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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Caernarvonshire => Topic started by: nainmaddie on Thursday 24 May 12 11:15 BST (UK)
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I am looking for the birth of Owen Pritchard born in Bryngwran, circa 1843.
I am also looking for his marriage , I believe to Ann Humphries born Porthmadog born circa 1843. I think the marriage was around 1868 when their son was born or before.
It is so long that I was working on records on the Lleyn, that I have forgotten which district Porthmadog came under. I have also tried for his birth, surely Anglesey would not be in Bangor district.
Please help me. I have so many Welsh lines that I am drowning in them at the moment!!!!!
Thank you in advance if you can help me
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I should have said that if you are a member of Gwynedd FHS their story is under the title of "
Landio'n Port " in the latest journal . They belong to a maternal cousin of mine , and I am trying to help her with further
details, but my translations are getting bogged down !! I still have some brain to help me translate
this article, but I am a little bit lost as to whether he was in Liverpool before the 1871 census in
Porthmadog.
Thank you
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Hi
Parts of Anglesey along the Menai Straits did at one time come under Bangor.
Porthmadog is parish of Ynyscynhaiarn/ynyscynhaearn. Registration District Ffestiniog pre 1935.
Emyr
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NorthWalesBMD has:-
Owen Prichard 1844 (mmn Williams) Bryngwran ref. BRYNGWRAN/01/E98
Registers at Llangefni
Owen Prichard and Ann Humphreys 1867 St Cynhaearn,Ynyscynhaearn
ref. DWYYNSCYN/1/E357
Registers at Pwllheli
Regards
Roger
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Hi
Owen and wife Anne living same house as her parents in Porthmadog, 45 Madoc St., in 1871, but shown as two families (i.e 2 'Heads').
1871 Wales Census>Caernarvonshire>Ynyscynhaiarn>Dist. 8>p. 49/50 Sch.284/285.
Owen and Anne both 28 and children, Thomas 3, Elizabeth 1, William 1month.
Joined GFHS some months ago but haven't received Journal. You mention moving to Liverpool, and the Journal account 'Landio'n Port'. Does this mean that they moved to Liverpool then returned to Port ? Owen, in 1871, was a saddler. I know a couple of people who are descendants of a saddler from Port, surname Prichard. It's possible I might see one or both on Saturday.
I have a subscription to Ancestry and there is a facility to forward copies by e-mail to 'friends'. If the recipient does not have a subscription then he/she has to access the info within 10 days. If you want me to forward the info this way, supply me with your e-mail address by Personal Message.
Emyr
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Thank you both Roger and Emyr for your help and the information supplied.
I used the NWBMD for the first time and put all the details I had into it and came out " with no results " !!! There is obviously a knack of finding what you need !!
I also went through the GR,BMD and found many births but none in ANY. Some were in Bangor, but I felt that something wasn't quite right. I had a funny feeling that Ffestiniog was right for Porthmadog.
Most of my papers with this information is in the attic , and I really do need to sort it out ;D
Thank you both very much indeed for your help
Madlen
Emyr , I will PM you re the details.
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You are more likely to get a "no results" return if you leave the default setting at "exact".If you choose"near" instead it sometimes helps with spelling variants as in Pritchard/Prichard and Humphreys/Humphries.Some data bases have a phonetic/soundex option.
Regards
Roger
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Thank you Roger !!
That is exactly what I did, so now I know what not to do.!!!
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Hi I am a descendent of William Pritchard Saddler of Bryngwran, probably same family?!!!
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Wm Pritchard b 1801 LLanddeusant son of John Prichard (saddler) and Barbara Lewis of Ty'n LLan LLanddeusant
census 1851 for Bryngwran comes under LLechylched
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Hi
Thomas Pri(t)chard, born c. 1868, saddler, born Portmadoc, living in Bodedern, Anglesey time of 1901 Census, with wife Anne J, born Borthygest c.1873, and sons Humphrey, 2, born Borthygest, and Owen, 1, born Bodedern.
In 1911, they're at Albert House, Ralph St, Borthygest, Portmadoc, Thomas now an 'Assurance Agent'. They've been married 16 years, had 5 children, all still alive, but only 4 listed. The additional children, Priscilla, 9, and Mair Harries Pritchard, 3, both born Borthygest.
Albert House, I assume, was named after the sailing ship 'Albert', which was lost with all hands off St Agnes, Cornwall, December 1890, captained by Humphrey Roberts, father of Anne Jane Pritchard. The house was built sometime between 1901 and 1911 Censuses.
Humhrey,s son, Anne's brother, Capt Humphrey Issac Roberts was the Mate of the SS Yola, sunk by an U-boat during WW1 (see below -copied from uboat.net website.)
Date: 7 Feb 1917
U-boat: U 55; Commander: Wilhelm Werner
Loss Type: Sunk West of Ushant. Sunk with all hands; posted as missing.
Location: 49° 34'N, 7° 12'W ; Route: New York - London
Cargo: wheat ; Casualties: 33 .
It was because of research re.the 2 captains I spotted the entry for Thomas Pritchard.
Emyr