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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Clackmannanshire => Topic started by: isanor on Friday 08 June 12 14:51 BST (UK)
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My 4 x great grandparents were John Hunter and Helen Paterson. They were married in the Parish of Clackmannan in Sept 1796.
Entries in a Pedigree Resource file on Family Search give the parents of John as Henry Hunter and Mary Snodon and for Helen as Robert Paterson and Isabel Imbrie.
A search of Scotlandspeople would indicate that there are others of the same name who could also have been their parents. The place names seem to mtch up.
So can anyone confirm that the parents listed in the IGI source are definitely their parents.
My thanks to anyone who has any information which may be of help.
Isabel
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On a search of Scotlandspeople for the marriage of John Hunter to Helen, there were 2 in the county of Clackmannan during the month of September,1796. Your other website may have listed the parents of both these marriages.
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Thanks for this information. I had already noted this. It looks as if I will never know just who the parents were as it seems two couple with the same name existed and were married in the same month - most likely related. Sorry for the delay in replying but I have been on holdiay.
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More than likely, the two entries you are seeing will be for readings of the banns and maybe the marriage. Less likely that it was two couples with the same name.
These entries will be from the Old Parish Registers so unlikely to include any details on the bride and grooms parents. Hard to say what info is included though on OPR entries until you check the image.
Monica :)
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do you know if helen had a relative called elizabeth.?would have been elizabeth gillespie nee patterson born in strathblane in about 1826/8.?
p.s. know somehow that the hunter, patterson, and snadan/sneddon families are related somewhere to my family but my family tree dosen't have those family lines on my tree as only did my direct line. would be happy to help if i can.?
T.
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Hi Undertaker - Have seen various posts along the way ;D and it's ringing bells somehow ?? Have Patersons.. Hunters..Sneddons..etc etc all from the Clackmannan area, will send you a pm with e.mail adds so we can do some checking.
Regards Patvp
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Thanks to all who have made comments so far.
1. Marriage of Helen Paterson and John Hunter. There are two sets of Banns, one in Alloa for Helen, the other in Clackmannan for John, 25 Sep 1796. Date of marriage was 14 Oct 1796.
2. Helen may have had a relative named Elizabeth whose married name was Gillespie but so far I haven't come across this.
3. I am still fairly sure the Snadon/Sneddon family link up with Helen and John as the names keep cropping up in my researches. So any information would be appreciated.
4. Re births of Helen and John.
There are two possible OPR records for Helen. One is for 17Jun 1772, to John Paterson and Margaret Jamieson, Baptised 18 Jun in Cowperhill (Parish of Alloa). She was one of twins, a brother named william.
The second date is 28 Jun 1774, to Robert Paterson and Isoble Imbrie, baptised 1 July in Collieland (Parish of Alloa). The second birth in 1774 sems to be the one favoured by others whose trees are on ancestry.co.uk and also i9n the Pedigree Resource file on Family Search.
Birth of John Hunter. A search on SP throws up 15 possible births between 1768 and 1780, 6 of them in Clackmannan Parish and 5 in Alloa Parish. The one favoured by others seeems to be 14 Nov 1773 to Henry Hunter and Mary Snadon, in Alloa Parish. I am finding it dificult to corroborate this.
I'd appreciate any further information anyone can tell me.
Many thanks
Isabel
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i am related to elizabeth gillespie nee patterson she was born i believe on 04 june 1826 in strathblane but have come across details showing 1828 and she was married in 1848 to robert gillespie who was born on 4th june 1821 in alloa.father of elizabeth is james patterson born about 1771 in old monkland lanark and was married in 1823 if this helps.
don't have much more information but know when and where she died if this helps.
T.
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Hi Undertaker
Can you tell me wheren and where your Elizabeth Gillespie died. I may have come up with an answer for you but I ned to know when she died to confirm this.
Thanks
Isabel
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Elizabeth Patterson died on 27/07/1874 at Row in Dunipace.
Robert Gillespie died on 03/07/1875 at Row in Dunipace.
Hope this helps.
T.
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Hello
Many thanks for this date. I've sent you a private message asking for your email address. I think I may have some answers for you.
Isabel
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Found some more info about elizabeth paterson born 4 june 1826 strathblane stirlingshire scotland who married robert gillespie born 4 june 1821 in alloa clackmannanshire scotland marriage was 11 june 1848 but elizabeth's parents on my tree shown as james paterson born about 1771 in old monkland in lanarkshire and married catherine ferguson in 1823. catherine was born about 1775 in old monkland lanark scotland. don't know where they married but shown on opr as elizabeth pateron's mother as elizabeth mcgowan and robert gillespie elizabeth's husband robert gillespie married on my birthday 11th june 1848(1972-not 1848 for me). so confused. anyway missed the pm.however send it me again as missed it for one reason or another as have been off rootschat for some time, and if you can explain would be grateful. trying to find a link between me and another robert gillespie born 1796. in terms of the sneddon link i think i know the link. robert gillespie 1821 had a sister agnes gillespie born 22nd april 1823 and she married a james sneddon born 1814. agnes 1823 died in 1866 in stirling. think there was a william as a brother to both agnes and robert but don't know when he was born. think he may be born in 1829.Any info.?
T.
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Hello Undertaker
Thanks for getting in touch again. Can you give me a few days to recall where I got to on this subject then I'll get back to you.
Many thanks
Isabel
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sure no problem. p.s on the snadan's/sneddon's my robert gillespie's possible sister was agnes gillespie born in 1823 dies in 1866 she married a james sneddon who i believe was born about 1814.
Any help with the link up with the snadan's/sneddon's.?
T.
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isanor, my family tree is now on mundia if you want to compare trees.
T. :)
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Hi Undertaker
Nice to hear from you. I would like to have a look at your tree but I can't work out how to access it on Mundia. I hadn't heard of Mundia before so this is new to me. Perhaps you can give me some hlep on this.
Thanks
Isabel
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it's available on this website address, http://www.mundia.com/us/. as it's in beta testing it does have some issues but if you just register it should let you in on the site and if not ,once registered, you can request a password reset which will let you in.if any problems let me know.
T.