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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: BatUser on Friday 29 June 12 14:58 BST (UK)
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Could I please have an approximate date for when the photo was taken please.
Thank you
Terri
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This could be 1860's or 70's.I suspect 60's as this ensemble is a bit old fashioned for a young man in the 70's.
jim
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Thank you very much Jim
It is great to have an idea of date.
Regards
Terri
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In the 1870s W.H Vosper was in association with W H Schroeder in Sydney, and between 1890 and 97 he was working at 694 Collins street Sydney -
Schroeder was active between 1863 and 1891.
Don't know if that helps or not!
Wiggy :)
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Thank you Wiggy
I did not realise we had a Collins Street in Sydney. I thought it was only Melbourne.
On the back of the photo it has from Sydney so could have been taken anywhere. The other photos in the album are all from Sydney and country NSW so maybe W. H Vosper was a travelling photographer for a time.
I did not have information on the photographer and I am very happy to have your information on the movements of W. H Vosper.
Regards
Terri
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The "from Sydney" on the back stands out as being a little bit odd.
Suggesting that this photographer was actually working somewhere else, where he expected people to be impressed by that.
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Thank you Kennett
I thought W H Vosper may have been a travelling photographer at the time as there was no address just From Sydney.
I have about 100 photos taken in NSW and a lot of them were taken in Sydney around 1860 to 1880 and one photo I have by Andrew Chandler has “late of George St Sydney” . Another photo is by “Sydney Photographic Company” then hand written “& Murrurundi for a very few days only”. So it must have been a selling point when in the country areas to be a photographer from Sydney where there were a lot of photographers at the time and all the latest fashions and photographic equipment.
It makes it hard to know where the photos were taken to try and place relatives.
Regards
Terri
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Well you are right, a lot of photographers travelled around. But usually they would have an actual address at Sydney, because they would expect quite a bit of repeat business for reprints. Just saying "from Sydney" seems unusual.
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Thank you Kennett
Wiggy was kind enough to advise that W H Vosper was in association with W H Schroeder in Sydney and W H Vosper may have advised his customers of this. It is just a guess on my part but he could also have talked people into getting extra copies at the time instead of having to communicate with Sydney in the future.
All very interesting.
Regards
Terri
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Agree Kennett - 'from Sydney' without an address is very odd!
Wiggy
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Hi there,
1885 Sands Alpha Directory
William H VOSPER, photographer, 694 George St
William H, VOSPER photographer, 99 Derwent St, Forest Lodge
1891 Sands Trade Directory PHOTOGRAPHERS
William H VOSPER, 694 George St SYDNEY.
1892 Sands Suburban Directory for GLEBE including Forest Lodge
DERWENT ST East Side (from 61 Broadway to St John’s Road)
At 99 Derwent St William H OSGOOD, plumber
I looked through St John’s Rd (see 1895 listing below) and could not find Mr Vosper. There was one listing for a photographer on St John’s Rd : at 53 St John’s Road, John C WIEPEL, photographer.
1895 Sands Alpha Directory
W H VOSPER, St John’s Rd, Forest Lodge
I cannot find Mr Vosper in any directories earlier than 1885, sorry, but he was definitely in Sydney by 1878
NSW ER 1878 WEST SYDNEY
William H VOSPER, residence, 649 George St (perhaps a co-incidence 649 and 694, I have checked and re-checked, not my typos !)
Cheers, JM
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NSW ER 1903 DALLEY, polling at Toxteth (ie Glebe/Forest Lodge)
William Henry VOSPER, 57 St John’s Road, photographer
Cordelia VOSPER, same address, artist
Hannah VOSPER, same address, domestic duties
Cheers, JM
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William Henry VOSPER, his wife Hannah VIVIAN and dau Florence arrived in South Australia on 28 Jun 1859. His occupation was noted as miner from Liskeard, Cornwall. Four children were born at Kooringa, Wallaroo Mines and Talisker between 1860 and 1870. These are all mining areas. Just a bit of trivia. The Talisker Silver Mine was adjacent to a grazing property I owned until 2004. Lovely spot on the South Coast of SA overlooking Kangaroo Island.
In 1872 he and his family departed Adelaide for London and in 1876 he advertised his business at Grafton NSW stating he had just completed a four year overseas tour. By 1880 he was living in Sydney. Hannah died in 1904 and William in 1918.
JM has kindly listed the Sands entries. A couple more entries. In 1883 he was listed as photographer 694 George Street, Sydney. In 1893 he was living at 43 St John's Road, Forest Lodge.
Cheers
Cando
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So if he didn't go to Sydney until 1880 - how does that tie in with Jim's dating of 1860-70s.
He was wearing old clothes 'cos he couldn't afford others - or Australia was behind in men's fashions stakes or??
Or what?
Good-looking gent anyhow!! ;)
Wiggy
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Yes, a good looking guy ;D
NSW ER 1878 WEST SYDNEY
William H SCHRODER, of King St, with a leasehold at 649 George St
Sands 1885
Schroder & Co, photographers, 671 George Street
Sands 1890
W H Schroeder & Co, phtographers, 671 George St
And
William H Schroeder,photographer, 9 Wigram St, Glebe
Cannot find Schroeder/Schroder photographer in 1895 Sands, sorry.
Perhaps the City of Sydney Assessment Books may help? They are linked at the NSW resources board here at RChat
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369703.0.html
Cheers, JM
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Thank you JM
It was very nice of you to go to the trouble to find so much information about W H Vosper and I appreciate it. I can add it to the information I am collecting on the photographers of old photos I have.
You also found information on J C Wiepel. I have 2 photos by him taken in Narrabri NSW in the 1860s and 12 taken by him at West Maitland NSW in the 1870s
Thank you Cando
Thank you also for taking the time to find information about the life of William Henry Vosper. I will also add this to the information on the photographer. He has gone from a name to a man with a family and history. How amazing you had such a close connection to the Talisker Silver Mine area. (I will have to goole the area and have a look)
Wiggy has that “In the 1870s W.H Vosper was in association with W H Schroeder in Sydney, and between 1890 and 97 he was working at 694 Collins street Sydney -
Schroeder was active between 1863 and 1891.”
It is quite possible for the clothes to be old fashioned and a hand me down. My ancestors in country NSW had large families and had farms, hotels and butcher shops so nothing fancy.
Thank you all
Regards
Terri
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The clothes may or may not have been hand-me-downs but that doesn't get away from the fact that this is 1860's-early70's cardstock.
jim
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Thank you Jim
I am happy with that. It also works in with a lot of the other photos in the album.
Of the photos investigated so far of the 100 in the album it has been 1860s and 70s.
The owner of the album died in 1888.
Regards
Terri
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Roy
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Been playing with this one - :D :D Thanks for changing the title of the thread!!
Wiggy ;)
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Thank you Roy
It is now all so clear you can see the stitching on the lapel great job and his eyes are amazingly clear.
Thank you Wiggy
Looks great and you have created a soft mood even with the spotty vest.
Regards
:D
Terry
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Do any of the Maitland photos show the town or buildings? I can probably identify them based on my research. thanks, Peter