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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Ann Baker on Monday 02 July 12 22:18 BST (UK)
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Hi all
Does anyone know where the nearest church to Camghouran would have been in the late 1700/early 1800s please?
Ann :D
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Try "Braes of Rannoch" parish church Ann.
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Thanks Skoosh!
Ann :D
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Camghouran (St Micheal's) Fortingall has its own burial ground.
Do you want us to look up any Monument Inscriptions?
Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)
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Hi Throth
That is really kind of you.
I have discovered that my 5x gt grandfather Duncan Cameron was born there tho he married and died in Paisley which is where I hail from. However I'd really like to know what became of his parents Alexander and (K)Catherine (nee Cameron) as well as trying to get further back if possible.
Duncan was born in 1780 and I have found a marriage for Alexander and Catherine in 1775 tho I have also found two children with those parents born in Camghouran in 1770 and 1773.
I don't know the area other than a trip to Pitlochry a very long time ago other than I know Camghouran isn;t the biggest of places but I know the Camerons are a prominent name.
I haven't got any more info at the moment as have just found them the other day so if you have MIs that would be fab!
Ann :D
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Alex Cameron 8.2.1808 59, w Catharine C. 28.2.1810 70;
(west side; shield, two supporters men) pro rege et patria
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Hi Throth
Thank you so much!
Ann :D
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Suggestions -
"A Highland Parish" by Alex Stewart a good read even if there is no additional material.
Secondly, have you looked at the 'Statistics of the Annexed Estates 1755 - 56' ?
It mentions Alex Cameron jnr in Easter Camaghuran.
They listed whole families sometimes - you might be lucky.
Throth
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Hi Troth
Many thanks. Will certainly have a read as finding names notwithstanding I like many of us searching for our ancestors like to know a bit about the place, the times they lived in etc.
I knew there had to be Highland blood somewhere in my tree (12/16ths with gt gts are Irish tho I think a few certainly were originally Scottish but yet to be proven).
Ann :D
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Here's an odd one -
Do you have 'Elgin' as a female forename in your family?
There is another stone which might be of interest.
Alex Cameron, da Elgin 1800 10
(This is next to another one for Elgin Cameron who died at Carie in 1948)
Get back to us on the borenich website if we can be of further assistance.
Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)
P.S. The NGR is NN553565 if you are using the 1st Ed. 6" OS at the NLS
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Throth, might this not be "died at Elgin"?
Skoosh.
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Don't think so .............
Second MI reads
Elgin Cameron d Easter Carie 18.7.1948 68, da of Duncan C. & Christina McNaughton
Throth
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There is an Elgin , don't know yet if one of my lot and there is an OPR marraige for an Elgin with those parents on SP.
Ann :D
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Could be worse, Ballachulish!
Skoosh.
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I at last got a copy of the relevant pages of the book recommended by Throth - courtesy of the Scottish Genie Society in Edinburgh. :D
Now the next trick is working out which was which as there were quite a few of them. I'm quite taken by the rebellious bit - especially on my mum's side cos I thought they were all good boys and girls til I started researching! How wrong can you be! :o
Am finding this extremly interesting cos I just thought they were all weavers - apparently not!
Ann ;)
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Hi All
As a native of the Braes of Rannoch, I can confirm that there is a Clan Cameron burial ground at Camghouran.
The burial ground is located about half way along the straight stretch of road and is about 200 meters of the main road towards the loch. There is a small track that leads towards the gates of grounds.
Hope this helps
Jock
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Hi,
Is there anyone on this site who can help me with information on my family? For years I researched my ancestor Archibald Scott born in 1765 in Old Castleton, Roxburghshire, Scotland in the Borders region, but found no leads at all. Just recently I found that he actually came from Camghouran!!! Does anyone have any information on the Scott family from Camghouran? Archibald was born there in 1765 and came to America before 1783. Supposedly his father's name was John Scott (1741-1792) and his mother was Margaret Duncan (1743-1794). I have name and dates all the way back to 1560, but no other information at all. Can anyone provide any further info to me? Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you, Susan Scott Brouillard
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The name Scott is about right for a Border shepherd moving to Perthshire, replacing evicted tenants at the start of the Highland Clearances, which lasted until the 1880's.
Skoosh.
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Thank you, Skoosh, I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps that is why Archibald said at one point that he was from Old Castleton and at another that he was from Camghouran. I just wish I could find some definite evidence of Scotts in Camghouran. Thank you for thinking of the possible reason why both places are mentioned. :)
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Susan, found an Alexander Scott, Balnald, Fortingall, (not far from Rannoch so they were about) married to a Catherine MacFarlane, Auchtergaven, Sep' 5 1817, set up home at Waterloo, Auchtergaven.
Must be new property as the battle was just fought!
Skoosh.
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Oh my goodness--thank you for this and any information. I have actually visited Fortingall before. Such a beautiful village. How exciting to think my Scotts may have come from there. I hope to get to Camghouran when we visit again in November-December of this year. Thank you again! Susan
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Used to fish Rannoch about twenty years ago Susan, there was a local keeper named Scott used to prop the bar up at Rannoch Station. Think he worked away in Uist at the time.
Bests,
Skoosh.
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That is fascinating--to think there could still be Scotts in the area. I can't wait to visit. Thank you again.
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Hi All
Waterloo is a small village just north of Bankfoot Parish of Auchtergaven
Yours Aye
BruceL
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An Elgin Menzies (daughter to Menzies of Culdares) was married to a Duncan McNaughton (described as being 'in Meggernie'). Susan McNaughton married Alexander Cameron (a schoolmaster at Camghouran). Susan and Alexander had two daughters named Elgin - the first lived 1790-1800 and the 2nd was born in 1804. There must be some family link between Duncan McNaughton and Susan McNaughton. Going by the fact that Elgin seems to have been the first born daughter of Susan then Duncan McNaughton and Elgin Menzies were probably the parents of Susan McNaughton.
The Elgin Cameron who died in 1948 was the daughter of Duncan Cameron and Christian (sometimes written as Christina) McNaughton. Duncan's parents were Donald Cameron and Margaret Cameron. Christian McNaughton's parents were John McNaughton and Margaret McNaughton.
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As a local who was brought up in this area I remember Scott from Rannoch Station, he owned the hotel and was not a keeper, I know of no other Scotts in this area. There were many Cameron families along the south side of Loch Rannoch in my youth, now all gone. For anyone researching their Cameron ancestry in Rannoch a visit to the graveyard is a must, the Camghouran Camerons came from Lochaber and were famed for their unruly rebellious ways, Donald Cameron was hanged for sheepstealing in the 1770s to try to pacify the locals, it apparently worked.