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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: sallyyorks on Friday 18 May 12 16:53 BST (UK)
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Hi there
Mary Ann Newey marries Elijah Brueton 24th Nov 1845 St phillips Birmingham
Fathers are
Emanuel Newey
Joseph Brueton (aka Bruerton)
Mary Anns family are on the 1841 census Birmingham , New Summer st
Ho107 , peice 1141 , book 10 , dist 27 , folio 7 , page 7
(twins do run in this branch of family)
Emanuel Newey age 45 - steel roller
Mary (wife) age 40
Ann 20 - spoon polisher
Elizabeth 20 -press? worker
Sarah 15 -chain/chair ? maker
John 15 -steel roller
William 5
Eliabeth 2
all born in county except Sarah and John
I am trying to find Mary Ann Newey (b abt 1820 , Birmingham ) on the 1841 census
There is a Mary Newey in Tanworth (in Arden) , Warks
HO107 , peice 1134 , book 9 , dist 3 , folio 44 , page 22
Samuel Newey age 50 - coal dealer
Hannah Newey age 55
Eliza Newey age 8
Charles Newey age 12
James Newey age 20
Mary Newey age 20
all born in county
(for some reason they are all listed seperately on the index)
The reason i think this maybe my Mary Ann is that her father Emanuel is listed as father in Tanworth Parish register for his sons marriage and that she may be staying with relatives . Or is she somewhere else ?
Thankyou for reading
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Ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 for 15 year olds & over so Mary will be 20-24 in 1841.
jim
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I think your Emanuel belongs to this Family all from St.Phillip's:
Christenings:
Sarah/1784/d.1787
Jonathan/1785
George/1790
Clary/1792
Emanuel/1794
William Frederick/1796
Sampson/1798/d.1799
Daniel/1800
David/1802/d.1802
Diana/1803/d.1807
Elizabeth Mary/?/d.1810
Parents Jonathan & Elizabeth Newey.
As you can see there is no brother Samuel.
Emanuel married Mary Goode 1818 in Handsworth so I can't see a Tanworth connection other than John's marriage.
jim
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I think your Emanuel belongs to this Family all from St.Phillip's:
Christenings:
Sarah/1784/d.1787
Jonathan/1785
George/1790
Clary/1792
Emanuel/1794
William Frederick/1796
Sampson/1798/d.1799
Daniel/1800
David/1802/d.1802
Diana/1803/d.1807
Elizabeth Mary/?/d.1810
Parents Jonathan & Elizabeth Newey.
As you can see there is no brother Samuel.
Emanuel married Mary Goode 1818 in Handsworth so I can't see a Tanworth connection other than John's marriage.
jim
Hi jim1 and thankyou for your reply . Yes that is what i have as Emanuels family (mother Elizabeth possibly nee Miller but not sure ) and wife Mary Goode .
Yes i noticed that there is no Samuel among Emanuels siblings , but neither is there a John.
Marriage at Tanworth in Arden 1857 - Emanuel Newey (now deceased) - steel roller father of John Newey
Just wondering who is best candidate for Mary Ann on 1841 census as the one in Tanworth seems to be the only one born Warks who fits as the others seem to be with parents
ta again
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Not sure why not having a brother John is significant.He has a son John who is the one married in Tanworth.
Samuel appears to come from a boat family & doesn't appear to have a daughter Mary Ann b.c.1820 but does have one born c.1811.
Samuel in 1881 says he's born B'ham so the connection may be there if there is one.
Mary may have been in service in 1841 & not included.
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Yes sorry , you are right re John. I was getting Mary Anns siblings mixed up with Emanuels .
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I can't find a connection between Emanuel & Samuel or Jonathan & Samuel so there's no reason to believe that the Mary Ann in Samuel's household is Emanuel's daughter.I wouldn't spend too much time over this as even if it is her it's doesn't tell you anything you don't already know.
jim
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I think i did work out once that Jonathan and Samuel are cousins. Both grandchildren of William Newey and Mary Hadley m 1735 . But nothing certain. I guess i was hoping that finding Mary Ann staying/working with relatives might give me some clues as to who her paternal grandmother Elizabeth was and area . There is a marriage at Kenilworth 1779 Jonathan Newey to Elizabeth Miller. But yes your probably right in that i do have info i need . Lucky too that Emanuel isnt such a common name . Ta :)
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The one married to Elizabeth Miller is John & he's from Kenilworth not B'ham.
john
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:-[ ah yes i remember now 'John' not Jonathan. . Do you think iv got as far as i can with this branch Newey/Goode ?. I have Mary Goode as father Thomas but thats about as far as iv got .
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There's such a dearth of information at this time you can never be sure if you've got the right one.There's a Jonathan born 1758 St.Phillip's to Jonathan & Mary nee Teston who could be the parents of Jonathan but that's about it.
jim
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Yes. And its a shame Birmingham wasnt included when Warwickshire Parish records went up on Ancestry not so long ago . Thankyou for your help jim1 :) . Much appreciated as i am not too familiar with the Birmingham area yet .
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The deal Ancestry had was with the War.CRO.They don't hold the PR's for B'ham which is a pity.
jim
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Re Tanworth Neweys and "boatman". It was William who was the "boatman" .
Samuel was a coal dealer .
This seems to be a possibility that she is next door to Samuel Newey as all the other Mary Ann Neweys of similar age seem to be with their parents . Though interestingly there is also a Maria NK (not known) with William Newey boatman at Tanworth who is also right age .
Id really like to find Mary Ann Newey on the 1841 census and need second opinions on where she is. (she is not with her parents central Birmingham ) or find her bapt or bapt for any of her siblings .
Mary Ann Newey b about 1820/1825 Warwickshire.
Father Emanuel Newey mother Mary (nee Goode) they married Handsworth 1818. . . .
Mary Ann married Elijah Bruerton/Brueton 1845 Birmingham
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Hi great information. Emanual newey was my grt grt grt grt grandfather and his daughter sarah was my grt grt grt I have some info on the neweys ( still trying to tie them in with mine )from the warwickshire ancestry project. Elizabeth newey widow with children.
William
Fredrick
Elizabeth
John
Samuel
Thomas and henry
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Hi great information. Emanual newey was my grt grt grt grt grandfather and his daughter sarah was my grt grt grt I have some info on the neweys ( still trying to tie them in with mine )from the warwickshire ancestry project. Elizabeth newey widow with children.
William
Fredrick
Elizabeth
John
Samuel
Thomas and henry
Hi there Evans :) Welcome to rootschat
Emanuel was my grt x 4 grand too
I have a bit of info as well and would like to share it. If you make a couple more posts, in any topic, we can then private message (it is a site rule to prevent spam).
All the best
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Hello, Mary Ann Newey is also my GGG grandma.
I got interested as recently my dad's elder sister said that the family were Jewish, and was trying to find the link. I think it is from the bruetons looking at my Great Nan may violet who was very unusual looking. ! Do you know any more about this ?
Thanks !
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Hello, Mary Ann Newey is also my GGG grandma.
I got interested as recently my dad's elder sister said that the family were Jewish, and was trying to find the link. I think it is from the bruetons looking at my Great Nan may violet who was very unusual looking. ! Do you know any more about this ?
Thanks !
Hi there Pixter !
Sorry it has taken so long to reply. We have gathered quite a bit of info about Mary Ann and Elijah. Thankyou for your reply to this and the other topic
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=487918.new;topicseen#new
Elijah b registered at Birmingham 1853 was the son of Elijah b approx 1819 (who married Mary Ann) . Mary Ann's father Emanuel Newey he is on the 1841 census, occupation 'steel roller' , her mother nee Mary Goode
Here is another link about the Brueton's
Topic Edward & Joseph Brueton - Gun Makers
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=715625.0
Joseph in above topic, b approx 1879 Darlaston, is Elijah 1817's father
Will try to send send you a private message now (you might have to make 3 public forum posts first though) .
Thanks again for your reply