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Title: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 13 May 12 15:34 BST (UK)
Background

Charles Brady senior emigated from Ireland to Canada - probably 1900-1910. We have details of his life in Ireland.

He married Mildred Equi and had at least two children -
 ... daughter DDD may be alive - she married? and had family
... son Charles S 1920-2000 .. we have records of his internment in Ireland after a plane crash in WWII, his decoration, etc

On the internet, I found a photo of a Grave in Toronto
.. Charles Senior, Mildred, Toni??? (not the daughter's name as far as I know) buried at sea 1993, Charles Junior buried at sea 2000.

Questions!!

... I haven't found Charles Sen on 1901 Census Canada (probably hadn't yet emigrated) or on 1911
... I haven't found military records for him - the family in Ireland said that he fought in WWI
... when did Mildred and Charles Sen marry?
... who is Toni? (wife of Charles Jun?)
... why were they buried at sea? .. would this be in a newspaper?

I realise that one can't access Canadian BMDs until a certain time has elapsed.
I live in Ireland so can't wade through newspapers easily.

Any good suggestions out there?

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: LindaGW on Sunday 13 May 12 15:56 BST (UK)
Here is a link to Charles Sr.'s military attestation papers for WWI in the Canadian Expeditionary Force:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0me1/
He is living in Brooklyn, NY at the time (12 Feb 1916) and lists his next of kin as a sister Mary in Dublin.  The latter fact suggests that he may not yet have married.
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: LindaGW on Sunday 13 May 12 16:12 BST (UK)
Death Registration for Charles Stewart Brady, from Ontario, Canada Deaths 1869-1938 on Ancestry:

County of York
Township of York
Residence      175 Glencairn Ave W.
Toronto Ontario
Name of Deceased     Brady, Charles Stewart
Male
Irish
Married
Age       54
Father       Michael Brady, Ireland
Mother                    Mary Begg (or Mary Becc), Ireland
Informant    Mrs. Mildred E. Brady
      175 Glencairn Ave
      Wife
Date of Death   October 6 1936

Cause of Death   Pycloniphitris (not sure if I have transcribed this correctly) 5 mos.
Contributory Cause   Spinal Cord tumor (duration 1 yr. 6 mos.)
Operations to remove tumor  on May 3 and May 26, 1936.
Signed       Wm. W. Priddle, MD  Oct 6 1936

Place of Burial   Necropolis Cemetery 
Date of Burial   Oct 8 1936
Undertaker   R.W. Miles
Address                  30 St. Clair Ave. W.
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 16:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

I see the photo of the gravestone on the FindAGrave site. 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0me3/

There is a paid site called pagesofthepast that allows you to access the Toronto Star newspaper archives. 

http://pagesofthepast.ca/

It is not very expensive...

I see the obituary for Charles Sr in the Wed Oct 7th, 1936 edition, page 30.  It says he died on the 6th, gives his address as the one Linda found, mentions his wife Mildred Equi and his 2 children.  They are Charles Stewart Brady and a daughter D V.  I won't mention her full name here, as you think she may still be alive.  The Requiem Mass was at the Blessed Sacrament and he was buried in the Necropolis. 

http://www.blessedsacramenttoronto.ca/history.php

RK

Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: LindaGW on Sunday 13 May 12 17:06 BST (UK)
Mildred Equi appears on the 1901 Canada Census, living in Toronto Centre with her parents, her paternal grandfather and her younger brother.
She is six years old, born Mar 22, 1895.  Her father, William J. Equi, of Italian origin, was born in Ontario 15 Sept 1864 and her mother Vic Ella, of English origin, was born in Indiana 16 Jun 1866.  No birthplace for Mildred is given.
You can view the census here:
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=104551&highlight=26   
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi, 

I was just going through the TOronto Star - and I am not having too much luck :P

I found Mildred's mother's obituary.  I see that Linda has just posted her name too... :)  She is Vie Ella Equi.  She died April 21 1955.  Obit is in the paper on April 22, page 40.   It is hard to read, but Mildred's last name is Ilseley?? now.  This may explain why I didn't find her obit in 1983.  Vie's obit mentions her grandchildren Charles Stewart Brady and D V Robertson.   Vie is in the Necropolis too.  FindAGrave has a photo.  The stone looks like the Brady's - I wonder if they are on the other side??

RK
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 17:45 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Not much luck finding Bradys in the paper, but I found Mildred's father's obit.  It is MUCH easier to read than Vie's obit.  William John Equi died Dec 3 1948 - obit in the Dec 6th edition of the paper, page 28.  It mentions his wife Vie Ella Birch and his daughter Mildred Ilsley (Mrs. I. Ilsley).  Vie's obit spelled it with the second "e".  So, Mildred married again...  to a Mr I (no full name given here) Ilsley/Ilseley, prior to 1948.

Grandchildren are mentioned aswell - Charles Stewart Brady and Mrs D Robertson (her own initial is D too).  Full names of the granddaughter and her husband are given, but as you think they may be living, I have put the initials. 

RK

RK
 
 
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: LindaGW on Sunday 13 May 12 17:59 BST (UK)
I notice that on the findagrave gravestone photo it says that Mildred Equi Brady (1895-1983) was buried in England.  I wonder if she also died there.

Linda
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 18:18 BST (UK)
Hi,

That sounds like a good possibility Linda.  If Mildred was born in Canada (or at least grew up here) and her parents and first husband are buried here, it would only make sense for her to be buried in England if she died there.  I can't find any obit for her in the Toronto papers.  Perhaps she and her second husband moved to England at some point?? 

The last name is Ilsley.  I tried to find a marriage notice, so I checked the social/weddings section between 1936 and 1948.  I didn't find Mildred's wedding, but I found an announcement of a shower given by Mrs. I Ilsley and Mrs G T Alexander for a Miss Anne Brown.  One of the guests was Mrs W J Equi.  The notice is in the Aug 19th 1943 edition, so Mildren had remarried before then.   

RK   
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi,

I had another good look through the social notices section of the paper and Mildred's daughter is mentioned many times.   There are mentions of her at parties, in weddings, playing tennis, etc..  A notice in the Oct 26th 1939 edition says that she is having a birthday party at the Royal York Hotel (the most elegant hotel in the city at that time).  In attendance are several guests, including the man she will later marry (Mr D Robertson) and Mr and Mrs I Ilsley. 

An announcement from May of 1941 has her at a wedding accompanied by D Robertson, who is a sportsman and has just become a Flying Officer with the RCAF. 

The March 6th 1942 edition page 26 mentions a shower for D.  Her mother Mrs ISAAC Ilsley and her grandmother Mrs Equie will "pour tea" at the shower.  THe wedding will be on March 14th in St. Clements Anglican Church.  Her husband has a couple of middle names which are given in this notice.  This should make him easier to find in other records. 

The March 16th 1942 issue, page 20, has a bit about the wedding.  The reception was at the King Edward Hotel (another grand hotel of that time period).  Her brother is listed as Bud Brady, an RAF Internee in Ireland, who celebrates his birthday on St. Patrick's Day. 

There is a birth announcement for the Robertsons - a daughter (unnamed) on April 17th 1943 at Toronto Western Hospital.  The husband is a Flight Lieutenant.

So, back to Mildred and when she may have married for the second time.    The Dec 16th 1937 issue, page 32 has the Equi's 50th anniversary write up.   Mildred is still Mrs Brady.  The jan 4th 1938 paper has a mention of D Brady hosting a shower at the home of her mother Mrs. C S Brady.

So, Mildred married Mr Isaac Ilsley somewhere between Jan 4th 1938 and Oct 26 1939.  I can't seem to find her wedding notice though - but the window is narrower now!!

RK 
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 19:36 BST (UK)
Hi,

D's husband D is mentioned in Despatches:

http://airforce.ca/uploads/airforce/2009/07/ALPHA-RO.1.html

Their wedding is also mentioned in the St. Thomas Journal...

http://www.elginogs.ca/Home/ancestor-indexes/newspapers/st-thomas-newspapers/sttj-1942-mar

RK
 
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 13 May 12 20:45 BST (UK)
Hi once more:

Mildred born in Toronto, Ontario -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VNGZ-2GT

Checked some available online Toronto Directories (most recent is 1922).

http://archive.org/search.php?query=publisher%3A%22Toronto%3A+Might+Directories+Ltd.%22

William J Equi sells liquors at 269 Yonge Street.  He lives at 412 Palmerston Av. 

1911 census for Equi family (must be mistranscribed everywhere... I had to find the family by the address)

See line 14...  412 Palmerston
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002029872.pdf

William is a wine merchant

RK
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 13 May 12 20:50 BST (UK)
wow, thank you all !!

- I'll have a proper look at these replies in the next few hours - just had a quick glance.
And I see personal messages too.

regards eadaoin

edit: I've had a good look at all you found, RunKitty and Linda.
You've answered most of my questions. thank you so much.

But who on earth is "Toni"?
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: polarbear on Thursday 17 May 12 15:50 BST (UK)
Re: Toni

My suggestion w/b to contact the cemetery directly and inquire about any information they may have about her (assuming female due to the 'i'). It is unfortunate that there is no maiden name given for 'her' as it is for Mildred. The cemetery may know whether 'she' was the wife of Charles Jr.

The 1921 Canada census is due to be released next year and this may shed some light on things.

PB
Title: Re: Help - Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto
Post by: eadaoin on Thursday 17 May 12 16:21 BST (UK)
thank you, polarbear
I'll put that on my to-do list

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **completed for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 22 May 12 22:53 BST (UK)
thanks very much to all who helped. I'm marking this completed (for now!).

When I have time to chase up Mildred's death in England,
... (edit: 29 May 2012 .... Mildred died in England in Torbay, Devon)
and the cemetery in Toronto for Toni etc, I'll post again to let you all know.

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 30 July 12 23:24 BST (UK)
Tonight, Googling at random, sort of ... I found another piece in the jigsaw.

airforce.ca/uploads/airforce/2009/07/ALPHA-BR.1.html

Charles Brady Junior died in Kelowna British Columbia 21 June 2000.
On my map, this looks about 200 km from the sea (east of Vancouver?)

regards eadaoin

Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 16 November 14 16:24 GMT (UK)
I found in the Winnipeg Free Press that ...

1. A Charles Brady and wife came to Winnipeg in 1948.
2. our Charles Brady worked in Winnipeg after the war in the Dominion Rubber Company.

would there be Electoral records for Winnipeg in the 1940s-1950s?

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 November 14 15:59 GMT (UK)
 F/L Charles Stewart Brady (J15499) - Distinguished Flying Cross - No.434 Squadron - Award effective 10 May 1945 as per London Gazette dated 22 May 1945 and AFRO 1147/45 dated 13 July 1945.  Home in Toronto; enlisted there 1 July 1940 etc etc

http://rcafassociation.ca/uploads/airforce/2009/07/ALPHA-BR.1.html

Sandra
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 17 November 14 18:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sandra,
good to get some more detail  - I'll cut/pastye that snippet into my notes.. (though Paul Webster actually survived and was interned with Charles as far as I know).

I've all the stuff about his parents (except the date of their marriage), grandparents etc, family in Ireland, and his internment here also.

I know very little about his marriage, why he died in B.C., why he was buried at sea ...

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 November 14 18:52 GMT (UK)
Death Cert of Joan Toni Brady - wife of Charles Stewart Brady.
Parents Henry James Olive and Marjorie Giles. Informant was her husband.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e7s/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e7t/

Birth of Joan was Q1 Jan/Feb/March 1920 - Hammersmith London - Mothers Maiden name :- Giles
1 a 549

Sandra

Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 17 November 14 22:15 GMT (UK)
That's brilliant, Sandra.
You've nailed the elusive Toni.
I always felt she was probably the wife of Charles, and this proves it.

regards eadaoin.

edit: I've just found a marriage in Hammersmith in 1944 - looks as though she might be a widow.
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 November 14 22:45 GMT (UK)
Excellent - that's filled a few gaps for you  ;)

Go léir is fearr
Sandra
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 12 January 16 22:50 GMT (UK)
edit: I've just found a marriage in Hammersmith in 1944 - looks as though she might be a widow.

I've finally sent off for this Marriage Cert - now that Sterling isn't so outrageously dear for us Euro users!
Thanks to all once again for the help.

Eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: manawakian on Wednesday 13 January 16 13:50 GMT (UK)
Noticed on Toni's death cert that she was cremated.  This probably explains the "buried at sea".  Her ashes might well have been sprinkled on her favorite rose garden, but this is possibly illegal in Canada so therefore the euphemism.
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: manawakian on Wednesday 13 January 16 14:07 GMT (UK)
For some reason the record and photo of the Brady family headstone on findagrave has been deleted.
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: eadaoin on Wednesday 13 January 16 14:27 GMT (UK)
For some reason the record and photo of the Brady family headstone on findagrave has been deleted.

yes, I noticed that some time ago, but I had downloaded it.
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto **COMPLETED for now!***
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 02 February 16 18:00 GMT (UK)
edit: I've just found a marriage in Hammersmith in 1944 - looks as though she might be a widow.

I've finally sent off for this Marriage Cert - now that Sterling isn't so outrageously dear for us Euro users!

Marriage Cert arrived today. Toni was divorced. Charles was stationed at an RCAF camp in Yorkshire.
It's nice to have the little details. Thanks once again to all who helped, especially *Sandra* for that crucial Death Cert.

eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 02 February 16 18:48 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome, pleased to have helped - a great result  ;D Thanks for the update, really appreciated.


Is fearr maidir
Sandra
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 02 February 16 19:26 GMT (UK)
Is fearr maidir
Sandra

I couldn't resist teaching you a little Irish, hope you aren't insulted!

regard for someone is MEAS - often a letter in Irish will end with "LE MEAS" = with regard

maidir is more "with regard to" . . "maidir le do litir" = "with regard to your letter"

(just tell me to get lost!!)

le meas,eadaoin!
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: Dennis Burke on Wednesday 08 May 19 12:35 BST (UK)
Hello there
its been seven years since this topic was active, and its breifly mentioned above in post#1 but the young Charles Stewart BRADY of the RCAF on 23 Oct 1941 found himself in the sea off the coast of neutral Ireland after his aircraft crashed.  He was interned with the other crew member who survived in the Irish Army internment camp in the Curragh Army base.  he was released on 18 Oct 1943.

I would love to make contact with any relatives of his.  there are a number of archival documents I have available and links to online accounts of his time interned, etc.

My website is:
www.ww2irishaviation.com

best regards

Dennis Burke
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 13 May 19 22:08 BST (UK)
Hello Dennis

Sorry for not replying sooner, but i was away until today.
I've certainly looked at your website before, though it's some years ago. I've been trawling though my BRADY stuff, and I have that photo of the crew.

I've read the book "Guests of the State" by T. Ryle Dwyer, which details his internment in the Curragh.
I got some information from Military Archives in Portobello Barracks in Dublin, and of course his cousins (my in-laws) remembered him being in contact.

I'd be delighted for any links you can send me, and I'll answer questions you might have (if they're not private family stuff)

regards eadaoin
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: Dennis Burke on Monday 13 May 19 22:46 BST (UK)
Excellent,

I would love a copy of the Irish Military Archive G2 report if you have it to hand, I am trying to gather them together for each of the 180+ events.

I have at the moment a summary of his wartime RCAF service, not including overseas service and am will tonight again try to extract all the relevant mentions of him in the 434 Squadron ORB (Diary).  His posting in is proving elusive.  I did note that the chap writing the Squadron diary at times mentions when men got married etc, I was hoping to cross reference the date of his wedding with the ORB to see if its mentioned.

If you drop me an email at dp_burke@yahoo.com, I have a few pages from the ORB to send on at least.
regards

Dennis
Title: Re: Charles Stewart Brady and family - Toronto search goes on
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 13 April 20 20:27 BST (UK)
Noticed on Toni's death cert that she was cremated.  This probably explains the "buried at sea".  Her ashes might well have been sprinkled on her favorite rose garden, but this is possibly illegal in Canada so therefore the euphemism.

Just found this tonight while googling absent-mindedly . . as one does!
I'd guess Toni's ashes were also scattered at sea.
And thanks once more to those who helped.

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theglobeandmail/

Published in The Globe and Mail on June 24, 2000
BRADY, Charles S., DFC (Bud) (Chuck)

At Kelowna, BC, on June 21, 2000 in his 81st year. Predeceased in 1993 by his much loved wife Toni. He is survived by his two sons S and P.
Chuck served with much pride his beloved Canada . . . . those who knew him to wish him well on his long, long trip to join Toni . . .

He will be cremated and buried at sea.