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I am researching my family tree and find that we seem to originate from the Cockerham area.
If anyone is also researching the Lamb family in this area please can you make contact?
My Great Great Grandfather was a William Lamb who was born in c1866
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Hi XColin,
Welcome to Rootschat.
I am not related to this Family but someone on Anc is (you may have lready contacted them)
She does not have the line back further than William Parents;
RICHARD Lamb, 1828-1897
Jane HARDMAN 1831-1905
Here is the Marriage, sorry if you already have it;
Marriage: 8 Feb 1851 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Richard LAMB - Full age Labourer Bachelor of Cockerham
Jane HARDMAN - (X), Minor (20 yrs) Spinster of Cockerham
Groom's Father: JOHN Lamb, Labourer
Bride's Father: ROBERT Hardman, Labourer
Witness: Edward Knowls, (X); Jane Davis
Married by Banns by: Jno. Newby
(Source Lancs OPC)
Christening;
RICHARD Lamb (Twin), 30 August 1827, Cockerham, Lancashire to JOHN/ANN
SIBLINGS;
MARGARET, 16 October 1825
JOHN (Twin) 30 Aug 1827
WILLIAM, 21 June 1830
ANN, 05 July 1835
THOMAS, 29 July 1838
JANE, 04 Oct 1840
(Source Familysearch.Org)
Possible Marriage;
John LAMB/Ann THRELFALL, 23 May 1825, Cockerham, Lancashire
Trish :)
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1841 they are all in Cockerham;
HO107/528/16/Cockerham
I am not sure I agree with Trees as I think John/Ann died pre 1851 Census as all the Children are scattered after 1841 Census. Esp the 2 Youngest Thomas/Jane who would be with Parents if they were alive.
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WILLIAM LAMB
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 NOV 1865 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHD. LAMB
Mother: JANE
Marriage: 8 Feb 1851 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Richard Lamb - Full age Labourer Bachelor of Cockerham
Jane Hardman - (X), Minor (20 yrs) Spinster of Cockerham
Groom's Father: John Lamb, Labourer
Bride's Father: Robert Hardman, Labourer
Witness: Edward Knowls, (X); Jane Davis
Married by Banns by: Jno. Newby
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1874, Page 122, Entry 243
RICHARD LAMB
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 AUG 1827 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN LAMB
Mother: ANN
ROBERT HARDMAN
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Marriages:
Spouse: BETTY KNOWLES Family
Marriage: 11 SEP 1829 Garstang, Lancashire, England
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Wow
What a fast response, that's filled in a few blanks with actual dates.
Can't wait for a couple of certificates to arrive to verify or not that I am on the right track.
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Their abode was Ellel and John was a farmer
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JOHN LAMB ( Born 1801 )
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 AUG 1801 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN LAMB
Mother: ELIZABETH TOWERS
Their children
1. Mary Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Female Christening: 18 JUL 1790 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
2. Hannah Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1794 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
3. James Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Male Christening: 13 MAY 1792 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
4. Agnes Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Female Christening: 21 FEB 1796 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
5. John Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Male Christening: 30 AUG 1801 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
6. Thomas Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Male Christening: 02 MAR 1783 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
7. Ellen Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Female Christening: 10 APR 1785 Cockerham, Lancashire, England [Remove]
8. Ann Lamb - International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Gender: Female Christening: 22 MAR 1788 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Marriage
John Lamb
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Event(s):
Birth: About 1755 Of, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
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Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Towers
Marriage: 03 OCT 1780 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
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Name: John Lamb
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Oct 1758
Baptism/Christening Place: Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thos. Lamb
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Many thanks for the detail information.
Looks like the Lamb's were a sizeable proportion of the population in Cockerham
If anyone has the Lamb family name and would like information on the Lamb family from William who was baptized on the 26th November 1865 please contact me.
My line from him is:- William > Thomas b1897 d1967 > William James Thomas b1918 d1991 > me b1950 and my brother Alan b1940. Thomas married Alice Elizabeth Evans and WJT married Enid Nancy Collins. Thomas and Alice Elizabeth had WJT, Eric, Ivor, George, Margaret (Braddock) and Dennis.
The Lamb's on this line are living in Morecambe, Preston, London, Maryport and Melbourne and most of Thomas's siblings lived in Lancaster.
One more question, is there a link from the Lamb's of Cockerham to the Lamb's of Aughton?
Colin
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Hi Colin
It may be worth taking a look at this site, you may find the connections to your family here.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Aughton/index.html
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Hi Colin,
Do you have burials for the Lambs in Cockerham? I was in Lancaster Library today - there are many Lambs listed in the memorial inscriptions for St Michael's church in Cockerham. These are not online. I had read your post but not taken it with me, so the following is a bit random I'm afraid!
On the memorials, place names of Hay Carr, Ellel, and Sandside, Cockerham were mentioned several times. Also Glasson Dock, Thurnham and Preston, but I couldn't see anything relating to Aughton.
There was a Rev. Robert Lamb d. 1872 age 60 that had been rector of St Pauls church in Manchester .
Another Robert Lamb of Cockerham died 1829 in America, age 50, although his wife Ann was buried at St Michaels in 1852. Robert and Ann Lamb had four children buried as infants 'interred at Maiden Bradley, Wiltshire' between 1813 and 1815, so they clearly got around a bit.
The earliest burial I could see was a William Lamb, died 11th Jan 1789 in his 59th year. The latest was another William died 1990 age 72
When you get your certificates, I could visit the church in the next couple of weeks if you would like any grave photos. And/or copy more transcriptions from the MI listings in the library
:) Barbara
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I have filled in some of the blanks today on the Lancashire Parish Records site, now have to use all the records I now have to fill in a comprehensive Lamb tree in the 1800's.
On Ancestry I have also found someone else who had researched this branch of the Lamb family and they have a line back to Richard Lamb b1584
Many thanks Barbara for the kind offer, I live in Preston and am often in Lancaster so I can go in and look, also I went to Cockerham on Tuesday to look at the houses John, Richard and William used to live in. Also I like the cat image, I have 3
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:) :)
There should be MIs for Aughton in the library as well, it was the same history society that transcribed both churches
http://www.lancasterfamilyhistory.org.uk/index.htm
good luck!
:) Barbara
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Barbara
Many thanks
I believe that the William you are referring to who died in 1879 may well have been the brother of my Great Great Grandfather Richard Lamb.
I am now sure that I am decended from Richard as his sons Marriage Certificate arrived today to give me confirmation and also the witnesses were his aunt and uncle Jane and Richard Raby and it is possible that Jane had an influence on William's upbringing as he is listed as living with them in a census return.
My tree trunk is complete I now just have the branches to decorate
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Hi Colin
I’ve been studying the Lamb family from the Cockerham area for about 6 years and produced a very large and somewhat complex set of trees. My research started through the Threlfall family as my great, great grandfather was Henry Threlfall (also known as Henry Lamb) who was born as the illegitimate son of Ann Threlfall about 1823.
The facts that I have found seem to be relevant to your research.
John Lamb married Ann Lamb at St Michaels Parish church, Cockerham on 23rd May 1825
“John Lamb labourer of the parish of Cockerham and Ann Threlfall (X) of the same parish spinster by Banns by those required by law on 23 May 1825 in the presence of John Threlfall and Robert Stirzaker?”(Lancashire record office Preston, Parish record PR1378 entry 319 pg. 107)
Initially I thought John Lamb was the son of John Lamb and Elizabeth Towers but I now believe that John Lamb is the son of Richard Lamb born about 1758 at Cockerham and Margaret Jolleys.
I’ve found a Baptism record from St Michaels Cockerham.
“John son of Richard Lamb Cordwainer on 12 Jan 1799” (Lancashire record office Preston, Parish record PR1371).
I have the death certificates of John Lamb and Ann Lamb nee Threlfall
Entry 226 “On eighteenth May 1847, Marsh, Cockerham. John Lamb male, 47 years, farmer. Died of phthisis four months certified. Informant was Richard Threlfall (X) in attendance of Death, Cockerham on Twentieth of May 1847. Registrar was George Drinkall”
Entry 158 “Death in the sub district of Ellel. On 13th April 1846 at Marsh Cockerham. Ann Lamb 43yrs wife of John Lamb, farmer. Died of Consumption, not certified. Informant was Henry Lamb, present at the death, Cockerham. Registered on 16th April 1846. Registrar was George Blizard”.
I haven’t found a burial entry for John Lamb but I have a burial entry for Ann Threlfall in the St Michael, Cockerham Parish records.
“Ann Lamb of Cockerham on April 16th 1846 aged 43 yrs.”( Lancashire record office Preston, Parish record PR 3251 entry 111)
John and Ann had 8 children, all born in Cockerham. I don’t know if Henry Threlfall was a son of John Lamb but he states that John Lamb is his father on his marriage licence.
Henry Threlfall (aka Henry Lamb) B~1823 Died 9th April 1887 at Hapton near Padiham, Lancashire
Margaret B~1825 Married Robert Whittaker 2nd Dec 1843 St Michaels Cockerham
John B~1827 Died 1852 Marsh, Cockerham
Richard B~1827 Died 1896 Cockerham
William B ~1830 Died 1830 Cockerham
Ann B ~1835 Died 1880 Pilling Married Robert Thornton 27 June 1857 at St John the Baptist, Pilling
Thomas B~1838 Died 1908 Garstang area, married Sarah Dobson 17 May 1862, St John, Outer Rawcliffe
Jane B~1840 died 8th September 1880 Cockerham
Alice B ~1844 Died 1844 Cockerham
I’ve found an 1841 census record that has John and Ann Lamb living at Marsh Nook, Cockerham
Richard Lamb born 1827 married Jane Hardman on the 8th Feb 1851 at St Michaels Cockerham and his sister Jane Lamb married Jane Hardman’s brother John on 18th June 1864 at St Michael’s Cockerham.
I have a Baptism record for William Lamb, the son of Richard Lamb
“William son of Richard and Jane Lamb of Cockerham, labourer, on 20 November 1865” (Manchester Central library MFPR 1012 entry 1624)
And a marriage record (Lancashire record office, Preston PR2688 pg. 64 entry 127)
“William Lamb 28yrs Bachelor, Labourer of Cockerham and Isabella Gorst 21yrs spinster of Cockerham on June 9 1894 by Banns. Her father was Robert Gorst, Labourer. His father was Richard Lamb, labourer. Witnessed by Richard Raby and Jane Raby, by George Wilks vicar of Ellel”
Although most of this branch of the Lambs is buried in St Michaels Cockerham, very few have Gravestones. There is a set of large gravestones in St Michael, Cockerham that belong to the Lambs of Hay Carr. Hay Carr being the property of a William Lamb Esq and his sons who were Land Agent’s to the Duke of Hamilton, who owned most of the land in the Parish of Cockerham. Unfortunately there is no direct relationship to the Lambs above.
If you have any other query feel free to ask.
Best wishes, Maggy
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Maggy
What a reply, I have the Lamb surname and my research into the family name has been a revalation.
Previously all we knew was my Grandfathers Name, Grandmother Lamb's maiden name was Evans and she came from Monmouth and that there was a Gorst somewhere in the past and also a Whitaker, thats all
Now I have 15 out of 16 Great Great Great Grandparents and the trees from them to the 1911 census and as far back as I can go.
Your information verifies my own findings and also fills in a lot of doubts, many, many thanks
William Lamb married Isabella Gorst who was the illigitimate child of Grace Gorst and I believe that the Robert Gorst listed on her marriage cert was in fact her Grandfather, I also have her birth cert and no father is listed
I did smile when I was filling in the tree that Jane Lamb became Jane Hardman and Jane Hardman became Jane Lamb.
Initially I did have trouble identifying my Great Grandfather William as there were quite a few William Lambs baptized in Cockerham. On Grandfathers marriage cert the witnesses are the Raby's so that gave me a positive match to the right William, Then getting his parents was a problem as he did not live with them during the census returns but he was with his Aunt and Uncle the Johnsons.
Now just how William Lamb in Cockerham met and married a girl from Nether Kellet was a mystery until I found them on the same farm in Middleton on the other side of the Lune to Cockerham on the Farm of a William Gorst Who may have been Isabella's Uncle, but I have yet to follow up that possibility as form Nether Kellet to Middleton would have been quite a trek on the off chance of work.
The Church records on line have been a great help.
Of my fathers and my own generation no Lamb's presently reside in or around Cockerham, I live in Preston, my brother in Morecambe, cousins (with the Lamb name) in Maryport and London
In my tree I have a questionmark against John's father as it is unclear if John or Richard is his father, can you please advics on your research into this link
I'd love to hear more from you on the Lamb's in general.
Also do you have any images of the Lambs, all I have is one picture of my Grandfather at my older brother's wedding
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Hi Colin
I’m always pleased when I can help fellow genealogists. I didn’t mention details about John Lamb’s parentage as I thought that I would start with information that I’m fairly confident about. I’m fairly certain that the John Lamb who married Ann Threlfall was the son of Richard Lamb and Margaret Jolleys rather than the son of John Lamb and Elizabeth Towers. I’m still missing a burial record for John Lamb to substantiate my death certificate information though.
From the 1841 census his date of birth is about 1801 and the IGI had a full family tree with all of John Lamb and Elizabeth Tower’s children, including their youngest son John Lamb baptised in 1801 at Cockerham. So it’s natural to assume that must be that John Lamb. However I knew both John and Ann Lamb died before the 1851 census and I just couldn’t find a death Index for a John Lamb born in or around 1801 who died before 1851 that was not an infant. I also had census data for a John Lamb and Mary Lamb who were living in Thurnham, this John being about the same age as the other John, but I had no idea of how they were connected to other Lambs from that area.
After finding a burial record for Elizabeth Towers it implied that Elizabeth resided in Thurnham before her death and it made me think that perhaps the John Lamb from Thurnham might be her son rather than the John Lamb from Marsh, Cockerham.
I also found a MI transcription for John and Mary who were buried at Christchurch Glasson; this gives a date of birth for the Thurnham John as 1801.
I had a three possible death indexes for adult John Lambs in the Ellel area who died before 1851 and sent for the one that seemed the most likely and found that I had got one for a John Lamb born about 1799 and died at Marsh, Cockerham, his occupation being a farmer. Then I found a baptism record for a John Lamb from Cockerham for a baptism on 2 Jan 1799, the son of Richard Lamb.
So, in Summary I think that the Cockerham John Lamb is the son of Richard Lamb and Margaret Jolleys, he was born about 1799 in Cockerham and was a farmer living in Marsh Cockerham and the other John Lamb married to Mary is the son of John Lamb and Elizabeth Towers, was born in 1801, lived at Thurnham and was a Dock Labourer.
I’ve put the transcriptions of the relevant records as another reply as my message exceeds the number of characters allowed if posted as one message
I think both John Lambs are related, being second cousins. There are a few trees on Roots web that have this Branch of the Lambs going back a few generations. I think these trees are based on IGI records.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com
The connection is:-
John Lamb’s father, Richard Lamb was baptised at St Michaels Cockerham”Richard son of John Lamb of Cockerham on 17 Feb 1759”
Richard married Margaret Jolleys 19 Nov 1782 at St Michaels Cockerham
Richard’s Father John Lamb was born about 1720 Cockerham
(IGI record Batch No.: P007282 Father JOHN LAMBE Christening: 17 JAN 1720 Cockerham)
John Lamb married Mary Charnock 20 Jan 1749 St Michaels Cockerham
John Lamb’s father, Thomas Lamb born about 1691 and married Ann Clark 25 May 1714 Cockerham
Another son of Thomas Lamb and Ann Clark is Thomas Lamb born about 1722
Thomas Lamb married Ellen Escolme on 18th June 1747 at St Michaels Cockerham and one of their sons was the John Lamb born 1758 who married Elizabeth Towers
If you want details about Ann Threlfall and her relatives, there is a tree published on the web, with the information consistent (and found independently) with my tree.
http://www.wardjc.com/people/p00000g7.htm
I haven’t any photographs of any of my ancestors other than my grandmother as an elderly lady. I found some photographs of the Raby’s on the website of the Fleetwood Maritime museum. Unfortunately they redesigned the website and took all the photos off but I imagine they are still held at the museum. These are of Dick Raby, fisherman and lighthouse keeper with his sister Janet at the two Cockersands lighthouses, 1950s. Source: © Robert Parkinson. Lancaster Maritime Museum (Lancaster City Museums). Dick Raby was the son of Richard Raby and Jane Lamb, who was the daughter of Richard Lamb and Jane Hardman.
Although my family lived in Cockerham in the early Victorian era, branches of the family moved out of Cockerham to the industrial towns in the 1870’s and 1880’s. My branch moved to Padiham near Burnley and one branch of the Threlfall’s moved to Morecambe and became fishermen.
Please let me know if there’s any other information you might have trouble finding in case I have something somewhere. I have stacks of A6 notebooks with parish records written down in pencil from my frequent trips to the record office at Preston.
Best wishes
Maggy
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Hi again Colin, here are my transcriptions for the records
John Lamb, born about 1758
Burial St Michael Cockerham PR 1381 entry 917 “John Lamb of Glasson on 8 April 1828 aged 69yrs”
Elizabeth Towers born about 1760 Burial Cockerham St Michael PR 1381 entry 1389
“Betty Lamb of Thurnham on 22 March 1837 aged 87yrs”.
Married 3rd Oct 1780 at St Michaels Cockerham
Their son John Lamb born about 1801 Baptism St Michael Cockerham PR1372
“John son of John and Elizabeth Lamb of Glasson on Aug 5 1801”
Census records for John Lamb born about 1801 Thurnham
1841 lived at No. 5 Thurnham Terrace, Thurnham
1851 lived at Dalton St, Thurnham, occupation Dock Labourer
1861 lived in Lancaster Union Workhouse, previous occupation Dock Labourer
Died 4 Feb 1862 in the Lancaster Union Workhouse and was buried on the 6th Feb 1862 at Christchurch Glasson
Entry in the Lancaster Gazette Sat 15 Feb 1862
“Lancaster. — On the 6th inst. Mr. John Lamb, timber agent, Union Workhouse, aged 61 years”.
Married Mary Hodgson on 12 March 1827 at St Mary Lancaster, She died 1 Nov 1882 and was buried on the 4th Nov 1882
They are both buried in Christchurch, Glasson and there is a MI inscription
“In remembrance of John Lamb of Glasson Dock died February 4th 1862 aged 61 years. Also Mary his widow died November 1st 1882 aged 78 years. Also Margaret their daughter died November 5th 1842 aged 18 years. Also James Marsh Robinson great grandson to the above born April 21st died May 10th 1893. Also Mary their daughter died November 27th 1914 aged 82 years”.
Baptism records for John Lamb born about 1799 Cockerham
Lancashire OPC
Baptism: 12 Jan 1799 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
John Lamb - Son of Richard Lamb
Occupation: Cordwinder
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1812, Page 15, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1278859
IGI
JOHN LAMB Pedigree
Christening: 12 JAN 1799 Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Father: RICHARD LAMB Family
Source Information:
Batch No.: P007282 1659 - 1875
St Michael Cockerham parish record , Lancashire record office, Preston Fiche PR1371
John son of Richard Lamb Cordwainer on 12 Jan 1799
Marriage certificate of Henry Threlfall/Lamb
The marriage was in the parish church at Cockerham on 6th November 1847, the service was according to the rites of the church of England. Henry Threlfall was 25 yrs old and a bachelor and farmer. Ann Physick (X) was 21 yrs and a spinster. Both resided in Cockerham. His father was John Lamb, a farmer. Her father was William Physick, a labourer. The witnesses were John Lamb and Mary Physick(X)
Lancashire BMD
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
PHYSICK * Ann LAMB Henry Lancaster, Cockerham, St Michael Preston CE3/1/188
PHYSICK * Ann THRELFALL Henry Lancaster, Cockerham, St Michael Preston CE3/1/188
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I am in direct line of the Lamb family of Aughton (St Saviour's near Halton). Earliest Lambe (sp varies through the centuries) was Thomas Lambe who was a customary tenant of the Earl of Arundel at Aughton in 1584. It would seem likely that originally the families might have been linked.
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Maggy
Again what superb information.
I have not found any John Lamb census record for 1841 other than the John at Marsh Nook Cockerham
I found the Lancashire online records a while ago and downloaded all births with the intention of trying to produce a full Lamb tree in the Cockerham area as far back as I could go, sounds like you have already done that. In looking at the John who was baptised in Jan 1799 I did find him myself but after a bit of research discounted him simply because the birth would probably have been in late 1798 so there would be a three year difference between this John and the John who was at Marsh Nook in 1841 and also as the father Richard was a cordwainer and that there was no similar trade in sons where there is with the Marsh Nook John. I may have discounted John 1799 pre-maturely
Funny that the John you suggest is a cordwainer (fine shoemaker) as the grandson of Richard Lamb b1827 married an Alice Elizabeth Evans from Monmouth where her family go back over 100 years as shoemakers.
I take it that you are descended from Henry Threlfall-Lamb by the way you describe him
You state that a branch of the Threlfalls moved to Morecambe well I was at school in Morecambe with a Threlfall, I now wonder if there is a direct link.
Colin
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Bridgebabe
I too would like to know if there is a link between the Lamb's of Cockerham and the Lamb's of Aughton.
I my case it would mean I am distantly related to my God-daughter as her mother was an Aughton Lamb
Colin
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Hello from Thurnham, next door to Cockerham. I have been researching the history and occupants of Thurnham and have a rather large database of names including Lambs (of which my next-door neighbour is one) which I have gleaned from many sources. I wish I could guarantee its accuracy, but part-way through, I learnt that I could have attributed info to the wrong person, because I found people with the same Christian name and Surname both born in the same year from different families! I will get a doc together and attach it for you in the hope it helps. I have them going back to dying in 1596.
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Many thanks
Some many Lamb's so little forename variation, its caused me a few difficulties.
I am confident going back to John b c1800, but which John as there is more than one but the couple I am descended from most definately is John and Ann nee Threlfall
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Curses! I have several Johns but not one married to an Ann. Can you give me any of his siblings or descendants so I might be able to tie him in with one of my Johns for whom I have no wife? I have an Anna Threlfall b.1865, but that is too late for her to be his wife.
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GReat records http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Below are the two John's who may be the right John, the Trees on Ancestry favour the b1801 John but Maggy who has posted above puts a strong case for the John who was baptised in Jan 1799
Baptism: 12 Jan 1799 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
John Lamb - Son of Richard Lamb
Occupation: Cordwinder
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1812, Page 15, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1278859
Baptism: 30 Aug 1801 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
John Lamb - Son of John Lamb & Elizabeth
Abode: Glasson
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1812, Page 22, Entry 28
Source: LDS Film 1278859
Record for Ann Threlfall
Baptism: 5 Sep 1802 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Ann Threlfall - Daughter of Richd. Threlfall & Betty
Born: 14 Aug 1802
Abode: Forton
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1812, Page 27, Entry 10
Source: LDS Film 1278859
Marriage of John and Ann
Year:1825
Supplied Surname:THRELFALL
Surname:THRELFALL
Full First name:Anne
Supplied First Name:An
Spouse Surname:LAMB
Spouse Full First name:John
Spouse First Name:Jn
Place:COCKERHAM
County:Lancashire
Record source:Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840
Data provider:Society of Genealogists
If you PM me with your e-mail address I'll send you my take on the family tree which I have put together using Microsoft Excel
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Hi Colin
Please excuse the long delay in replying to the previous posting. I’ve spent a few months photographing the graves in my local cemetery, taking advantage of the fact the weather hasn’t been too bad.
I’ve had a good look at all of the Lambs that I have and I can’t find any connection to Lambs living in the Aughton area.
I’ve tried to make sense of the relationships between all the Lambs in the Cockerham/ Thurnham area and have constructed several trees in the process.
The John Lamb that I think I’m connected to is the son of Richard Lamb (1758-1827) who is the son of John Lamb (1720-1766) and Mary Charnock
He is the son of Thomas Lamb (B~1691) who married Ann Clark.
He is the son of Richard Lamb B~1652 who is the son of Andrew Lamb (B~1618)
All these earlier connections are based on limited resources, mainly IGI records and uninformative parish records so they may be dodgy!
The brother of John Lamb (1720-1766) is Thomas Lamb (B~1722, D 1796) who married Ellen Eskholme and had 5 children of which
A son John Lamb (1758-1828) married Elizabeth Towers and whose family were based in the Glasson area.
A son William Lamb B~1754 who married Hannah Sourbutts
A son Thomas Lamb B~1759, I don’t know what happened to him.
The children of John Lamb and Elizabeth Towers
1. William Lamb (1781-1815) married Isabella Johnson. This family were based at Thurnham and had 5 children including a William Lamb and Thomas Lamb based in the Thurnham area and a son John Lamb who moved to Kendal, Westmoreland
2. Thomas Lamb (1780-1857) lived in the Lancaster area
3. James Lamb (1792-1869) based at Thurnham
4. Agnes Lamb B1795 who married a John Lamb at St Marys Lancaster 3 June 1816 whose family moved to Bolton le Sands. The John Lamb here is the son of Cuthbert Lamb and Dorothy Ridge, all from the Thurham area.
5. John Lamb (1801-1862) who I thought was my ancestor but I’m not so sure of now.
Cuthbert Lamb (1756-1827) is the son of Robert Lamb and Ann Laurence and lived in the Thurnham/ Ellel area.
He is the son of James Lamb (B~1683 Pilling) and Elizabeth Haresnape (B~1696 Cockerham)
They married 14 Feb 1715 at St Michaels Cockerham and had 8 children.
There are another family of Lambs based at Haycarr, Ellel.
The earliest I can trace these back to is William Lamb (1742-1789 Cockerham) and Elizabeth Threlfall (B~1742 Stalmine D1818 Cockerham)
They had 5 children, Thomas (B~1765), William (B~1767), Ellin (B~1771), Richard (B~1774) and Robert (B~1777, possibly died in infancy).
The son Thomas married Margaret Whiteside and had 12 children. One of these was Margaret Lamb who married William Brook Mortimer, a famous Statesman.
The son William married Deborah Parkinson and had 6 children
The son Richard married Isabella Jane Parkinson and had 4 children all living in the Cockerham area
Ellin Lamb married Ralph Gerrard and they lived in the Cockerham area.
The Haycarr Lambs have prominent graves in St Michaels, Cockerham.
The Lambs connected to Cuthbert Lamb have graves in both St Michaels and Christchurch Glasson.
There are a lot of children in these trees that I haven’t traced so there is a possibility that there are connections with Lambs in other areas. It’s a bit of a nightmare as they tend to name their offspring John, William and Thomas!
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The Henry Threlfall who is the son of John Lamb comes from a line of Threlfalls that originate from the Goosnaugh/ Woodplumpton area. Henry Threlfall is my great, great grandfather. His eldest son John is my great grandfather and his daughter Sarah Ellen Threlfall is my maternal grandmother. Henry’s mother Ann is the daughter of Richard Threlfall and Elizabeth Townson. I can’t find any connection with the Elizabeth Threlfall who married William Lamb though.
A brother of Richard Threlfall, Thomas, moved to Poulton Le Sands area and some of the Threlfalls in this area originate from him. Of course they called all their offspring Thomas, Richard and Robert.
I’ve just discovered that Ancestry have now scanned copies of Baptisms/Burials and marriages for the Lancashire area. Unfortunately there are none for Cockerham yet but they do have ones for the Glasson/ Ellel areas.
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MaggyH - just seen this and I have info on both Threlfalls and Lambs. I got a lot of info for my Thurnham inhabitants which I am researching off this: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Cockerham/index.html. Re- Threlfalls, I have an Alice d.1776, Anna b.1865, Isabella b.1854, James b.1821, John m.1763 to Sarah Nicholson at St. Michaels-on-Wyre, Margaret b.1742, Margaret b.1850, Thomas b.1848, William b.1800, William b.1852. I can provide further info, including sources, for both families in a doc if I can find out how to do it on here, or you can e-mail me directly. Please klet me know which is best for you.
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Maggie
You are a star
I have not been looking further into the Lamb's
Been very busy with Preston Guild activities
I'll have a look a see how the information fits in with my tree and get back to you
Take care
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Thanks for the information tortiegirl
I’ve been using the Lancashire OLPC site for a few years now and they’re an extremely informative site. I also use Lancashire BMD very frequently as most of the Lancaster births now have maiden names included so it’s very useful to check that I’ve got the right families from census records.
I have these Threlfalls in my tree. They’re descendents of Thomas Threlfall and Margaret Whiteside. Their son James B1783 married Isabella Johnson at St Marys, Lancaster on the 12th September 1818. She was the widow of William Lamb B1781, the son of John Lamb and Elizabeth Towers so there is another connection between Threlfalls and Lambs.
Marriage: 12 Sep 1818 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancs.
James Threlfall - Husbandman of Ashton in this parish
Isabella Lamb - (X), Widow of Thurnham in this parish
Witness: Jane Overend, (X); Wm. Rushton; R. Bainbridge
Married by Licence by: Joseph Rowley Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1819, Page 272, Entry 815
Source: LDS Film 1526200
Another son, Richard Threlfall married Betty Townson and had 6 children
Thomas THRELFALL Birth: 20 APR 1799
William THRELFALL Birth: 17 NOV 1800
Anne THRELFALL Birth: 1802, Cockerham, Lancs
John THRELFALL Birth: 14 FEB 1805, Cockerham, Lancs.
James THRELFALL Birth: 11 FEB 1813, Poulton-le-Sands, Lancashire, England
Richard THRELFALL Birth: 3 MAR 1818, Lancashire
Their daughter is the Anne Threlfall that married John Lamb (1799-1847).
There are quite a few genealogists that are descended from Anne’s brother John, so you will find quite a few published trees on the web.
I’m not doing much research on the Threlfalls presently; I’m concentrating on my relatives that were living in the Padiham area in the late Victorian age.
The only brick wall that I have is that I can’t find any records relating to John Lambs burial place. I have his death certificate so I know he died on 18 May 1847 at Marsh, Cockerham. So I would be grateful if anyone has found anything relevant.
Colin, I hope I haven’t swamped you with lots of Lambs!
When you've got time feel free to ask if you have any queries.
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I've been busy for the past month and only just noticed this discussion on the Lamb family of Cockerham. I too have a lot of info on various Lambs since I descend from John Lamb and Hannah Wadsworth who married at Lancaster 4 May 1789. John died at Thurnham 1833 and Hannah at Thurnham in 1853. They have a large tomb in Cockerham churchyard with a very informative inscription (see page 10 of the Cockerham MI booklet which has already been mentioned - it's obtainable from the Lancaster Family History Group - I bought Glasson Dock, Ellel and Cockerham from them only about two months ago).
My reason for mentioning this set of Lambs is to alert Maggy H. that Agnes Lamb who married a John Lamb and moved to Bolton-le-Sands, is a daughter of John and Hannah - the probate papers at the Lancashire Archives in Preston for John Lamb (WRW A 1833) and Hannah Lamb (WRW A 1853) make this very clear and beyond any doubt whatsoever.
The baptism of an Agnes Lamb daughter of John Lamb, extra parochial, at Cockerham 21 Feb 1796 looks like her. Incidentally Agnes appears to have had an illegitimate son Richard (died 27 April 1825 age 10 - mentioned on the MI).
My descent from this family is from John & Hannah's other daughter Hannah who married John Parkinson at Lancaster in 1812 (she's also mentioned on the MI).
Happy to share Lambs with others who find this family name a trial!
Ian
PS I'm also related by marriage at least twice to the family of Cuthbert / Cuddy Lamb of Thurnham.....
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Ian
When I made notes to post here I used a different computer from my home computer and I must have loaded an old backup Gedcom file rather than my current file in order to list the various lamb trees that I have. Most of the trees have not needed amending or appending for a while and I didn’t notice that I was looking at an older version. I have now checked my current tree to check my entry for Agnes Lamb and I this has Agnes Lamb as John Lamb and Hannah Wadsworth’s daughter. This John Lamb being the son of John Lamb and Mary Charnock? I knew Agnes Lamb married a John Lamb that connected two of my trees together, the tree with the Cuddy Lambs from Thurnham and the tree with the Cockerham Lambs.
I’ve checked all my other information and that’s the same. However, William Brook Mortimer is the son of Margaret Lamb not her husband, I must have missed a line out while typing out my notes, and my eyesight is getting bad these days. Her husband being Joseph Mortimer.
This summer, I found some entries concerning Lambs in digitised copies of the Lancaster Gazette available from the British newspaper archive and I found a few entries in the births, marriages and deaths columns that might be of interest to you and some relating to the John Lamb born about 1801 and his wife. I also found an article relating to Cuddy Lamb’s wife Ann Dawson.
Sat 02 Mar 1833
On the 21st inst. at Thurnham Moss, Mr. John Lamb, yeoman, aged 82; a man throughout life greatly respected by all who knew him.
Sat 16 Apr 1853
Thurnham Moss. — On the 10th inst, Hannah, widow of the late Mr. John Lamb, aged 83 years.
Sat 07 Jan 1865
Bolton-le Sands.— On the Ist inst , Agnes, wife of Mr, John Lamb, farmer, aged 67 years.
Sat 11 Aug 1866
Bolton- le- Sands. — On the 2nd inst., Mr. John Lamb, aged 70 years.
Sat 15 Feb 1862
Lancaster. — On the 6th inst.. Mr. John Lamb, timber agent, Union Workhouse, aged 61 years.
Sat 04 Nov 1882
Glasson Dock— On the Ist inst., Mary, widow of the late Mr. John Lamb, timber agent, aged 73 years
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03 Jan 1857 Lancaster Gazette
JUDGES' LODGINGS, Saturday Magistrates present :— W. Ford, Esq., chairman ;B. P. Gregson, E. Dawson, W. B. Bolden, J. C. Satterthwaite, and J. Edmondson, Esquires. GROSS CASE OF ASSAULT. John Alston, of Carnforth, was charged by Ann Lamb, the wife of Cuthbert Lamb, of the same place, platelayer, with having assaulted her on the 31st of October last. Mr. J. Sharp appeared for the complainant and Mr. C T. Clark for the defendant. Ann Lamb, on examination, said she lived in a cottage near the line of railway at Carnforth, about half a mile from any other house. About eight weeks ago John Alston came to our house: he has a piece of land near, which he cultivates. The land is perhaps 100 yards from the house, and he has been in the habit of borrowing things from her. It was on a Friday that the defendant came. At the time I was wiping the eggs for the market, and he asked me if I wanted any one to help me with the eggs. I said I did not. He then came in and shut the door. (Witness here described the manner in which the defendant threw her down, and grasped her throat with both hands. The other details are unfit for publication. The capital offence was not committed.) Alston afterwards got his back against the door, and would not let me go out. I pulled down the parlour window, and called to a man who was working in a field, whose name, I think, was Robert Jackson, but I am not sure about his name. Alston could not see him coming, but I said that Jackson was coining towards the house. I told Alston that I would tell my husband when he came home. I felt the grip on my throat for three or four days afterwards. Cross-examined by Mr. Clark. — lt was about 10 o'clock in the morning, and I did not expect my husband home before 12 o'clock. Alston and I had never been alone together before this, and I never gave him cause or wished him to take liberties with me. I did not tell my father in law, because I did not know how he would take it. I was afraid. I laid this information in consequence of the scandalous tales which had got about concerning my character, and which were put out by Alston. Re-examined. — l took these proceedings that these scandalous tales might be cleared up. My little boy and girl were at school. My father in law lives about a mile from me. Alston appeared sober. Cuthbert Lamb, the husband of the last witness, deposed that his wife told him about what had happened as soon as he came in to dinner. Witness did not like to meddle with the defendant, because he was afraid that Alston would do him an injury. (Alston seems to be a desperate character.) Robert Gibson, the man who was called by the complainant to assist her, said he was at work for Alston at the time, and saw the defendant leave the house at the time in question. Heard Mrs. Lamb call out to him. She said, “Come and take this man of yours away." — This was the principal evidence, after which Mr. Clark addressed the magistrates for the defence, and the bench determined to commit the prisoner for a common assault, and inflicted the extreme penalty of £5, and in default Alston was committed to the House of Correction for two months.
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Hello Maggy
Many thanks for all this. There's something rather reassuring about discovering my 4xgreat grandfather was greatly respected by all who knew him. Having said that, I'm also related to the Alstons, but I deny all knowledge of this John.
I think that the Cuthbert Lamb mentioned in the newspaper article is Cuthbert son of John and Agnes (born 1822 Cockerham). He married Ann Parkinson at Bolton-le-Sands in 1848 and is at Bolton-le-Sands on the 1851 census. I haven't traced them beyond that, but it could be that they had moved two miles up the road to Carnforth by 1857.
Since I retired 18 months ago I've come back to family history. I did a lot of research in the 1980s and spent days in the Lancashire archives going through the Cockerham and Glasson registers, and working my way through piles of Lamb and Parkinson wills. I'm just about to go away for the weekend, but I'll let you have a list of what wills I've seen. Maybe you've already worked your way through them......
Ian
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Maggie
You have certainly swamped me with info, I have not been doing any research for the last month but am now getting back into it
I have John Lamb's burial on the 21st May 1847 in Cockerham which is 3 days after his death
The only place I could find information was on www.familysearch.org
Ann Lamb nee Threlfall also died in 1847
For others reading this thread both were my Great Great Great Grandparents
Col
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Hi Colin
Thanks for the burial information on John Lamb. I've looked many times through the St Michael Cockerham burial records but never found an entry.
Ann Threlfall is my maternal great great great grandmother. I'm not sure whether John Lamb is my great, great, great grandfather as my great, great grandfather was born as Henry Threlfall before Ann and John were married. He is listed as Henry Lamb in the 1841 census, although they fibbed about his age, making it look like he was born after their marriage.
I have scans of both John and Ann Lambs death certificates which I will have to crop to reduce the file size so I can post them here for you.
Best wishes
Maggy
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This is a photo of Dick Raby that was on the Fleetwood Maritime museum website a year or two ago. He was the son of Richard Raby and Jane Lamb born about 1895
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And this is a photo of his sister Janet from the same website, born about 1896
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This is a photocopy of the marriage entry in the parish records of John Lamb and Ann Threlfall taken from the microfiche for St Michaels Cockerham.
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Just come across this website - http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/cemetery.php?cemetery=1492
How I haven't seen it before is a mystery. Ancestors buried in Glasson and St. Michael's, Cockerham are all on here, and may prove useful.
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It has been a while since I have been doing any research on my family as we have been researching my Wife's family
Many thanks for the links, I found the gravestone one very poignant as looking through the ones for Cockerham there were no records for my direct line but were for side branches, the same for Glasson where I found Jane and Richard Raby's. I must visit as I have a soft spot for the Raby's as they were the witnesses at my Great Grandparents wedding
I'm busy putting my tree together on Ancestry and have got as far back as John (the 1800 one) its listed as "Lamb/Collins/Evans/Ainsworth Family Tree" as I put an entry in it suggests links, just where it gets some of then is anybody's guess, one even has John dying in the USA
I have been struggling with a problem I have found cousins in Oz that we were unsure of their existence and it turns out that they were adopted and so I am pondering how best to approach them
How is your research going?
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Hi Colin
Excuse the delay in replying but I’ve been away on holiday recently and got back early last week just in time to get distracted by Wimbledon.
I’ve spent the last few months photographing and transcribing a few cemeteries in my local area, so I’ve not done any new work on my own research.
I noticed that the Lancashire OPC have transcribed more records for St Michaels Cockerham in the last few months, including that of John Lamb’s burial. This agrees with the IGI record that you found and is three days after the death certificate that I have.
Burial: 21 May 1847 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancs.
John Lamb -
Age: 47
Abode: Cockerham
Buried by: J. Dodson, Vicar
Register: Burials 1843 - 1901, Page 19, Entry 152
Source: LDS Film 1278872
Also ancestry have now increased their databases to include a lot of scanned documents for the Lancaster area including St Marys Lancaster and Christchurch Ellel which is extremely informative for ancestors that were living in the Glasson/ Thurnham area.
So all I intend to do this summer and autumn is to cross check all my information gathered from the local history centre at Preston some years ago, with the new information available on the web.
Many years ago I found that some trees on the web mentioned a John Lamb (AKA John Limpus) that was born around 1760 in England and had a family in the USA. They linked that John Lamb with the John Lamb born about 1758 married to Elizabeth Towers, but I think they are mistaken and have got the wrong John Lamb.
I tried to post my scanned death certificates of John and Ann Lamb but the file size was too big, so I’ll try to reduce their size to get them posted
If I find out anything new or of interest when looking through the records, I’ll post them here.
Best wishes
Maggy
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Ann Lamb's death certificate
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John Lamb's death certificate
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Hi Maggie
Hope you are well, great result for Andy Murray, what a match
Thanks for the images, I've saved them to my records
I am reproducing the tree that I have already on my laptop using Ancestry and whilst I am at it I am verifying my results yet again before I list the family so I know that the Ancestry tree will be as accurate as possible.
Funny you should mention Ancestry having more information as I am finding the opposite and in many cases familysearch.org has the records where Ancestry is not listing them
The attached image will give you a laugh, a very jolly yet formidable lady, my Great Great Aunt, she was Laura Williams and with her sister Lucy they both married into the Ruck family who in turn married into the Evans and then Lamb so I presume that my Grandma Evans and Great Grandma Ruck would look similar, there is certainly a look of my Grandma Lamb (nee Evans) about her
Col
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Colin - forgive me if I have contacted you before about the Raby family - think it was actually the Lamb family you were researching. Anyway, I have 24 Rabys on my database, and pictures of both Janet and Richard Raby. As I am unsure how to condense these as attachments on here, perhaps you would let me know your email address so I can send you what I have. Janet and Richard Raby look very stalwart people and real characters. Just let me know if this is ok with you.
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Hi
Many thanks for the offer, I'd like to see images of them
I have found an image of their grave in Glasson and intend to visit them shortly, I do not know why but I think that they were a special couple
I've sent you a pm with my e-mail address
Col
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Many thanks for the images
We went to Glasson Dock last weekend and went to pay our respects at the grave of Jane and Richard
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Hi Colin,
So pleased the images were ok and that you were able to visit Glasson Church. If I'd known, you could have popped round for a brew and a chat - never mind. Hope all goes well with your research.
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As the saying goes....we were not alone, there were 8 of us.
We were on a filming session around the Village
Hope you are well?
I've filled in a lot of blanks on the family tree over the last few months and the tree on Ancestry is looking good and I have even found some cousins who we suspected existed and that they lived in Australia, I say suspected because my Uncle turned out to have been married twice and we only knew of the second Wife and that they did not have any children, his ex re-married and the children were adopted hence they have a different surname, no wonder we could not find them
Went into Lancashire archives last week and looked through the old maps of Cockerham, we seemed to live in Sandside Cottage off and on for about 150 years so that has helped in narrowing down who is who.
Col
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Ah - 8 of you in our little cottage would have been a bit of a squeeze, but we had had 9 for dinner once - the stairs were very useful as seats! It seems that quite a few people from here went to Australia or America. Re- Sandside cottage - I believe it still has a flood water level marked on the wall before the sea defences were improved there! It isn't you who wanted more info on the Clarkson family here is it? I don't think it is, but found some info recently and I've forgotten who it was. Should write these things down as I have quite a few people who I am helping out with their ancestors from here.
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Hi
I have no Clarkson's in the tree, that I know of
Col
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A friend of mine is the author of books on Glasson and Galgate. (Ruth Z Roskell ) She is a Lamb and has researched her line. Message me and I will put you in touch.
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I would be interested in corresponding since I have at least one Lamb family in my ancestry (look back through these posts to see the details).
frian
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Hi Accringtonian,
You can send this whole posting to your friend by clicking on "send this topic" then Ruth can read the other posts.
Great little chippy at Glasson Dock ;)
Sarah
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I would be interested in corresponding since I have at least one Lamb family in my ancestry (look back through these posts to see the details).
frian
Hi Frian, I think we have already been in touch about Lambs - either this site or another one, but thanks anyway.
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I am getting in touch with my friend Ruth in the hope that she will correspond with the rest of the herd. Bob
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Resurrecting my thread to see if there are any further Board members who have started researching the Lambs.
In another thread in the Australian section a member there helped with some research in Sydney with the resultant effect is that we found two Cousins who were adopted when they were very youg so 5* help from members of this forum.
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Hi Colin, I'm still making slow progress! I splashed out on a DNA test through Ancestry and got a few positive matches mainly from descendants of my 5th grandparents William Physick and Mary Morely. I have a positive match from a descendant of Elizabeth Lamb (1852-1918), daughter of Richard Lamb (1827-1897)and Jane Hardman (1831-1905). Richard Lamb is a son of John Lamb and Ann Threlfall, but Elizabeth Lamb married Robert Hoole (1853-1918), Robert Hoole is son of John Hoole and Betty Physick who is also related to William Physick and Mary Morely, so I'm none the wiser!
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Hi Maggie
Long time no speak.
I have Elizabeth in my tree but have not yet researched the detail.
There are so many Lamb's in and around Cockerham its difficult to know who is who but we will get there.
I have just searched LAN OPC for her and found the detail of her marriage to Robert so have added him to the tree.
Her younger sister Jane married Richard Raby and we went to find their graves in Glasson a while back, very moving experience.
We actually went on an Ancester hunt holiday last year to Monmouthsire and Herefordshire where my Paternal Grandmother and her relatives came from. We even found a small shop in Monmouth which is now a Florist that the Evans's lived and worked in as Shoemakers, the florist let us have a hunt around upstairs, not that sent shivers down my back nkowing that my Great Great Grandfather and Great Grandfather lived and worked there. I even found the house where my Grandmother and Father wold have been born. Very moving.
Its this arm of the family that I have been researching more. If you think the Lamb's are confusing by Ancesters are also the Evans, Jones and Williams now they do cause a headache especially as they are from South Wales.
Echo Ancestry DNA, we have also done that, confusing results and the people linked are pretty U/S as hardly any have trees and those that do have no similar names or they have ignored the messages
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Hello Colin Maggie , I just joined roots and have been researching my tree since Jan 17 , Maggie my 5th great grandparents are also William Physick & Mary Morley - Ann Threlfall Lamb is A great aunt but I have two Threlfall friends and was trying to link them into my tree ! Albeit gets very messy. Back to my Fishwick/ Scott/ Parkinson / Threlfall tree - thank you for the info here as I too had barked up the wrong tree with Lamb links. Anycase I am a newbie so need to print this off and relate it to my tree ! DNA kit on its way ..and would love some tips for getting past 1710 for the Physicks in Tathum !! ( nipping there was fruitless our relatives were too poor and soon got shipped off to Cockerham !! ) ..thank you again Maggie ( were obviously connected - this is so addictive !!! )
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Hi Janet66. Don't know if this is of any interest to you but here are the names of Threlfalls and also a Morley which I have taken from my database of Thurnham residents. Hope it is of some use. Just realised I had to save it in PDF form so here is the attachment - er - no it isn't as its too large. I'll try again!.
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I am getting in touch with my friend Ruth in the hope that she will correspond with the rest of the herd. Bob
We are a flock, not a herd, although I allegedly have Cowbans in my FT so I'm a member of a flock of Lambs and a herd of cows. ;D
One of my Lambs strayed to Accrington 200 years ago and married a local lass, then left again and seems to have meandered back to Cockerham.
I've been looking at Lambs in Poll Book for Lancaster Borough Election of 1784 on Lancashire Archives online catalogue today. Somehow Edward Lamb of London, house carpenter, son of George was eligible to vote in Lancaster. Were there postal votes in those days? Perhaps Edward's chosen candidate paid for a return stagecoach journey. James and George Lamb, also sons of George, and George himself, all house carpenters of Lancaster, voted.
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Bump
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Colin, as I posted on your other thread Bumping is discouraged on rootschat.
This thread is 8 pages long, it would be better if you tell us what information you are now after rather than just putting 'Bump'
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Hi everyone I have built an extensive tree on Ancestry it goes back to the Lambs of Cockerham in the 1500's if you would like to take a look it is a public tree. I will add a link below.
Regards Brian
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/173183030/?cfpid=282251031223