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Title: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: Melbell on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm hoping someone might help me find the marriage of John RANKIN to Lydia N/K.

John was born c. 1789 in Braintree.  Lydia was born c. 1789 - 92 in Stocking or Furneux Pelham (Herts).  Their children, baptised in Rayne, were: Emma 1822, Thomas 1826, Lydia 1828, Mary 1830, Abigail 1832 and Frederick 1835.  On 1841/51/61 Censuses the family was living at King's Farm, Rayne.

John died 1870 and Lydia 1872.

Any information greatly appreciated!  (I've searched in vain).

Melbell.

Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:15 BST (UK)
All Saints, Rayne

John Ramkin,widower
Lydia Chatters, widow
both of the parish
by banns
21st June, 1824
witnesses
Dan Rankin
Mary Ramkin

Dan was the only one what signed, the others made their mark, so would imagine Ramkin was the vicars way of spelling it.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne - COMPLETED
Post by: Melbell on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:19 BST (UK)
Dear Suffolk*Sue

That's absolutely brilliant!  A reply in about 13 minutes flat.

Thank you soooooooooooo much.

Melbell.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:22 BST (UK)
First marriage maybe.

Braintree registers

John Ramkin
Rachel Chatters
both single and of the parish
by banns
with consent of parents
19th July, 1813
witnesses
John Chatters
Emilia Chatters
John Collis = maybe parish clerk.


Rachel Rankin buried in Rayne, 23rd November, 1823, aged 30yrs.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:42 BST (UK)
Samuel Wilkinson
Amelia Chatters
married in Rayne
4th November, 1817
John and Rachel Rankin were the witnesses.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: willsy on Wednesday 04 April 12 20:33 BST (UK)
dates of baptisms from the register to John and Lydia Ramkin

Thomas 17 Jul 1825
Lydia 29 Jul 1827
Mary 19 Jul 1829
Abigail 14 Aug 1832
Frederick 3 April 1835

Found another written register with Thomas and Lydia's baptisms and the surname is written as Ramking
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: Melbell on Thursday 05 April 12 13:42 BST (UK)
suffolk*sue and Willsy

Many thanks for the extra information.  I found the Chatters/Chaters marriage on FamilySearch yesterday but it's great to have it confirmed from the register.  It must mean that John married his sister-in-law (Lydia).  I've searched about online but cannot find a marriage of a Lydia to a man called Chatters/Chaters, either in Essex or Herts. (where she was born).

Melbell
Title: Baptism of Emma RANKIN
Post by: Melbell on Tuesday 10 April 12 17:21 BST (UK)
I had always thought that Emma was the child of John and Lydia Rankin but in view of the above information I think it more likely that she was born to John and his first wife Rachel nee Chatters.

She was born c. 1822/3 in either Rayne or Bocking (according to census returns); or perhaps in Braintree?   Can anyone give me any details please?  And perhaps any sibling baptisms too?

Ta!

Melbell.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: suffolk*sue on Tuesday 10 April 12 18:12 BST (UK)
Found this bap. in the Braintree registers and wonders if he got himself baptised after he married.

John Ramkin
born October 4th, 1787
bap. 1st February, 1815
son of John and Elizabeth
father a bricklayer.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: Melbell on Wednesday 11 April 12 09:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the latest information: a good thought.   For what it's worth, I think my John is the one who died SQ 1870 aged 77 (haven't bought cert. yet) so would be born 1793.  1851 Census indicates c.1789 and 1861 indicates c.1796.

Melbell.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 11 April 12 10:06 BST (UK)
Rayne

John Rankin buried 5th September, 1870 aged 77yrs...........abode Braintree Union.
Lydia Rankin buried 9th January, 1872 aged 77yrs........abode Braintree Union.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: Melbell on Wednesday 11 April 12 15:39 BST (UK)
Even more thanks!!!

(Won't be able to access Rootschat for a week or so, but will return to the fray thereafter.......)

Melbell.
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: brianchatters on Wednesday 10 October 18 23:08 BST (UK)
A somewhat belated reply! I found your query by chance so you may have already updated your information regarding John and Lydia Ramkin. According to the IGI, Lydia was baptised Jan 6, 1793 in Furneaux Pelham, daughter of William and Lydia Rand. She first married Francis Chatters in Furneaux Pelham Oct 25, 1816. Francis was the brother of Rachel Chatters who first married John Ramkin.

Regards
Title: Re: RANKIN in Rayne
Post by: Melbell on Friday 12 October 18 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Brian

Thanks for your message.  You are right, my research has moved on since this thread.  I found out about the Rankins/Chatters links.  But I've eliminated them from my enquiries because I'm now convinced that the Emma Rankin I'm interested in is not the daughter of John Rankin after all, but of John Boardman and Sarah Rankin; she was born 23 September 1821 and baptised 17 March 1822 at the Independent Chapel in Braintree.

My problem now is pinning down her mother Sarah Rankin!

Thanks again,
Melbell