in Jersey and I do know that StbHelier births are there.Its a site which is growing every day and even if you don't find your record there it's an amazing site to look at.
Ringrose
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: xanthe on Sunday 25 March 12 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi Ringrose,
No I didn't know about Jerripedia, and you're right - it's a treasure chest. Although George Lake isn't there - yet - I've already found a couple of later Lakes that I knew nothing about. And it's wonderful for background information about Jersey. Thank you for alerting me to a great source.
Xanthe
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: sabrina on Monday 26 March 12 04:15 BST (UK)
There are two  Merchant Navy entries on 'Find My Past' for George Lake, but I don't know how to attach them for you on this site, unless I contact you personally.  One is his Registration number, and the other describes him and gives a birth date but no parents.  It says that he was born St. Helier, and lived in Ouen when at home.

sabrina
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: sabrina on Wednesday 28 March 12 05:04 BST (UK)
A record which might come in handy one day.

Nicholas LAKE married Gathrood MOSES  02.04.1808 St. peter Port, Guernsey.  From the old LDS records

sabrina
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: Hill on Thursday 29 March 12 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi Sabrina

I've had a look at all the baptisms in St Helier from about 1790 to 1820 and there are no George Lake baptisms.

I have also checked the baptisms in other parishes and again found no George Lake.

What I can tell you is that there was a marriage of a George Lake and a Nancy Syvret on 7th Feb 1833 in St. Ouen. There are no mention of either parents.

I can confirm the baptism dates of:

George - &th Oct 1835
John - 16th Dec 1838
Ann - 29th Dec 1840

St Ouen is a hot-bed of Syvret's!! However there are very few Nancy's so I can see that Nancy Syvret was baptised 18th Apr 1813, daughter of Pierre (son of Jean) and Esther du Val.

Stewart
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: xanthe on Thursday 29 March 12 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi Sabrina
Thanks, I’ve pasted this into my “maybe” file. My own ancestors were on Guernsey for 2 or 3 generations in the 2nd half of the 19th century – they moved there from Devon. Haven’t currently got a Nicholas in my line, but it would be great to discover that earlier generations of the family also had Channel Islands connections.

Xanthe
Title: Re: St Helier parish records: George LAKE, ca. 1807
Post by: xanthe on Thursday 29 March 12 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi Stewart
Many many thanks for checking all that. What a helpful board this is! I hope I may be able to reciprocate at some point.

So it seems that there are several possibilities regarding George Lake: either his baptism didn’t get recorded (by oversight of the minister), or he was baptised at a Non-Conformist chapel perhaps, or he wasn’t baptised at all, or, despite the statements on the census returns and his seaman’s ticket, he wasn’t born on Jersey at all but he assumed that he had been because he grew up there.

Hmm, much food for thought and further research.

Thanks again to everyone who posted.

Xanthe