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Title: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: carol80 on Wednesday 28 March 12 09:38 BST (UK)
Looking for the births of the following;
John Thornhill  d 29 Nov 1871 in New Zealand (no death cert yet to confirm)
Margaret Thornhill nee Moore ( John and Margaret married 14 July 1855 recorded in Cork, Cork, Ireland.  Civil Registration. John's father William Margaret's father John Moore.
Children;William Alfred b 1856
               Anne b 1858
               Lorn b ?
               Hazel b ?
               Robin b ?
               Louisa b 1869.
Margaret, William,Anne and Louisa came to New Zealand in 1874.
Any help much appreciated.
               Carol in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 28 March 12 09:50 BST (UK)
Where in Co. Cork did the marriage take place ?

Most of the births are before the start of civil records in 1864, so you will need to check for baptisms, which require knowing the parish, and denomination. (Since the marriage seems to be registered then it's non-Catholic..)

Maybe start the search with Louisa to try to narrow down the location...

see :  Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 28 March 12 10:07 BST (UK)
not sure if this fits - but the parents names match with a little variation ...an RC baptism in St. Finbarr's RC , Cork City for an Anne Thornell on 13th Dec 1859 with parents John Thornell and Margt. Moore.. see : link (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7638b80105601)    (IrishGenealogy.ie)

Maybe it was a mixed marriage and some children were baptized RC and others CofI ?




Shane

Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: carol80 on Wednesday 28 March 12 10:13 BST (UK)
That is the details i have from IGI
On Williams Marriage Certificate it says the following;
William  as Laborer  aged 28  residing at Longbush Invercargill born Cork, Ireland.  His  Parents  are John Thornhill  a Clerk  and  Margaret Thornhill  maiden surname Moore.
Sorry all i have is Cork. I thought the Civil Registration bit may have been important so included it.
                 Carol
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 28 March 12 10:31 BST (UK)
That marriage definitely helps your search but this type of extracted record doesnt include all the details that would be on the cert or register.

   https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG62-2C9

A civil marriage cert would show the name of the church or registry office, and also should include residences for the bride and groom, father's names & occupations, names of two witnesses and name of the priest/minister/registrar.

These look like the index details in case you wish to order a cert :

  Name: John Thornhill
  Registration district:   Cork
  Event type: Marriage
  Year: 1855
  Volume: 4 / Page: 538

A Margaret Moore is listed on the Index with the same references.

Cork registration district covers the city but also quite a wide area of the county - e.g. towns such as Watergrasshill, Glanmire, Queenstown(Cobh), Blarney etc

see :  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
          Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Seanseosamh on Tuesday 03 April 12 22:08 BST (UK)
Thornhill is a prominent name in the area of Kildorrery in county Cork.
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Niall O Mahony on Tuesday 19 September 17 19:12 BST (UK)
I am a researcher in cork presently tracing Thornhill family for a family of that name.if you are still searching I can help you.i can be contacted through facebook at
www.facebook.com/familytreefermoy
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Niall O Mahony on Tuesday 19 September 17 21:08 BST (UK)
SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Marriage of JOHN THORNHILL
in 1855
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Name
JOHN THORNHILL
Date of Event
1855
Group Registration ID
N/R
SR District/Reg Area
Cork
Returns Year
1855
Returns Quarter
1
Returns Volume No
4
Returns Page No
538

if you apply to births deaths and marriages in Roscommon Ireland quote
marriage record
john Thornhill
1855
1st quarter
volume 4
page 538

this will get the church and area he was married in
it is possible it is in the mallow to fermoy area
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: carol80 on Tuesday 19 September 17 21:32 BST (UK)
Just getting ready to start my day. This is fabulous. Will contact you on facebook

Thank-you
           Carol
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Niall O Mahony on Wednesday 20 September 17 17:43 BST (UK)
Just getting ready to start my day. This is fabulous. Will contact you on facebook

Thank-you
           Carol

Just found birth of john thornhill

First name(s)   John
Last name   Thornhill
Birth year   -
Baptism year   1816
Baptism date   12 Sep 1816
Residence   Bally?
Parish   Doneraile
Diocese   Cloyne
County   Cork
Country   Ireland
Father's first name(s)   William
Father's last name   Thornhill
Mother's first name(s)   Mary
Mother's last name   Roache
Repository   National Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland link   http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633249#page/1/mode/1up
Register   Baptism
Record set   Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Category   Life Events (Birth, Marriage, Death)
Subcategory   Parish Baptisms
Collections from   Ireland

Hope this is of help
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: William2912 on Saturday 18 August 18 02:50 BST (UK)
Hello all

I live in Brisbane Australia. I have traced one of the branches of my family tree back to a William Thornhill born in Kildorrery, Ireland in 1851. He migrated to Brisbane, Australia, married here in 1875 and died here in 1900. He was one of my Great Grand-fathers. I have and can obtain more about this Australian connection if anyone is interested.

My enquiry is as follows. It has become part of my family's folklore that the Thornhills from Kildorrery descended from the Thornhills who lived at Thornhill Hall in West Yorkshire. However, I can find no evidence of this. I know that a female Thornhill living at Thornhill Hall married a member of the Saville family in the 1300s and from that event the link between the Thornhill name and Thornhill Hall ended. Can anyone throw any light on the link? Is there any documentary evidence to support the connection?

I note in the discussion on this site that a researcher has been investigating the Thornhill family in Cork Co. I'm not a member of any social media group (I think social media arrived too late for my age) and so cannot contact him directly. However, if he is still following these posts, I would gladly pay him for researching my branch of the Thornhills back beyond where I have got to.

Any assistance in this regard would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, William2912 (Bill)
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 18 August 18 07:47 BST (UK)

Pedigree of Thornhill of Castlekevin and Rockfield, Co. Cork, c.1662 -- 1830.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.173, pp.138-9
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 18 August 18 07:49 BST (UK)
Arms entry of Edward Badham Thornhill of Castle Keevin, Co. Corke quartering Badham and with an account of his ancestry, Oct. 25, 1768.

 Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.103, p.51
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 18 August 18 07:52 BST (UK)
Copy made in 1830, of the original grant of Arms by Carney, Ulster to Major William Thornhill of Co. Cork, Oct. 1653.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.104, p.27
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 18 August 18 08:04 BST (UK)
All available at much less cost than paying someone to "research" them

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Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 18 August 18 08:15 BST (UK)
 Baptism results for Thornhill 1850s  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mjp/


Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Thornhill   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mjq/
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: careyThornhill on Wednesday 09 October 19 20:33 BST (UK)
I am new to this forum and not sure how to proceed. I was born in Kildorrery County Cork and have researched the Thornhill family from there. I note that William2912 (Bill) from Brisbane has been looking for information which I am happy to share.
my gmail.com user name is carey.thornhill
I believe he is correct about the Yorkshire connection, it is a long story, via Derbyshire.
Bill's great-great grandfather's father was William Thornhill (1818-1885). He married Mary Anne Daly in 1842. The family went to Australia in 1863, with 3 sons and 2 daughters. There was sickness on board and the girls died at sea.
William's father was St. John Thornhill (1797-1873, my g-g grandfather). His mother was Elizabeth Courtney from Ballyhea in North Cork.
Carey Thornhill
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 09 October 19 20:39 BST (UK)


Your email address will be removed to prevent it being harvested...

I think if you say  my  gmail.com user name is     carey.thornhill       it should be OK

(unless a Moderator overrules this!)
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 09 October 19 21:28 BST (UK)
You do not need to exchange email if you do not wish too, there is always the option to send a PM which new members can access after a couple of posts.

Welcome to RootsChat Carey :)

Regards

Sarah

Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Loriwin on Tuesday 05 July 22 18:56 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,
I've been stuck on my husband's Thornhill family for a long time, and hopefully, I can get some help through this chat.  Here is my line:
Gen. 1 George Thornhill b. 10 May 1800 Cork Co., Ireland, d. 20 Jan 1870 in Bridgewater, Somerset, New Jersey, USA. m. Mary Bailey b. 6 June 1796 Ireland d. 20 Dec. 1866 Bridgewater, Somerset, New Jersey. Son: George Thornhill, b. 13 Aug 1815 Cork Co. Ireland
Gen. 2 George Thornhill, b. 13 Aug 1815 Cork Co. Ireland d. 15 Dec. 1881 Bridgewater, Somerset, NJ, m. Mary (Anastasia) b. 1824 Ireland, d. NJ.
Children: Fanny 1844-1877, Edward 1846-1866, Anna 1949, Jane 1854-1932, , argaret 1857-1880
George 1857-1929
I do have a lot of birth date discrepancies with the 1st George Thornhill and wives (the Mary's) can be confusing.  I'm also trying to figure out how they all fit in with the rest of the Cork Co. Thornhill's.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, 
Lori Thornhill


Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 05 July 22 22:32 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,
I've been stuck on my husband's Thornhill family for a long time, and hopefully, I can get some help through this chat.  Here is my line:
Gen. 1 George Thornhill b. 10 May 1800 Cork Co., Ireland, d. 20 Jan 1870 in Bridgewater, Somerset, New Jersey, USA. m. Mary Bailey b. 6 June 1796 Ireland d. 20 Dec. 1866 Bridgewater, Somerset, New Jersey. Son: George Thornhill, b. 13 Aug 1815 Cork Co. Ireland
Gen. 2 George Thornhill, b. 13 Aug 1815 Cork Co. Ireland d. 15 Dec. 1881 Bridgewater, Somerset, NJ, m. Mary (Anastasia) b. 1824 Ireland, d. NJ.
Children: Fanny 1844-1877, Edward 1846-1866, Anna 1949, Jane 1854-1932, , argaret 1857-1880
George 1857-1929
I do have a lot of birth date discrepancies with the 1st George Thornhill and wives (the Mary's) can be confusing.  I'm also trying to figure out how they all fit in with the rest of the Cork Co. Thornhill's.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, 
Lori Thornhill

1)Have you found the marriage of George Thornhill who married Mary Bailey.  The dates you have show him as having a child at the age of 15.  While of course this is physically possible...Are the dates correct?
2) have you found the family coming to the US and later US Census information? 
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 06 July 22 07:10 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)


I'm also trying to figure out how they all fit in with the rest of the Cork Co. Thornhill's.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thornhill

Large BMD majorities in registration districts of Cork, Mallow, Fermoy, Mitchelstown and Skibbereen.

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01roa/

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=Thornhill


Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Loriwin on Friday 08 July 22 20:09 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone one for the help.
 To answer Shanreagh's questions, I've never been sure about George Thornhill's birthdate.  the U.S. Census has him being born in 1795 and then 1800 and then 1810.  So it's all over the place.  1795 makes more sense.  The family immigrated during the potato Famine in 1848 to New Jersey.  I have a lot of information on them in the U.S., just not in Ireland.
Thank you to Kiltaglassan for the suggested websites, I'm delving into the sites now.

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Title: Re: Thornhill Family Of Cork
Post by: Burke Thornhill on Sunday 17 March 24 08:19 GMT (UK)
Hello Thornhill Family of Cork
I am wondering whether you have any record for Mary Anne Thornhill 1794-1877. I know she is buried at Aghern in East Cork as I have seen her gravestone, erected by son Thomas who kept the family farm nearby. She married Richard Burke, also buried there (as is Thomas). I don't know when they married, or where. I know their children. Francis, one of the younger sons is my twice great grandfather. However I have no knowledge of Mary Anne and her Thornhill origins.