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Title: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Sunday 03 June 12 13:01 BST (UK)
PATRICK MAHER married JUDITH GUILFOYLE on 12th October 1863

[I think, but am not sure ,  Judith Guilfoyle (Guilfoil, Kilfoyle) was born 11th December 1840 in Freshford.{ spelling can vary}
Her parents  Michael Guilfoil and Catherine Walsh]

They had a family of eleven.

Bridget who was born 14-11-1863.
Patrick who was born 08-06-1865.
Mary. (Patrick's twin)08-06-1865.
Catherine.who was born 28-01-1868.       
Ellen. who was born.19-06-1869.
Johanna. who was born 10-06-1871.         
Margaret. who was born 03-06-1873.       
William . who was born 30-06-1874.
Ann. . who was born 02-12-1876.
Rose. . who was born 12-06-1879.             
Elizabeth.who was born 12-06-1879.               
Rose and Elizabeth also twins.

( IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THESE DATES ARE BAPTISMAL DATES AND NOT BIRTHDATES AS THE INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED  FROM CHURCH RECORDS )

Bridget Maher was my Great Grandmother. I am  interested in finding some information on her mother JUDITH GUILFOYLE. (my great,great grandmother).
Anne Maher  (02/12/1876 )  married  ...     ? ..  St. John.

This   picture of Rose Maher, (my great grand aunt) , standing at the front door of a house with a small child of maybe 2/3years at her side.   It could have been taken from about 1929 onwards  (just guessing)



Any information  would be welcome.  Am trying to  broaden the info. that I have.
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Monday 09 March 15 22:52 GMT (UK)
Such   a  long time since  I posted  here.....            Still interested  in  finding    any   information  on   Maher  family   from Ballinstick..

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: anniedwyer84 on Tuesday 10 March 15 20:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Aislinn - I've been able to few church records in the Parish priest's houses for my own relations, and they are baptismal dates..the birth usually took place within the week before. If you know where all the children were born, you should be able to send away to GRO in Roscommon for a copy of their birth certs - a genealogy/research cert costs €4.

Rootsireland.ie gives Judith Guilfoyle to be born 1840 in Freshford to Michael Guilfoyle & Catherine Walsh. There was also a John b. 1843. Have found that Michael married Catherine in 1838 in Freshford also.

This is from Ancestry in Ireland's Civil Registration Indexes:
Name:    Edmond St John
Date of Registration:    Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration district:    Urlingford
Volume:    3
Page Number:    457
FHL Film Number:    101260
Records on Page:    
Name
Edmond St John
Kate Stokes
Anne Maher
Johanna Webster
Thomas Webster
Thomas Burke

I cross-refrenced it with records on rootsireland and found the marriage in Kilcooley - her father's name was Patrick Maher - you will have to buy a full subscription to view the actual record :-) I think this is Edmond St.John on the census - is a widower http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Ballyphilip/Curraheenduff/837952/

Hope this helps
Annie
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Friday 24 February 17 19:44 GMT (UK)
Rose  Maher, Ballinstick.  With  a  young child.  Prob a grandchild.
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Saturday 01 April 17 22:36 BST (UK)
I am  thinking,  the  child in  this  picture  with  Rose Maher, if  still living, would be 80 years + ..  It's a  long  shot,  but  there must be decendants   of   Rose, or   him/her  out there somewhere...  Would  love  to  know ....

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 02 April 17 17:24 BST (UK)
A lot of images of Civil Certs are online now, you may find something there. Marriages for the children perhaps.
For example here is Rosalie and Eliza birth certs
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02918/2069263.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Mr Bingley on Sunday 22 October 17 21:20 BST (UK)
Anne Maher would of been my Grandads (Patrick St John) mother,she passed away in March 1910.There is a daughter of Annes youngest son (James) who lives near curraheenduff.regards Paul St John
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Mr Bingley on Wednesday 01 November 17 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Aislinn,forgot to mention,Anne was laid to rest in the cemetery in ballingarry,my sister has lots more information about the St John,s,
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Thursday 24 September 20 16:13 BST (UK)
Anne's  sister Brigid   was  my  great  grandmother.  These  are the siblings  of  Anne.  ..                     .Bridget who was born 14-11-1863.
Patrick who was born 08-06-1865.
Mary. (Patrick's twin)08-06-1865.
Catherine.who was born 28-01-1868.       
Ellen. who was born.19-06-1869.
Johanna. who was born 10-06-1871.         
Margaret. who was born 03-06-1873. 
William . who was born 30-06-1874.
Ann. . who was born 02-12-1876.
Rose. . who was born 12-06-1879.             
Elizabeth.who was born 12-06-1879.               
Rose and Elizabeth also twins     .                           
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: AISLINN on Thursday 24 September 20 16:15 BST (UK)
These  dates  came  from Church  records  so it is possible  they  are  baptismal  dates,  not  birthdates.  But  they  are  close  .
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 24 September 20 16:39 BST (UK)

Johanna. who was born 10-06-1871.         
Margaret. who was born 03-06-1873. 
                           

From their civil birth records:-

Johana born 13th June 1871 at Ballanastick (sic)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03296/2207995.pdf
Ballynastick townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/slievardagh/buolick/poyntstown/ballynastick/

Margaret born 6th? June 1873
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03196/2172161.pdf

KG

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Mr Bingley on Thursday 24 September 20 21:45 BST (UK)
Maybe it was Ann (born 2/12/1876) that was my great grandmother then,her husband Edmond went to America with his eldest son Richard,regards Paul.
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 25 September 20 07:13 BST (UK)
Maybe it was Ann (born 2/12/1876) that was my great grandmother then.........

Anne was born 22nd December 1876 at Ballynastick. Her mother Johana was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03033/2111830.pdf

KG

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 26 September 20 14:19 BST (UK)


Catherine.who was born 28-01-1868.       

Ellen. who was born.19-06-1869.
 
William . who was born 30-06-1874.
                             

Catherine born 20th January 1868
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03453/2267941.pdf

Ellen born 29th June 1869
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03383/2240569.pdf

William born 1st July 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03136/2150095.pdf

KG

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Mr Bingley on Sunday 27 September 20 21:15 BST (UK)
According to the census of 1911 the Mahers and the St Johns were neighbours,Ann died,we were told during childbirth in March 1910,her husband Edmond along with his eldest son Richard emigrated to America around 1921,her two middle sons Patrick ( our grandpa) and Edmond jnr came to England,whilst the youngest son James stayedin Curraheenduff with his grandparents,James daughter Ann still resides in the bungalow next to the now derelict family house.Ann Maher (St John)is buried in the cemetry at i think Ballingarry,ive a photo of the headstone which also has  the name of Edmond and Patrick on it
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 28 September 20 12:44 BST (UK)

.......whilst the youngest son James stayedin Curraheenduff with his grandparents........


This is probably the marriage of James to Catherine Gleeson in 1942. She was residing in the townland of Mardyke.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1942/08796/5179542.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/slievardagh/crohane/crohane/mardyke/

It's about 7km NE from Mardyke townland to Curraheenduff townland (close to R690)
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5480485#map=13/52.5997/-7.5821

KG

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 28 September 20 14:33 BST (UK)

........ive a photo of the headstone which also has  the name of Edmond and Patrick on it


Patrick quoted on the headstone has a death in 1974. Here's the reference on FreeBMD.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Death Jul-Sep 1973   ST JOHN    PATRICK    13April1905    CLARO    2C   235

His birth record.....born 13th April 1905 at Grangefertagh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01783/1700586.pdf

Grangefertagh townland
https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/galmoy/fertagh/glashare/grangefertagh/

KG



Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Ellen Marie Murphy on Tuesday 20 October 20 01:30 BST (UK)
Hello,

My great-grandmother was Ellen Maher. She was the daughter of Patrick Maher and Bridget Mullally. She was born in 1847 and lived in Ballinastick. I am also closely related to other Maher families in the Parish of Gortnahoe (Ballinastick was in the Parish of Gortnahoe),  One of the other families lived in Ballinunty. That is the family of Patrick Maher and Bridget Mulhall. I have confirmed this through DNA matching. I'm wondering if you and I are related? Have you taken a DNA test? Would you be willing to explore if we are related?

Ellen
Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 October 20 11:08 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

One of the other families lived in Ballinunty. That is the family of Patrick Maher and Bridget Mulhall.

These are the Mahers living in Ballinunty townland in the 1911 Irish census.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01pyq/

....and in 1901.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01pyr/

Ballinunty townland in Graystown civil parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/slievardagh/graystown/new-bermingham/ballinunty/

KG

Title: Re: MAHER ... BALLINSTICK
Post by: Ellen Marie Murphy on Tuesday 20 October 20 11:37 BST (UK)
Several months ago, I began a blog about my research regarding the Mahers of Gortnahoe Parish, which I've been researching for many years. If you are interested, you can find it here: https://gortnahoemahers.blogspot.com/ I plan to continue my research into this area over time. I live in the United States. Many of my Maher relatives immigrated here, but I've also found relatives in Wales and England.