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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Sutherland => Topic started by: sallyvcarter on Thursday 14 June 12 01:43 BST (UK)
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I am looking for info on Alexander MacRae married to Lucy Ross.
He was deceased Pre 1863( son's Marriage) His death didn't show on Scotlands people so probably pre 1855.
Son was Based in Kinlochbervie, Sutherland as a shoemaker so I imagine family are from here?
Later generations are Scottish free Church.
Thanks for your time
Sally
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There's only one family with an Alexander McRae (not MacRae) as father in Eddrachilles 1841. His wife isn't Lucy though the name is down as Fairley McRae.
Marriage Familysearch
Alexander Mcrae marriage: 26 Feb 1822 Assynt,Sutherland,Scotland
spouse: Fairly Sinclair
SCT1841/49 Place: Eddrachilles -Sutherland Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Eddrachillis Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
MCRAE Alexr M 45 Tenant
MCRAE Fairley F 45
MCRAE William M 15
MCRAE Barbara F 10
MCRAE Duncan M 10
MCRAE Merian F 9
MCRAE Bell F 5
MCRAE Alexr M 4
All born Sutherland There may be older children as there's 4 years between marriage and Wm.
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Yes there is an earlier Wm born in 1823 and the second Wm born 1825.
That may suggest Alexander's father's name to be William.
Barbra born in 1827 (perhaps Barbara could be Fairly/Fairley's mother's name)
Duncan born 1829
All baptised ASSYNT
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It is the Fairly I want the other name is another side ..OOps.
I have Fairly on 51/61 census Later but I couldn't read the place name without local knowledge.
I have been To the Kinlochbervie area where they ended up, but am not sure where Assynt is ..I'll have to get the atlas out
I Saw William, Alexander and Marion/Merian on Later census but the others are new
I am pretty sure Barbara and Duncan are Fairly's parents.
Thanks so much Fifer
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Hi Sally,
Generally speaking, Assynt is the parish south of Eddrachillis. I suggest you look for "Lochinver" or "Loch Assynt" on a map, or you Google for it.
Ian
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Hi
Just adding to Ian's reply. Here is a parish map of the counties of Caithness, Sutherland and Ross-shire showing the extent of Assynt:
http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-caithness.htm
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It is the Fairly I want the other name is another side ..OOps.
I have Fairly on 51/61 census Later but I couldn't read the place name without local knowledge.
I have been To the Kinlochbervie area where they ended up, but am not sure where Assynt is ..I'll have to get the atlas out
I Saw William, Alexander and Marion/Merian on Later census but the others are new
I am pretty sure Barbara and Duncan are Fairly's parents.
Thanks so much Fifer
My pleasure. ;D
Yes I thought Barbara and Duncan were likely Fairley Sinclair's parents names but though I searched I couldn't find them, my next thought was they were probably Free Church?
ETA Remember to allow 5 years higher ages for the 1841 census ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0.
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I thought Barbara and Duncan were likely Fairley Sinclair's parents names but though I searched I couldn't find them, my next thought was they were probably Free Church?
The Free Church wasn't established until 1843 so the lack of any info on them is most likely to be because the Assynt records only start in 1798 - see GROS for details. I've had the same problem with Lochbroom records (immediately to the south)
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They were free church I think as I know of 2 grandsons free church ministers. I'm new to Scottish history but I'd like to trace if this is their original area or if they moved there in clearances from elsewhere in Sutherland.
What is GROS?
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Hi Sally
GROS is the General Register Office for Scotland.
The listings for Sutherland are towards the end of this doc:
http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/list-of-oprs-1to56.pdf
Added - It gives 1798 as start date but then says 'For indexes to Sutherland County Baptisms see 56A/1-3' but I've not found that section so far!
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This is worth a read, if you are new to Scottish records -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
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It is worth reading the background (political as usual ;D) into how the split came about, there are more authorative texts but most are a bit cumbersome and tedious.
However basically from the act of Union 1707 the Hanoverian (anti catholic) union was imposed on Scotland, but there were evangelical preachers in many areas of Scotland, often in the open air, certainly from circa 1712 onwards, because many people objected to the state impinging on their religion.
So although the official Free Church of Scotland wasn't established or formalised until 1834 during the disruption, there was a strong anti state movement in existence for well over 100 years the disruption was not the start of it. It was very much an anti-establishment/government movement. So while many observed the ban on Catholicism they did not like the state dictating who their preachers and ministers were to be and the control the state had over the official church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruption_of_1843
I'm afraid John Knox (1514? - 1572) (and The Reformation) has a lot to answer for in Scotland's history, not just for the churches and sectarianism, but in male attitudes towards women which existed in some places through to very recently. Hence many parishes do not record female births, or the names of mothers, our only hope is that a marriage record states not just a surname for the wife but also a first name. In Knox's eyes women were little better than possessions, like a man's cattle or other beasts, a means for a man to produce sons and heirs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Knox
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Some easy reading links to religion in Scotland
http://www.ufcos.org.uk/hista.htm
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1/1_church_of_scotland.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/churchofscotland_1.shtml
http://www.freechurch.org/resources/history/history.htm
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SCT1841/49 Place: Eddrachilles -Sutherland Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Eddrachillis Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
MCRAE Alexr M 45 Tenant
MCRAE Fairley F 45
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ETA Remember to allow 5 years higher ages for the 1841 census ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0.
It follows that Alexr. and Fairley could have been 45; 46; 47; 48; or 49 when the census was taken.
Ian
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On the 26 Feb 1822 Alex Mcrae from Unapool, Assynt married Fairly Sinclair of Glencoul, Eddrachilles. They were married at Achmore by the Revd Dr Mackenzie.