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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Radnorshire => Topic started by: Fooman on Saturday 17 March 12 21:43 GMT (UK)
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Hi there - looking for anyone with any info on the Traylor family in Presteigne.
We know that Edwin Traylor was born in Presteigne in 1855 in what was Scotland Street and his father was William Traylor. We have something written down that said it was the old Jail House but not sure where that came from.
If anyone has any more info that would be great.
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Do you have Edwin's birth certificate? Are you sure his father is William? This is the only Edwin I can link to Presteigne at the moment
Sherrington Pembridge Radnorshire
1861 census RG/4231/16/15
James Traylor 34 Ag lab born Titley Herefordshire
Jane wife 30 Longford Shropshire
Mary A dau 10 Lyonshall Shropshire
Anne dau 7 Pembridge Herefordshire
Edwin 5 Presteigne
Caroline 3 Presteigne
Eliza 5 months Pembridge herefordshire
Looks like they moved a fair bit and have only just returned to Presteigne after the birth of Eliza in Herefordshire
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On same page FreeBMD Marriages
James Traylor and Jane Mason September 1/4 1848 vol 26 page 331 registration district Presteigne
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Yes James marrying Jane is correct. William must be his grandfather.
Its the "born in jail house" that we're intriged with. Just can't track this down and get to the bottom of it.
I believe the Traylors used to own a butchers in the town at one point but this isn't there now.
They certainly moved around a lot.
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Can't help with the jail house bit, sorry.
Did note that in 1861 James and Jane have changed their birthplace. James now says born in Knucklass? Radnorshire and Jane says born Presteigne.
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Hello :)
The gaol is an address on the 1851 census, and I found these photographs:
ca 1877
http://history.powys.org.uk/school1/presteigne/gaol.shtml
ca1896
http://casgliadywerincymru.com/Item/11242/col_1/tra_1/grp_1/com_1/tab_0/m_1
Henry Verdon was Superintendant of Police on 1851, and there were 7 Prisoners
1851 HO107 Piece 2492 Folio 479 Page 7
More Prisoners in 1861, all listed by initials only
1861 RG 9 Piece 4232 Folio 108 Page 24
Kind Regards
Morgan
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Thanks for this information. I wonder if this was on what was called Scotland Street and could be it.
We spoke to someone in Presteigne who said that there was a house called Jail House on Clatterbrook (sp?) Lane which is next to the now John Beddowes School but this is completely in the different direction to Scotland Street so we're not sure.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Roan1949 on here? He has posted a few things on this website a few years ago about the Traylor family and I'm convinced its connected to what I'm looking for but don't know how to get in touch with him.
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Does anyone know how to get in touch with Roan1949 on here? He has posted a few things on this website a few years ago about the Traylor family and I'm convinced its connected to what I'm looking for but don't know how to get in touch with him.
See answer here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,587749.0.html
Bob
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Hello :)
According to their web site, John Beddoes School:
"in 1869 the school was transformed into Presteigne County Secondary School, moving into new buildings on a site previously occupied by the County Gaol, the gaol bell being used as the school bell until 1969"
http://www.johnbeddoes.org/pages/About%20Us/HistoryJohnBeddoes.php
On the 1861 it is described as County Gaol with Henry Verdun as Governer, and next door was Station House with "First Class Police Constable" John Smith. The buildings are listed after Hereford Street.
Kind Regards
Morgan
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I understand the "Traylor" surname probably originated from the place name of "Maes Treylow" near Presteigne, Wales. The ancestor of the Traylors in the U.S. is Edward Traylor (b.1649) who sailed from Bristol, England to Virginia around 1663 in a ship with approximately 15 persons including Captain Jonathan Richards.
Consulting the death records of the National Archives in Kew, England, Griffeths Traylor was buried at St. Michaels in Onibury, Shropshire in 1644. In addition, there is a will of 'Griffith Troyler' dated 1644 from the same town of Onibury which is a possible orthographical error of the same Griffeths Traylor buried in 1644. Could he possibly be related to Edward Traylor?
Also, what was the reason for his departure from Bristol? Since Charles II came into power in 1660 and began persecuting christians, could his departure be related to these persecutions? Could he have been kidnapped or could there
have been another reason? Any possible additional information provided on the Traylors in Presteigne would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello ronaldt :)
Welcome to Rootschat!
The Clarendon Code acts were intended to support the Anglican Church over other Churches, and to prevent meetings by dissenters. Some Quakers went to America, and some were persecuted there, e.g. Boston Martyrs.
Do you have any indication of relgious denomination of the Traylors?
Kind Regards
Morgan
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Edward Traylor birth date was in error. His birth date was 1639.
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I do not have any information on the denomination of the Traylors.
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Edward Traylor birth date was in error. His birth date was 1639.
Is this the same Edward Traylor?
http://files.usgwarchives.net/il/montgomery/bios/traylor.txt
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Yes. Edward Traylor (b.1639) sailed from Bristol, England in approx. 1663.
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Wow this is getting quite interesting now. Sorry for the delay in responding but been away on a trip to the States.
So, can we trace this Edward Traylor who sailed from Bristol to the Traylors in Presteigne? Just wondedring if this was a great great Uncle or similar to the Edwin Traylor I'm trying to link it to from Presteigne. Any info on relates you have back in Presteigne would be greatly appreciated as we're a bit stuck
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Hi, Edwin Traylor b1855. Wigmore. Presteigne. married Mary Watkins 1879 in Knighton.
This is in my tree.
The Traylor line in Presteigne can be traced back to John of Gaunt.
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Oh wow - do you have a family tree typed up at all you could send me via email or something? We're going back down to Presteigne next month to try and find out more so it would be really useful to have some more details.
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Hi, I'll see what i can do.
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Thank you. I certainly know that Edwin Traylor marrying Mary Watkins is definitely in the right family tree. Would be great to find out how far back you've got and then if we have anything further or any dates you've got missing or anything like that we can add them together.
I know from a gravestone we found in Presteigne there was a John and Jane Traylor and it listed their children which were buried with them but we haven't been able to figure out where they fit so your info might help with that.
Did you know they still play for the Edwin Traylor memorial cup at the local football club? Another Edwin Traylor to the one we're talking about but still a relative.
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Hi, sorry for the delay.
Most of my information I have regarding the" Traylor Family" comes from mostly letters written by Cdr.T.H.Traylor MBE. RN. my cousin.Detailing such things as the marriage line back to John of Gaunt. Edward V11 letter to the king of france for the surrender of " Traillor the buccaneer". Too many to mention here.
I have seen the stone in Presteine listing the Traylor children,I have no other info on them as yet.
Can you tie in Elizabeth Traylor who married John Gittings in Clunton June 10, 1709?
or perhaps Ambrose Traylor m Ann Morris 29/5/1649 Bromyard?
I'm part of the Trailor line that started with my grandfather changing the spelling from Traylor when he moved to Merthyr to get married.
Regards Dave
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Wow - sounds like you're a lot further back than what we are. We're kind of a bit stuck so any info you could send via email or I can pm you my home address would be appreciated. I don't mind sending you a SAE for you to send anything to me of copies of letters etc that could help us.
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We've got back to 1744 with a William Traylor marrying Elizabeth Davies. Can you link this in with the information you have? If so would be great to hear from you further.
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Hi, I live in Gloucester . My oldest Traylor that I can document to is Edward Traylor he went to the Americas. I'm from the american Traylor family. Would love to find out all I can about them. There is a book written by a man named Anjou which is most likely incorrect. In it he states that the Traylor family were French Huguenot. I just don't know but Edward came to the US. Hope to hear from you. Sissy
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Hi, I can document to the Edward Traylor that came to the Americas. I live in Gloucester , UK. There is a book written by a man named Anjou about the Traylor family. Anjou states that the Traylor family were French Huguenots . I don't know if that is correct. Would love to communicate with you. Sissy .
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OK, that sounds great my email is (*) I would love to hear from you. Sissy
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