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Title: BRADBURN
Post by: S BRADBURN on Wednesday 27 June 12 18:58 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm knew to this site, so bear with me! Wondered if there is any other people on here looking into The Bradburn Family Name???

I live in Telford and are trying to trace people that know of Bradburn Family from Lilleshall Priors Lee
St Georges Shifnal Shropshire.

Thankyou

Sharon Bradburn
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 27 June 12 23:04 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Wednesday 04 July 12 09:07 BST (UK)
Hi Sharon

I have lots of Bradburns in my family tree, in the area you mention. Would love to share information.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: S BRADBURN on Tuesday 11 September 12 22:44 BST (UK)
Hello Message to brianthecow

Only just seen your message and are you local to the Telford area?

Regards

Sharon
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Wednesday 12 September 12 09:18 BST (UK)
Hi Sharon

I'm not local now, but I come from Shifnal, and my mum is from Priorslee. I am fairly sure we have ancestors in common.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 12 September 12 11:28 BST (UK)
I had Bradburn rellies, ironworkers, who came to Glasgow from England, 1890?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Wednesday 12 September 12 13:52 BST (UK)
Hi Skoosh

There were lots of pits, furnaces, ironworks etc. in this area of Shropshire in the 19th century so it seems quite plausible that some people might have migrated to other parts of the UK when the industry began to decline. I don't know if any of my family did so, but if you have some names I might be able to check whether they tally with my family.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 12 September 12 15:33 BST (UK)
In Glasgow in 1871, earlier than I thought, Brian. This is them in 1881,
15 River street, Dennistoun, Glasgow.
Thomas Bradburn 47, blacksmith, b. England.
Matilda Bradburn 39,                          "
William G Bradburn 12,                 b. Glasgow.
Mary K 10,                                          "
Thomas  5                                           "
Matilda   3                                           "

Pretty sure this is the right Bradburn's, an uncommon name here.  By 1891 they are in 40 James Orr Street, Townhead, Glasgow. One of them married my gt aunt who was at No' 34, b. Dudley, father a Forbes, a glassblower, her mother an Edmunds, Staffs.
Maybe they got together of an evening to discuss the cricket scores?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Thursday 13 September 12 09:30 BST (UK)
These aren't my direct ancestors, and I haven't been able to find these names, but there were a LOT of Bradburns in this area of Shropshire at that time. A few years ago I tried to construct a complete family tree of them but gave up because there were so many. My gg grandfather, Joseph Bradburn, b. 1840, was a blacksmith, as was his father, Isaac, b. 1795 (as late as the 1871 census his occupation was still given as blacksmith) so it was in the family.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 13 September 12 10:04 BST (UK)
Bran, it was a Joseph Bradburn from that family who married to my gt aunt Phoebe. The names are there!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Thursday 13 September 12 17:59 BST (UK)
Unfortunately my Joseph Bradburn did not marry your great aunt Phoebe, and he remained in Shropshire his whole life. But as I say, it's quite possible that members of that extended family moved to Glasgow and elsewhere.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Thursday 14 December 17 13:25 GMT (UK)
In Glasgow in 1871, earlier than I thought, Brian. This is them in 1881,
15 River street, Dennistoun, Glasgow.
Thomas Bradburn 47, blacksmith, b. England.
Matilda Bradburn 39,                          "
William G Bradburn 12,                 b. Glasgow.
Mary K 10,                                          "
Thomas  5                                           "
Matilda   3                                           "

Pretty sure this is the right Bradburn's, an uncommon name here.  By 1891 they are in 40 James Orr Street, Townhead, Glasgow. One of them married my gt aunt who was at No' 34, b. Dudley, father a Forbes, a glassblower, her mother an Edmunds, Staffs.
Maybe they got together of an evening to discuss the cricket scores?

Skoosh.

Thomas Bradburn was my 3 x great grandfather. I have found his death record from April 1910 which states his father's name and it looks like Isaac (it's quite hard to read). I don't suppose you have any further information on Thomas or his father?
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 14 December 17 14:31 GMT (UK)
Stuart,    welcome to Rootschat!   this is them in  the 1871 Census,  102 Millburn Street, Townhead, Glasgow,

Thomas Bradburn 28 blacksmith b.England,
Matilda   30   wife     b.England,
Isaac     21
William   1

1891 Census, 40 James Orr Street, Townhead, Glasgow,

Thomas Bradburn 60  widower b.England,
William   grocer      b. Glasgow,
Thomas   apprentice flesher   b. Glasgow,
Matilda    scholar                   b. Glasgow

Skoosh.

Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Thursday 14 December 17 14:39 GMT (UK)
Stuart,    welcome to Rootschat!   this is them in  the 1871 Census,  102 Millburn Street, Townhead, Glasgow,

Thomas Bradburn 28 blacksmith b.England,
Matilda   30   wife     b.England,
Isaac     21
William   1

1891 Census, 40 James Orr Street, Townhead, Glasgow,

Thomas Bradburn 60  widower b.England,
William   grocer      b. Glasgow,
Thomas   apprentice flesher   b. Glasgow,
Matilda    scholar                   b. Glasgow

Skoosh.

Thanks! I don't suppose you know whereabouts in England Thomas Bradburn was born? Looking through the thread it seems it could be Shropshire. I have found birth records for Thomas Bradburns in Chester and Manchester from around that period, but nothing else.

BTW, my mother's middle name was Matilda which was obviously carried on from Matilda Bradburn, and my grandmother's middle name was Bradburn.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 14 December 17 15:31 GMT (UK)
Stuart,  I remember Joe Bradburn, the family lived in Alexandra Parade I think, dunno who these folks are?

1881 Census, St George's, Milton, Glasgow. (Blytheswood area, not The Milton)

Martha Bradburn 30 b.England,
John 10,
Thomas 5,
Mary 6,
Elizabeth 2.
plus 3 lodgers, MacQueen, Gracey & Ranel
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Thursday 14 December 17 16:25 GMT (UK)
Stuart,  I remember Joe Bradburn, the family lived in Alexandra Parade I think, dunno who these folks are?

1881 Census, St George's, Milton, Glasgow. (Blytheswood area, not The Milton)

Martha Bradburn 30 b.England,
John 10,
Thomas 5,
Mary 6,
Elizabeth 2.
plus 3 lodgers, MacQueen, Gracey & Ranel
Thanks
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 16:45 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this has been put up but could this be Thomas:

Bpt., Dawley Magna, Shropshire

11 Sept 1825 Thomas Bradburn, son of Isaac and Catherine. Abode - Horsehay

Isaac is listed as a Blacksmith


Gadget

added - ref this Thomas:

In Glasgow in 1871, earlier than I thought, Brian. This is them in 1881,
15 River street, Dennistoun, Glasgow.
Thomas Bradburn 47, blacksmith, b. England.
Matilda Bradburn 39,                          "
William G Bradburn 12,                 b. Glasgow.
Mary K 10,                                          "
Thomas  5                                           "
Matilda   3                                           "
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 16:58 GMT (UK)
Isaac and Catherine also had the following children baptised at Dawley

1815  Barbara
1817 Robert
1819 Isaac
1821 William
1823 Charles
1830 John
1832 Richard
1836 George


There might be more!

Gadget
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 17:49 GMT (UK)
Hello

I'm knew to this site, so bear with me! Wondered if there is any other people on here looking into The Bradburn Family Name???

I live in Telford and are trying to trace people that know of Bradburn Family from Lilleshall Priors Lee
St Georges Shifnal Shropshire.

Thankyou

Sharon Bradburn


http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Bradburn&cb_submit=Search&cb_page=2

Draft deed of covenant for the production of title deeds X972/2/3/3/4/3 15 Mar 1828

Parties: 1 George Granville Leveson Gower as Baron Gower of Stittenham; and 2 William Bradburn of Priors Lee, gentleman

Copy draft deed of exchange of premises at Pains Lane X972/2/3/3/4/2 15 Mar 1828

Parties: George Granville Leveson Gower as Baron Gower of Stittenham; and William Bradburn of Priors Lee, gentleman



http://www.familydeeds.org/SP3.php

A vellum Indenture being a Lease for a year of land containing near two acres called The Croft situate in the parish of Donington in the county of Salop now Shropshire dated 24 April 1840, The Assignees of Thomas Bishton, a Bankrupt to Mr Joseph Yates.


William Bradburn     

Gentleman of Priorslee in the parish of Shifnal in the county of Salop now                               Shropshire. Also party to an Indenture intended to be made the next day. Party to this Indenture.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 17:55 GMT (UK)
Are these the same family as the   Leveson Gowers of Sutherland - of Highland Clearance fame?

Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Leveson-Gower,_1st_Earl_Granville
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 18:09 GMT (UK)
http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Bradbourne&cb_submit=Search

Marriage licence - Isaac Bradbourne (bachelor of Beckbury) and Lousia Matilda Hayward (spinster of Beckbury) XP25/A/6/14 28 Feb 1851

Shropshire Archives



Bradburn or Bradbourne
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 18:17 GMT (UK)
Are these the same family as the   Leveson Gowers of Sutherland - of Highland Clearance fame?

Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Leveson-Gower,_1st_Earl_Granville


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilleshall

The Leveson-Gower Dukes of Sutherland became one of the richest families in the United Kingdom partly as a result of this industrial development and in the late nineteenth century built a new residence, Lilleshall Hall which lies at the heart of the estate a mile from the village. The Sutherland estate was sold off between 1915 and 1917 and the hall eventually passed into state ownership as a sporting facility. It is now the Lilleshall Hall National Sports Centre,[2] once the site of the Football Association youth academy, and now the home of British gymnastics and archery. Lilleshall Hall Golf Club is also in the grounds of Lilleshall Hall.

Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 18:23 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=270950.msg1550539#msg1550539


Horton/Bradburn in Donnington
on: Thursday 29 November 07 14:16 GMT (UK)
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 18:36 GMT (UK)
https://www.myheritage.com/names/joseph_bradburn


Joseph Bradburn, 1840 - 1913
Joseph Bradburn was born on month day 1840, at birth place, to Isaac Bradburne and Maria Bradburne (born Taylor).
Isaac was born on October 25 1795, in Lilleshall, Shropshire, England.
Maria was born on January 17 1797, in Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England.
Joseph had 10 siblings: Letitia Bradburne, Mary Maria Bradburne and 8 other siblings.
Joseph married Emma Bradburn (born Horton) in 1862, at age 21 at marriage place.
Emma was born in 1839, in WOLVERHAMPTON West Midlands England.
They had 12 children: Issac Bradburn, William Bradburne and 10 other children.
Joseph passed away on month day 1913, at age 73 at death place.


and others  :)
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 19:07 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if Sharon, the OP, will see any of the latest info as she hasn't been on since Sept 2012. 

This thread was revived by Stuart earlier today. Skoosh and Stuart are interested in a different line, I think, but I'm sure Skoosh will find the link to the Leverson Gowers very interesting  :) 

Gadget

PS.  I think those of us who have connections with the Highlands know about the Leverson Gowers and their destruction of the Highland way of life
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 20:06 GMT (UK)
Not a member of ancestry.com. I did a quick search on the message board.
Joseph Herbert Bradburn was born 1905, his parents were?


https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.hayward/615/mb.ashx


Wood

SharonBradburnShropshire (View posts)
Posted: 12 Nov 2007 01:27PM   
Classification: Birth
Surnames: Wood, Bradburn

My nan was Violet Wood 1906 from St georges-Trench Lillershall Shropshire area. I would like to try and find some information on who her parents were?

Violet married my grandad Joseph Herbert Bradburn 1905. Her brothers and sisters were William c1900, Nellie 1912, Emily 1909, Edward and Alice.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
Looks like it's a different family to those discussed by Skoosh and Stuart. 

I see that the message was 2007 - so earlier than this one  :-\
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 14 December 17 21:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that input guys, no doubt there's a connection somewhere? Gadget there's also a Leveson-Gower, aka the Earl of Granville, who owns much of North Uist & claims to be a crofter. A bit ironic! There's also a connection to Jenners department store in Edinburgh.

The young Queen Victoria visited the Sutherlands at their London house (Stafford House?) and exclaimed that she came from her house to their palace!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 14 December 17 21:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that input guys, no doubt there's a connection somewhere? Gadget there's also a Leveson-Gower, aka the Earl of Granville, who owns much of North Uist & claims to be a crofter. A bit ironic!


I remember reading about that, now you mention it!
Did you see my earlier posts about Thomas Bradburn, son of Isaac, the blacksmith from Dawley (Betjemin - A  Shropshire Lad) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jnT4tOl_qQ
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 14 December 17 22:24 GMT (UK)
Joseph Herbert Bradburn born 1905       1911 Census   PriorsLee   Shropshire

Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Friday 15 December 17 08:56 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this has been put up but could this be Thomas:

Bpt., Dawley Magna, Shropshire

11 Sept 1825 Thomas Bradburn, son of Isaac and Catherine. Abode - Horsehay

Isaac is listed as a Blacksmith


Gadget


Hi Gadget, what is your source for that information?
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 09:22 GMT (UK)
Shropshire baptisms  :)

They're available online via freebooks, FamilySearch, FindMyPast, and others.  I also have the old microfiche that I bought from SFHS years ago and scanned them.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Friday 15 December 17 09:25 GMT (UK)
Shropshire baptisms  :)

Cheers. Do you have a link to it?
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 09:35 GMT (UK)
Here's one link:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7J3-WJD

I'm tying to find the link to the freebooks, Also try FindMyPast.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 09:41 GMT (UK)
Here is the Open Library link:

https://archive.org/stream/shropshireparis01socigoog#page/n135/mode/2up/search/dawley

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiSalop.html

Most of the Shropshire parishes are available.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Friday 15 December 17 09:54 GMT (UK)
Here is the Open Library link:

https://archive.org/stream/shropshireparis01socigoog#page/n135/mode/2up/search/dawley

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiSalop.html

Most of the Shropshire parishes are available.

Thanks
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 13:47 GMT (UK)
Hi again Stuart  :)

I've been doing a bit more investigating and have gathered this info - some of which you might have or has been given on this thread. It does seem to prove that the Glasgow Thomas was the Dawley Thomas:

I'm wondering if the 1825 Thomas died and they had another Thomas b.c 1831.  However, his age varies throughout and his death cert gives an age that fits a 1825 birth.

1841
Dawley Magna
Isaac, 50, Blacksmith
Catharine, 45
Isaac, 20, carpenter
William, 15
Charles, 12
Thomas, 10
John, 8
Richard, 6
George 5
all born Shropshire

Marriage
20 Oct 1846 Dawley Parva
Thomas Bradburn (blacksmith) and Christian Burgwyn. Both of full age.
Father - Isaac, smith
One of the witneses was William Bradburn

1861
Frame Lane, Dawley
Thomas Bradburn, widower, 33, blacksmith, b. Dawley
Fanny, daughter, 16
Isaac, son, 13
John H, 11
All b. Dawley

Thomas marries Matilda Gillespie 1868, Barrhead (from child's birth cert)

1891
James Or Street, Dennistoun
Thomas, widower, 60, Blacksmith, b.England
William, s, 21, grocer
Thomas, s, 14, fleshers app
Matilda, d, 12, scholar
Children b. Lanarkshire

Death 17 April 1910, Barrhead
Thomas Bradburn, Blacksmith( Journeyman). Aged 85.
Widower of 1. Christian Burguin 2. Matilda Gillespie
Parents - Isaac Bradburn, Blacksmith and ? Bradburn MS ? Both deceased.
Cause - Senile decay
Informant - John Bradburn, son


Gadget
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 13:57 GMT (UK)
Here he is on 1901

69 Reid Street, Dennistoun
Thomas Bradburn, 25, butcher' shopman, b. Coatbridge
Williamina, wife, 27, b. Macduff
Margaret, d, under 1, b. Glasgow
Thomas Bradburn, father, widower, 78, Blacksmith, b. England


Gadget
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 December 17 14:21 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you subscribe to Ancestry but there are a number of trees there suggesting that Isaac Bradburn married Catherine/Christiana Jarratt in 1811 but no source given.

Have found the following marriage in the Shropshire marriage index

6 July 1811 Broseley Isaac Bradbon  and Christiana Jarrett


Gadget
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 16 December 17 12:13 GMT (UK)
Nice work Gadget,  :-*  Dawley appears to be what's now Telford, an industrial area, so Thomas the blacksmith was maybe not working as a farrier. Where he lived in the Townhead, Glasgow was within easy walking distance of the various Springburn locomotive works, all of which had blacksmiths shops. Folk in Glasgow tended to live near their work so the Blochairn steel-works & Arrol's who built the Forth Bridge are other possibilities?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Millmoor on Saturday 16 December 17 12:39 GMT (UK)
The New Town in the East Shropshire Coalfield was originally called Dawley. The name was changed in 1968 to Telford when the New Town was expanded to include places like Wellington north of the A5.

The East Shropshire Coalfield was the "birthplace of the Industrial Revolution" and includes  Coalbrookdale and Ironbridge. As other industrial areas grew East Shropshire went into decline and so not surprisingly there was considerable population movement from the area in  search of work in other coal mining and metal working areas.

William


Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 16 December 17 12:58 GMT (UK)
I know the area fairly well as I grew up not all that far away in the Welsh borders.

Many of my father's lines came from that area - moving between there, the Staffordshire coalfields and the Denbighshire coalfields - some were pit sinkers. Dad often talked about these ancestors. Later, some of the family moved to the Lancashire, Yorkshire and Durham coalfields.
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: Stuartao on Monday 18 December 17 20:10 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you subscribe to Ancestry but there are a number of trees there suggesting that Isaac Bradburn married Catherine/Christiana Jarratt in 1811 but no source given.

Have found the following marriage in the Shropshire marriage index

6 July 1811 Broseley Isaac Bradbon  and Christiana Jarrett


Gadget
Thanks for the information
Title: Re: BRADBURN
Post by: brianthecow on Monday 01 January 18 11:22 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year Bradburn hunters!
Here's a very rough partial family tree that I constructed about 10 years ago when I was trying to get to grips with the sheer numbers of Bradburns in this part of Shropshire. I gave up eventually when my brain couldn't take any more. I knew I had it tucked away somewhere and managed to find it this morning. I'm descended from Joseph Bradburn and Emma Horton and their daughter Emma.