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Title: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Sunday 22 April 12 08:25 BST (UK)
was at ditcheat in 1871 would like to know  who his family was pleas
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 22 April 12 08:48 BST (UK)
Hi must get some sleep but will leave census ref for others to help you:-

Albert Webb b 1829 Ditcheat Somerset
Census ref RG10/2441/19/3
Keyboard86
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 April 12 09:00 BST (UK)
Not sure why this has been posted under Oxfordshire?

1871 census, as found by Keyboard86:

Webb, Albert  Head  M  42  Ag Lab  b Ditcheat, Somerset
Webb, Mary A  Wife  F  40
Webb, James  Son  M  16  Labourer
Webb, John  Son  M  13  Labourer
Webb, Lucy  Daughter  F  10  Scholar
Webb, Reuben  Son  F  8  Scholar
Webb, Albert  Son  M  4  Scholar
Webb, Sarah A  Daughter  F  2
Webb, Adelaide  Daughter  F  4 months                  all born Ditcheat

1861 census, RG09, 1660, 21, 7
Ditcheat

Webb, Albert  Head  M  32  Ag Lab 
Webb, Mary A  Wife  F  30
Webb, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  8
Webb, James  Son  M  6 
Webb, John  Son  M  4
Webb, Lucy  Daughter  F  6 months     all born Ditcheat


1851 census: HO107, 1933, 279, 6
Alhampton Lane, Ditcheat

Webb, James  Head  Widower  M  56  Ag Lab
Webb, Albert  Son  M  23  Ag Lab
Webb, James  Son  M  20  Ag Lab              all born Ditcheat


And 1841 census: Ho107,963, 3/12, 1
Alhampton, Ditcheat

Webb, James M  45  Labourer
Webb, John  M  20
Webb, William  M  15  Ag Lab
Webb, Albert  M  13
Webb, James  M  11                         all born in County


Marriage, June qtr 1852
Shepton Mallet district    vol 5c, page 1009

Webb, Albert
Wade, Mary Ann

(Only 1 bride and 1 groom, so this must be them!)
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Sunday 22 April 12 09:17 BST (UK)
on his son john theodor webb burial record died 10.1.1935 age 77 from  chipping norton oxon.i thought it would help
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 April 12 09:35 BST (UK)
Fair enough! ;D
As the family appear to all from Somerset, I'll ask a mod to move this thread to the Somerset board.

1881 census: RG11, 2407, 38, 5
Southwood, Evercreech, Somerset

Webb, Albert  Head  Widower  M  53  Ag Lab
Webb, Lucy  Daughter  F  19
Webb, Reuben  Son  M  18  Ag Lab
Webb, Albert  Son  M  15  Ag Lab
Webb, Adelaide  Daughter  F  10  Scholar
Webb, Joshua  Son  M  8  Scholar                 all b Ditcheat
Smith, Eliza  Granddaughter  F  4  b Evercreech
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Sunday 22 April 12 10:42 BST (UK)
is john theodore webb mentioned in 1880 /1890     etc  cencus pleas
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 April 12 10:54 BST (UK)
Why do you think the father of John Theodore Webb was the Albert Webb in Ditcheat?

Birth:
June qtr 1857
Shepton Mallet district    vol 5c, page 617
Webb, John Theodore
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Sunday 22 April 12 16:06 BST (UK)
john webb was in 1871 cencus at ditcheat and stayed in that area later we dont know where he was in middle years  we think he married twice dont know who first wife was he was about 40 when he married his wife  ellen
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 April 12 18:22 BST (UK)
So where is the link between the Webbs in Ditcheat and your John Theodore Webb?
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 22 April 12 18:39 BST (UK)
Hi their is this from the IGI:-

Christening Theodore John Webb 22nd August 1857 Ditcheat Father Albert Mother Marianne?

Keyboard86
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Sunday 22 April 12 22:12 BST (UK)
thankyou did john theodor marry twice as he was  in 40 when married ellen
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 April 12 22:23 BST (UK)
Where, and when, did he marry Ellen?
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 07:18 BST (UK)
they had a son albert 1894 so around that time  ellen came from henton somerset i suposed they married ? but we always thought he was married before thankyou for your help
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 April 12 08:09 BST (UK)
Hi this could be them, but the birth place of Ellen is not as you say:-

John Webb 40 occ Hawker b DETCHET
Ellen 27 b Plymouth
Albert 7 b Yarley
Henry 6 b Yarley
John 5 b Brent Knowe
Phoebe 3 b Yarley
Adaline 1 b Yarley
Residing at Fenny Castle Farm, Yarley
Census ref RG13/2315/106/9

Only one I could locate, and could not find  a place called Detchet, maybe their is/was one!!
Keyboard86
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 23 April 12 08:16 BST (UK)
I think the enumerator didn't understand the Somerset pronunciation of Ditcheat?!

Or, as John might have said: Thee casnt talk proper like wot I do do!!

Also, I think young John was born at Brent Knoll?


Possible marriage:
June qtr 1892
Wells district (includes Wookey)    vol 5c, page 901

Webb, John
+ and on the same page +
Barr, Ellen
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 April 12 08:29 BST (UK)
Hi again all, if this is correct family then Ellen is on RG12/1914/70/8 Father Henry Mother Harriett
Keyboard86 Very tired and off to bed, goodnight!
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 11:35 BST (UK)
you got right one sorry ellen was born plymouth but lived henton somerset most life so they must have mrried but we thought he was married before   your very helpful thankyou
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 23 April 12 12:24 BST (UK)
A possibilty for John in 1881?
Reference RG11, 2513, 60, 17
Old Passage Road, Pilning, Almondsbury, Gloucestershire

Palmer, John  Head  M  45  Railway Labourer  b Berkshire
Palmer, Eliza  Wife  F  38  b Gloucestershire
+ 2 sons, 2 daughters
Webb, John  Visitor  Married  M  22  Earth Miner  b Somerset
Webb, Caroline  Visitor  Married  F  24  b Somerset


And a possible marriage?
September qtr 1878
Shepton Mallet district    vol 5c, page 773

Webb, John
+ and on the same page +
Isaacs, Caroline
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 13:56 BST (UK)
thats him funny thing isaac is in family at other times thankyou so much
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 15:29 BST (UK)
did caroline webb nee isaac die young
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 23 April 12 15:35 BST (UK)
We haven't decided yet whether we have found marriages for the correct John Webb, and whether he did marry the ladies suggested!

You can confirm these marriages by buying the marriage certificates! ;D
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 17:58 BST (UK)
he definatly married ellen barr
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 April 12 18:59 BST (UK)
he definatly married ellen barr

Hi again, Atchoo with all due resepect you had a considerable amount of information re John Webb, the birth place of Ellen and the year of birth of Albert, if you had informed us from the beginning I am certain the questions that have got us to the position we are at present would not have been needed, in the case of the marriage to Ellen, I am of the opinion that you are correct and it is indeed Ellen Barr who married your John Webb, whether the "other" marriage is correct is another matter!!
Is their any further information you are wishing to be located?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 19:14 BST (UK)
thanks for all youv done i would love to know who caroline webb nee isaac parent are,
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 April 12 19:29 BST (UK)
thanks for all youv done i would love to know who caroline webb nee isaac parent are,

Achoo, as I and KGarrad have said unless you purchase the marriage certificate or someone obtains the record from the parish register you will never know if this is in fact the correct marriage, if in fact there was a  previous marriage at all?!
Keyboard86
Title: Re: albert webb born 1829
Post by: achooo on Monday 23 April 12 20:48 BST (UK)
thankyou for your help