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Title: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Gossamer on Saturday 21 April 12 22:17 BST (UK)
We have been seeking our Agnew family links for many, many years to no avail.   I have joined the Agnew DNA surname project, publish an international Agnew newsletter , and maintain the Agnewseverywhere.com site in an effort to find relations.  Are there any Agnews in the Larne area interested in sharing information and/or interested in submitting DNA?   I would love to hear from you.

My John Agnew was born in 1818 or 1819 in Co. Antrim, was apprenticed to a tailor, and ended up in Northern N.Y. surrounded by countless Ulster Scots.  I suspect John and his sister Eliza Jane (married James Gettys) are from Larne due to suspected connections with another Agnew line.  I'd love to hear from other Agnews.  I also suspect we may descend from the O Gnieve/O Gnimhs.   I am interested in any and all Agnews in the Larne area. 

Please drop me a line.
Barb
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: t_creaney on Sunday 22 April 12 16:10 BST (UK)
I am not an Agnew but do have a connection with an Agnew family from Larne through my Moffett side.

James Agnew married Sarah Jane Moffett 5 March 1900. James was a tailor, the son of Patrick Agnew a farmer & wife Jane. Patrick & Jane lived at Kilwaughter close to Larne, they can be found on the 1901 census, Patrick is on in 1911 by which time Jane has deceased.

James & Sarah Jane moved to Belfast and can be found on the 1911 census with several children living in Burlington Street

I have not researched the Agnews any further back nor forward, but I understand that there are descendants of James Agnew in Belfast.

Perhaps this will link into your research.

tc 
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: jimchelsea on Sunday 22 April 12 16:56 BST (UK)
Hi
IGI have a birth record for a John Agnew, born 17 OCT 1819   Donegore, , Antrim, Ireland ,parents names were Samuel Agnew and Betty Henry, if thats of any help
jim
 
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 22 April 12 17:04 BST (UK)
IGI have a birth record for a John Agnew, born 17 OCT 1819   Donegore, , Antrim, Ireland ,parents names were Samuel Agnew and Betty Henry, if thats of any help

Since it's a submitted record this would need to be treated with caution.
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Gossamer on Sunday 22 April 12 17:20 BST (UK)
To All Responses

Thank you for the responses I have had so far.  It is enlightening that people are trying to help.    I found the Agnew-Moffet hint of great interest due to so many surnames which turn up in Canada and I certainly have found collaterals in Canada.  I will continue to pursue it.


The Samuel Agnew-Elizabeth Henry line is one I have examined inside and out because I suspect we relate to it.  My John is constantly attached to it because his birth year and that of their son is so close.  Sam and Elizabeth's son never left the UK where he served in Englan in the military and then returned to Ireland.  He is buried in Donegore with many of his ancestors.     I suspect Samuel Agnew had a brother who would have been the father to my John.  I believe William of Ballysavage was Samuel's brother and I know SAmuel had a sister Jane who married James Rea and lived at Tobergill.  Many of the descendants are here in the States and some of the Reas lived almost next door to my John, but I have not been able to connect them.

Thanks for you input.   
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: KeithAgnew on Thursday 03 May 12 10:03 BST (UK)
Hello. It was your reference to Donegore that caught my attention.
My name is Keith Agnew, I live in Dunmurry outside Belfast in County Antrim, Northern Ireland.


My Great Grandfather John Young Agnew owned 3 Farms in Ballysavage before his death in 1937.

He had a brother called William and a sister called Elizabeth both in Ballysavage.

They had a father called Henry Agnew. 1834-1908 Ballysavage. I am looking for his siblings.

He had a father called John Agnew. 1786-1852 Ballysavage. I am looking for his siblings and parents.

These guys are all buried in the same plot. I have a photo and a transcription.


As it happens I am off this morning to the Public Records office to look through old church records.
Not sure if this fits in anywhere with you, but I would be surprised if it didnt.

Keith

Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: KeithAgnew on Sunday 06 May 12 00:02 BST (UK)
Hi
IGI have a birth record for a John Agnew, born 17 OCT 1819   Donegore, , Antrim, Ireland ,parents names were Samuel Agnew and Betty Henry, if thats of any help
jim
 

to fill in the gaps, I got this from the records office in Belfast. MIC1P/79 First Donegore Presbyterian

All children of Samuel Agnew and Betty Henry of Donegore
FIRST NAMES                                                   SURNAME                          DOB
William                        Agnew                      18/10/1813   
James                        Agnew            29/01/1816   
Samuel                        Agnew            18/03/1818   
John                                Agnew            17/10/1819   
Agnes                        Agnew            30/12/1821   
Thomas                        Agnew            18/10/1823   
George           Augustus Chichester      Agnew            08/07/1825   
Anna                        Agnew            30/03/1832   
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Gossamer on Sunday 06 May 12 19:11 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,  I am delighted to hear from you.  I am traveling in Austria at the moment and away from my records which are at home in Illinois.  I am in contact with a great many Agnews attempting to link them.   The PRONI records you found are for the Sam Agnew/Eliz. Henry family.  Their John is often mistaken for my gt grandfather who was born from record calculations in the Spring of 1819.  Their John was in the military and never left the UK and is buried in Donegore. 

My John left home at an early age and was apprenticed to a tailor and arrived in upstate N.Y. in early 1840's.  I have examined many early records and believe he ties into the Donegore/Ballysavage area.   He was suppose to have emigrated from Belfast, but we have not found any manifests for him or his sister.

My John's first son was Samuel John and first daughter Margaret Helen.  Clues are next to nil.  I have combed the Donegore gravelyard and am in contact with other Agnews in Larne area whose relatives came to States, but nothing solid.

I have the SAm Agnew/Eliz Henry line all researched if you are interested.  Henry has popped up in some Agnew emails.  I would like to correspond further with you
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: KiwiRose on Sunday 13 May 12 21:50 BST (UK)
Hello Gossamer,

I am not an Agnew but do have a connection through the brief marriage of Eliza Ann Elliott born c 1839 to David Agnew ( father, James Agnew) on 13 Nov. 1866 in Raloo, Antrim. Eliza's father, David, was a Kilwaughter farmer.

They had a child, David, b 14 Jul 1867, registered in Carrickfergus.
Unfortunately David Agnew snr died in the year of his child's birth at only 26 years of age.

Eliza Ann remarried in 1871.

This information may help with your Agnew jigsaw.

Regards,
KiwiRose
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Gossamer on Monday 14 May 12 07:43 BST (UK)
KiwiRose,

Thank you so much.  I will see if this fits into the puzzle.  Every little bit helps.

Best wishes,
Barb
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: FionaLorraine on Tuesday 22 May 12 19:16 BST (UK)
I am descended from the Trainor/Traynor family of Larne - some Agnews married in our family.  Do you know of them?
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Gossamer on Wednesday 23 May 12 03:08 BST (UK)
The only piece of information I have is the death of Mary E. Agnew Hamilton who died 1909 in Malden, Massachusetts who was the wife of  Archibald Hamilton.  She was born in New BRunswick to Michael & Elizabeth (Trainer) Agnew who were born in Ireland.  Mary and Archibald had Arthur, Margaret May and JOhn Walter who were all born in New Brunswick.
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: agnewjim on Tuesday 01 July 14 18:14 BST (UK)
I have a William Agnew b. ca. Dec 1806, probably in the Donegore area, possibly at Ballysavage Townland. He emigrated with four sons (John, James R., William Jr., and Henry L. Agnew) to LeRaysville, Bradford Co., PA in 1853. William's first wife, Jane ___, probably died in Ireland before they emigrated. He then married Judah ___, b. PA. Wm. is bu. East Herrick Cem., Bradford Co., PA. I also have a Samuel Agnew, b. ca. 1785 in Antrim, Ireland (Ballysavage?), d. 1854, bu. Stevensville Cemetery, Bradford Co., PA. Samuel's wife was Sarah/Sally ___. Sarah was living in 1860 with William Agnew, Jr. in LeRaysville, Bradford Co., PA. I do not know the relationship between William and Samuel, but they obviously knew each other. I suspect that Samuel was an uncle or cousin, rather than my William's father, as there was another William Agnew & his family living next door to Samuel in Pike Twp., Bradford Co., PA, who were probably related to him as well. I am descended from Henry Leslie Agnew (b. 1845 Ireland, my great grandfather), who is also bu. East Herrick Cem. Would love to correspond with anyone researching AGNEW in or around Donegore area, especially in the Ballysavage Townland area. I had my Y-chromosome sequenced and found that I share all 37 markers with Keith Agnew of Northern Ireland. He says his Agnew ancestors are from the Ballysavage Townland area.
Jim Agnew (James Dennis Agnew), age 59
Rocklin, Placer Co., California
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 02 July 14 12:41 BST (UK)
The Agnews listed holding Tithe Applotments records in 1833 see
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/donegore-parish.php#.U7Pn5BaDoYU
sorted by townland
Ballysavage
Agnew, James  Ballysavage townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Agnew, John  Ballysavage townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Agnew, Willm.  Ballysavage townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Donegore
Agnew, Saml. Donegore townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Island Rea
Agnew, Henry Island Rea townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Tobergill
Agnew, Dr.  Tobergill Townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Agnew, Jas.  Tobergill Townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen
Agnew, Saml.  Tobergill Townland, Parish : Donegore/Grange of Nilteen County : Antrim

The website is only complete in alphabetical terms down to Killagan in the parishes completed so far.   Larne should appear soon. If not someone needs to visit PRONI Belfast
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Chiph on Friday 27 May 16 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
Very happy to find this thread. I've been looking for an Agnes (Nancy) Agnew that was the wife of a John Graham from Armagh. I have her son's marriage record from Midlothian, Scotland. He was Edward Patrick Graham born 1833, who moved from Ireland to Scotland, to Pennsylvania. The record says Agnes was deceased by 1861 when the wedding took place. The Agnes already mentioned would have been too young. A lot of public trees say she was from Antrim, but I have found any records that support. Thanks!
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 27 May 16 18:08 BST (UK)
Larne is available
Agnew, Townland: Anteville Year: 1834
Agnew, P., Esq.   Townland: Curran and Drumalis Year: 1834
Agnew, P., Esq.   Townland: Larne Gardens Year: 1834
Agnew, Patk., Esq.   Townland: Curran and Drumalis Year: 1834
Agnew, Saml.   Townland: Larne Parks Middle Division Year: 1834
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Chiph on Friday 27 May 16 18:17 BST (UK)
Fantastic, thanks!
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: carolfblack on Sunday 17 March 19 12:38 GMT (UK)
hi Barb and all,
My DNA links me to the Irish Agnews, O'Gnihms line, I found out recently. Barb, we have spoken before. My family tree research goes back to a James Agnew in Cincinnati, Ohio. IN 1850 he is there, along with a new wife, Mary Ann Freeman, and new baby son, Alfred Freeman. James says he was born in Ohio in 1808. Mary was born in PA. There is an older Samuel Agnew (I think visiting) them in their household in 1850. HE doesn't ever show up again with them. Samuel also says he was born in PA. There is ALSO, my great-grandfather, James A. Agnew, a little boy of 8. Due to Mary Freeman's age, I believe the 8-yr-old James is the child of another mother. The little boy James is listed at the BOTTOM of that census page, with an asterik * linking him to *Samuel Agnew in this household further up the page. However, Samuel is the last one listed with the household so it could just be linking 8-yr-old James to this family above. We have never figured out why he is at the bottom of the page, or who is mother is. IN any case, I have never found anything earlier than this 1850 census on this family. (Is the 8-yr-old the older James' son? Is he Samuel's son? Did Samuel bring him to this family?) WE DO know he stays connected to this family, has a daughter later in life and brings her TO James and Mary to finish raising her. But by 1860 the 8-yr-old James is not in this household. We think, probably he is leaving to join the Union Army.

sincerely,
Carol Agnew Black, Agnew family tree on ancestry.
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: Noelle Weigel nee Brown on Wednesday 04 October 23 03:29 BST (UK)
Hi! I am an Agnew descendant in the USA. I am working hard to find my GGGG Grandfather, Patrick Agnew, who immigrated from Ireland in the early 1800s. He is listed as being born in Larne, Co Antrim, in 1815. He was a staunch Catholic, so I assume his family was Catholics.

I have had a lot of trouble finding him...
One possible story is that he is one of the illegitimate children of Edward Jones Agnew of Kilwaghter Estate with Eleanor Gailbraith (their oldest 2 children, William & Maria were legitimized to inherit). The Peerage list states that at the time of legitimation of William, Eleanor and the rest of the children were sent to America. William, the older brother was born in 1812, my Patrick was born in 1815. JUST A THEORY!

I would really appreciate any insight anyone might have. As far as the records online can show (most of the uploaded record for Ireland are the Protestant records) Patrick never existed until he pops up in America as an adult - the first record I have is a marriage with Bridget McIver in America.
Many thanks!
Title: Re: Agnews in Larne area
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 November 23 09:39 GMT (UK)
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As far as the records online can show (most of the uploaded record for Ireland are the Protestant records) Patrick never existed until he pops up in America as an adult - the first record I have is a marriage with Bridget McIver in America.

Actually that's not quite accurate. Many R.C. Irish parish registers, far more than any other denominations I would say, are online (free)-
https://registers.nli.ie/

The bigger problem is that the dates you are looking for is too early for many Irish records.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0389 (baptisms start 1869)
A pay site does have earlier baptisms but only from 1860- https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0389&parish=Ballyclare

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1142 (baptisms from 1821)