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Any info please
Fanny Robina Kinnaird b. 1884 in Bute married my ancestor Albert Northam. b.1881 in Devon They were married in Cardiff in 1902. Does anyone have any info on her or her family etc.
Cheers Heather
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I can find no birth for a Fanny (Frances) Robina Kinnaird.
The only two Albert Northams that married in the time frame you give are:
Albert Northam married 1904(2) in Cardiff to either Beatrice Ann Goss or Amelia Jane Freeth.
Albert Edward Northam married 1903(2) in Bristol to either Charlotte Elizabeth Keeton or Violet Venetia Richards.
I am sorry not to be of more help
Regards Amber 39
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Hi :)
Scotlandspeople website has Fanny Robina Kinnaird birth 1884 Rothesay Bute
Do you mean Arthur Northam/Fanny Robina Kinnaird 4th quarter 1902 Cardiff ?
ev
Added - perhaps there is a transcription error on freeBMD ???
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You will need to check but I think this may be the family in 1881 :-\
Birnam Lodge Dunoon & Kilmun Argyll
Robert Kinnaird 31 gardner born Leith
Elizabeth Kinnaird 30 Northhampton
E. I. B. Kinnaird 7 daur. b. Govan Lanark
Annie Kinnaird 4 b. Govan Lanark
Robert S Kinnaird 2 Innellan Argyll
ev
Added - Robert Kinnaird / Elizabeth Minards marriage 9th July 1872 Govan Lanark(IGI)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT6G-54N
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Sorry it is Arthur. Thanks very much all info a great help
Heather
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Hello all,
1855 to 2009, there is only one Fanny Robina Kinnaird born in Scotland. (as noted by 'ev').
She was born on 01 April 1884 at 5.30 pm at 12 Ra??? Street, Rothesay, in the County of Bute. Her father was Robert Kinnaird - a gardener and her mother Elizabeth Kinnaird (M S Minards). Date of parents marriage on the download is '1872 July - Govan'
If you pm me your e-mail I'll forward the download - which is a good quality one. Regards, Steve :)
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And as I couldn't resist it, went and downloaded Robert and Elizabeths marriage (from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) - quite a poor quality one - but readable.
They were married on the 9th July 1872 at 10? sborne Place, Govan, in the County of Lanark. They were married " After Banns according to the Forms of the Established Church of Scotland".
Robert Kinnaird - Gardener (Jobbing), Bachelor aged 22 married Elizabeth Minards - Domestic Servant, Spinter aged 22.
Roberts address: 195 Crookston Street, Glasgow.
Elizabeths address: 108 (looks like Eglanton), Street , Glasgow.
Roberts parents: Robert Kinnaird - Machine Bolt Maker & Ann Kinnaird (MS Moffatt (deceased).
Elizabeths parents: Samuel Minards - Boat Maker Journeyman & Elizabeth Minards (MS Gardner).
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A look on the IGI brings up the birth of an Elizabeth Janet Helen Kinnaird to Robert and Elizabeth Minards. Born on 17 may 1873, Govan, Lanark (looks like a poor transcription for 'ev's 1881 find).
A quick look on SP for the death of a Robert Kinnaird - birth 1 year either side of 1850 - only brings up the one before 1950 - he dies in 1927 in Glagow and is not 'yours' - he's a single man with different parents.
Can't easily see a death for an Elizabeth Kinnaird - other name Minards on SP.
Shall leave this thread for now for others to have further input
Regards, Steve :)
Update: if you go to www.freecen.org.uk and search for a Robert Kinnaird - born 1850 +/- 2 years, yuo come up with only one - he's down as a 3 year old with his parents and siblings in - Leith. Saw this last night ... and should have added it.
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1891 Census - 41 Watergate, Rothesay (Roll: CSSCT1891_175)
Robert Kinnaird 41 Gardener b. Leith, Midlothian
Elizabeth Kinnaird 40 b. England
Annie Kinnaird 14 b. Govan, Lanarkshire
Robert Kinnaird 12 b. Innellan, Argyle
Fanny Kinnaird 7 b. Rothesay, Bute
Mary Kinnaird 4 ditto
Lydia Kinnaird 2 ditto
Isabella Kinnaird 1mo. ditto
1901 Census - 37 Watergate, Rothesay (Roll:CSSCT1901_187)
Robert Kinnaird 51 Gardener (Jobbing) b. Leith
Elizabeth Kinnaird 50 b. England
Mary L. Kinnaird 14 b. Rothesay, Bute
Lydia Kinnaird 12 ditto
James Kinnaird 7 ditto
Fanny working as a servant in Paisley, Renfrewshire as 'Nurse, Domestic'.
Annette
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Any info please
Fanny Robina Kinnaird b. 1884 in Bute married my ancestor Albert Northam. b.1881 in Devon They were married in Cardiff in 1902. Does anyone have any info on her or her family etc.
Cheers Heather
Hi I dont know if you are still gathering info on Fanny Kinnaird, If so let me know. Fanny was my great aunt. Cheers George. PS I am away for a few days.
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The Fanny Kinniard you are wanting to know about was my Great Aunt If you still want info please contact me
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Hi, I am also related to Fanny Robina Kinnaird and wondered if you could tell me when and where she and her husband died. I have her husband as Arthur Northam rather than Albert Northam. This information comes from the England Marriage Index 1837-1915. In searching for a death record in the English Death Index 1916-2007 I could not find a match for either of them.
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Hello
Fanny Robina Northam nee. Kinnaird died in Karori Wellington New Zealand in 1939 . Arthur Northam died same place in 1973. They emigrated to New Zealand after they married together with a few of Fanny's siblings.They had a son Albert Edward Northam born c 1911 who also died in Wellington NZ in 1939.
Hope it helps
Heather
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Thank you, that is incredibly helpful. Do you happen to know what became of their daughter Evelyn Northam--who she married and when and where she died. I found the UK Outward Passenger List that shows her traveling with her parents to New Zealand on the Ship Arawa, Master Geo Burton that departed London, England on 9 Jan 1908. Thanks and best wishes.