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I am doing some research for my sister in law.
Her grandfather was Robert Henry Bennett Evans, he emigrated to Buffalo, New York, USA about 1909 and she would like to know more about his family.
We came up with the full name of Robert Henry Bennett Evans from his World War I draft registration card which states that he was British, that he was born July 4, 1883.
I think I found his birth in BMD registers, July-Sep 1883 in West Derby (Liverpool) Lancashire, England; in the index it is given as Robert Henry B Evans. His father is named as John. We think we found his name on a manifest list in 1909, Robert H Evans, which also lists his father's name as J Bennett Evans, Crest Bank, New Brighton, Ches
My sister-in-law wrote to me:
Thanks especially for the info on my grandfather, Robert Evans. I know that he came to the US from Liverpool around the turn of the century, when he was 18. He came by himself, but had a big family, originally from Wales. I think his father's name was John, from a small town we visited on the coast of Wales ( Something like Pthwelly (sp?), and my great-grandmother [Robert's mother] was Mary, from the Isle of Anglesy. He only corresponded with one brother over the years, and the trail ends there.
I may post this on Liverpool site too...? or Cheshire??
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This looks like the family in 1901
RG13/3479/5/1
5 Eden or Elm Bank, Everton
John B Evans, 44, living on own means, b, Pwllheli, Carnarvon
Mary E, , 42
Jane H, , 19
Robert H, 17
John E, 16
Annie M, 14
Mary G, 12
Herbert W, 10
Catherine A Ellis, 28, cook domestic, b. Dollgelly, Merioneth
Anne Thomas, 25, housemaid, b. Talisarn(?), Carnarvon
Others b. Liverpool
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In 1891
RG12/2957/110/24
3 Elm Bank, Walton Breck Road, Everton
John Bennett Evans, 34, living on own means, b, Pwllheli, Carnarvon
Mary Elizabeth, 32
Jane Helena , 9
Robert Henry, 7
Annie Margaret, 4
Mary Grace , 2
Herbert W, 3 mths
and 2 servants
Others b. Liverpool
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Marriage Sept q, 1880, West Derby, 8b 682
John Bennett Evans and Mary Elizabeth Jones on the same page
(Lancashire BMD have the marriage at St Michael, Toxteth Park)
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from Liverpool Mercury, July 31 1880
Marriages: July 23 at St Michael's in the Hamlet, near Liverpool, John Bennett Evans of Pwllheli to Mary Elizabeth, third daughter of John Jones, Elm Bank, Liverpool and Alma Lodge, Anglesey
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Liverpool Mercury, May 1 1894
Births
Bennett-Evans - April 27 at Chadwick-mount, Everton-valley, the wife of John Bennett-Evans of a daughter
Deaths - April 28 at Chadwick-mount, Everton-valley the infant daughter of John Bennett Evans
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Possible Deaths
John B Evans June q, Birkenhead, 1920 8a 660. Aged 63
John B Evans, June q, 1930, Liverpool 8b 10. Aged 75
From your information, the first one looks the most likely
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Brevitas -
WOW it sounds right, the names, the places, some other little bit of family information that she knew.
It looks like Mary Elizabeth Jones Evans' father, John Jones, lived in two places, the second corresponding to where my sister in law remembered her Great Grandmother as being from.
Does it give the name of Mary Elizabeth's mother anywhere? I have found two family trees for this family, and the names are different for the mother, with different towns. That gives me an idea, I could see where the towns were located...
Thanks a bunch.
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I've not looked for the Jones family so far - Mary's birth place is consistently down as Liverpool. Will have a look now.
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Possible
1871
RG10/3816/42/28
22 Nicholson Street, Everton
John Jones, 44, joiner, b. Anglesea (sic)
Cathrine, 42
Mary E, 12
Ada Emily, 8
Others b. Liverpool
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Nearest that I can get to John B at the moment:
1861
?. Caernarvon Road, Aberech,Pwllheli
RG9/4329/22/14
Richard Evans, 29, tailor
Rebechah, 32, b. Aberech
Jane, 9
Thomas, 7
John, 5
Richard, 3
Morris, 1
Others b. Pwllheli
I think the 1880 marriage cert might be the best route - unless someone has access to the St Michael's registers,
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That possible looks good, but it offers a third choice.
It looks like on her marriage, her father, John, was from Elm Bank, Liverpool and some lodge, Alma Lodge, in Anglesey, which fits with my sister in law thinking they were from Anglesey Isle in Wales.
I have seen two trees, one gives the mother's name as Elizabeth Jones, info comes from a census, though the poster is a descendant. The other one has sourced the information from Griffith J.E. "Pedigrees of Anglesey and Caernarvonshire families" , if they have info right, they put Ann Elias. I am not sure how to verify one or the other. If Ann Elias, then there is a lot of ancestry.
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I have only seen one mention of a father for John Bennett Evans, and it was a Griffith, sourced to some censuses, 1861, 1871,
we think John Bennett born about 1857, yours makes sense. I have not seen the others so cannot say, but am beginning to see some holes in that tree, perhaps.
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I have the Griffith Pedigrees book but it's very small print and you'd need to get what is called a 'gateway ancestor' to use it. I had to ge back to 1690 to trace one of my lines and link in - and it was an unusual surname, at that. My guess, though I may be wrong, is that it is likely to be wishful thinking, especially with Jones.
The marriage cert would be the best bet. It might be worth you looking for Mary Elizabeth's birth record as well.
Don't take any notice of the trees - verify all information. There are some real howlers in the Ancestry trees :-X
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Just found this
John JONES, Aug 24th, 5 Elm Bank, Walton Breck Rd, aged 87, formerly of Alma Lodge Anglesey, interred Anfield cemetery August 28, 1900
http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/anfieldinterments7.html
Will go back to the 1891 census and have a snoop at number 5 - they might have moved there after John died.
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Wonder if this is him on previous page - down as 1 Elm Bank
RG12 2957 110 23
John Jones, widower, 77, living on his own means, b. Anglesey, Hen-eglwys
2 servants
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Problem is that going back, there are at least 2 John Jones b. Anglesey, living in the Liverpool area :-\
I'll check the probate records
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Very interesting
Probate
John Jones of Elm-bank, Walton Breck road, Liverpool, builder, died 24 August 1900. Probate 23 October to Hugh Owen Jones, farmer and Ann Morgan widow. Effects £64272.17s.2d
(I did find a builder who fitted on the 1881)
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1891
(same ref as John)
9 Elm Bank
Ann Morgan, widow, 47, living on own means, b. Liverpool
Edith Grace, daughter, 19, do, do
2 servants
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1881
RG11/3651/10/13
67 Bosell Street, Toxteth
John Jones, 68, builder, b. ?Llanfechele, Anglesey - could it be Llanfigael ???
Elizabeth, 63, b. ?Llyn/rog, Carmarthen
PS - quite a few Mary Elizabeth Jones born West Derby 1857-58 :(
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I missed a vital clue - she was the third daughter - getting late so will investigate later today!
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:) :) :)
1871
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V55T-TSH
Address is Alma Lodge on the census image
John down as 'house and landowner'
G'night
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Just one more -
1851
HO107 2190 359 27
Whitfield House, Bootle Lane, Kirkdale
John Jones, 37, proprietor of houses, b. Heneglwys, Anglesea
Ann, 31, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesea
William, 10, b. Liverpool
Richard, 8, b; Everton
Ann, 7. do
John Elias, 5, do
Edward, 1, do
Thomas P, 6 mths, do
Eleanor Williams, 20, house servant b, Llanbeulan, Anglesea
Mary Davies, 15, nurse, b. Liverpool
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Getting swamped here. My headache has become yours! ;)
I agree about the howlers on ancestry sites. Even if one sounds good, with some leads, there is usually a patch of people that are wrong.
Morgan isnt ringing a bell, but I have only been on this for a few hours...
A will or a wedding document should do it. Or if I had her death register. Hmm.
As you said, lots of Mary Elizabeth Jones. I have found one or two contemporary John Bennett Evans in Wales too, but she had the town of Pwllhali or some such, so that is a good clue. Lots of Jones though. And we all want to be nobility of course! ;) ;)
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It's 4 am in the morning here - you go read all that nice census info that I've found ;D ;D
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You are right, I just checked the clock. You will be a wreck tomorrow.
MORGAN - I see is a granddaughter...not wife's name. Ann Morgan who was living with them. So she would be in will etc.
Thank you, this is a lot, as I said. Pretty interesting.
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The Ann Morgan is on the Probate entry - she is his neighbour (at number 9) - see my earlier postings!
Birth reg for son John Elias Jones:
Mar q, 1846, West Derby, 20 1045
A couple of marriages with John Jones and an Ann Elias on same page
Sept q, Liverpool, 1839, 2o 194
June q, Liverpool, 1840, 20 184
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You will be a wreck tomorrow.
No ;D
One of the trees has ref to these two censuses. They do look plausible:
1871
RG10/5705/5/2
Penmount square, Denio, Pwllheli
Jane Evans, 54, caprenter's wife
John Bennett Evans, 14
Evan Evans, 12
all born Pwllheli
1861
RG9/2738/96/4
Riversdale Road, Garston, Lancs
Henry Bennett, 39, gardener b. Lancashire
Ann Bennett, 40, b. Pwllheli
John Evans, visitor, 4, b.do
Mary Evans, do, 21, housemaid, b do
If this is correct, suggest that Ann could be sister of John's mother or father.
Added 20/07/12 - Have now found that Henry Bennett married Ann Robert April 1852. This suggests that John's mother (Jane Roberts) and Ann were sisters.
How did he get to be 'living on own means by 1891?
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The Evans family in 1851 - looks like this is the Mary on the 1861:
HO107/2513/290/1
Mount Square, Denio
Griffith Evans, 38, ships carpenter, b. Abererch
Jane, 34
Mary,d, 11
Elizabeth,d, 5
Others b. Pwllheli
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1841
HO107/1392/4/8/8
Denio, Pwllheli
Griffith Evans, 25, shipwright
Jane, 20
George Owen, 10 mths
All b. Caernarvonshire
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[The Ann Morgan is on the Probate entry - she is his neighbour (at number 9) - see my earlier postings!
Birth reg for son John Elias Jones:
Mar q, 1846, West Derby, 20 1045
A couple of marriages with John Jones and an Ann Elias on same page
Sept q, Liverpool, 1939, 2o 194
June q, Liverpool, 1940, 20 184
Comments:
Ann Morgan
I reviewed the earlier info, and see an Ann Morgans as granddaughter, 1871 census, aged 5.
I got a (lousy) copy of the document off thegenealogist.org for 1891, and confirms what you have, widow. Oops. that seems like two persons then, doubt she would have gone back to a maiden name in that time.
So that is where I am getting granddaughter, if same person.
Marriage:
are the dates 1839 and 1840? That would make more sense than 1939, 1940 (though I am not that sharp today)
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Brevitas -
You ARE good.
Tracking John Bennett Evans...
Makes very much sense.
1841-1871. Griffith must have passed after 1859 birth of Evan (1871 census) and in 1861 little John is with his sister, possible, at the Bennett's, where he undoubtedly wow-ed them, or they, he, and he added that name to his. Interesting. More to learn!
I saw a transcription of 1871 Census, with Jane as wife, no 'carpenter's wife' - which I am glad that you found, it is the best clue.
How did he get to be 'living on own means by 1891?
Must've been by marriage to Mary Elizabeth. He had a Lancashire connection, per your finds, staying with a relative.
The family here in the US says that they were told the family in England was wealthy, but that is not always a reliable story, sort of common to build up ancestors that way. But in this case, it may be true.
I would like to eliminate Elizabeth Jones as a mother of Mary Elizabeth, ... if mother is Ann Elias, that would be an easy, neat tie up.
But these things are not easy usually.
Like you suggested, church records for the marriage and birth of Mary Elizabeth at St. Michaels should point to it.
Is there a way to order the Will of John Jones, online? I am familiar with the Canturbury probates site, not Lancashire...
THANKS SO MUCH for all you have found, this is all very good.
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Yep - 1839 and 1840 - it was 4.25 am when I posted :-X
I'll amend.
I think that Ann Morgan (neighbour) must have been appointed joint executor with Hugh Owen Jones. It might be worth locating him.
Also, worth getting John Elias Evans birth cert:
Birth reg for son John Elias Jones:
Mar q, 1846, West Derby, 20 1045
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Re wills - you'll probably have to order York:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/willafter1858.htm
I've only ever ordered from York.
I have the full details of York but can't find the online link at the moment - try Nat Archives, wills after 1858.
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Found it buried in a look up that I'd been doing for someone else ::)
http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills
Scroll to
What if I cannot get to First Avenue House or a Registry?
What if I cannot get to First Avenue House or a Registry?
You should complete the form PA1S and enclose the appropriate fee (or write and provide the full name, address and date of death of the deceased, and what documents you require). You should send the completed form or letter to:
Postal Searches and Copies Department
Leeds District Probate Registry
York House
York Place
Leeds
LS1 2BA
Please provide the full name, address and date of death of the deceased, stating what you require and enclosing the appropriate fee which is £6 for the first copy and £1 for every additional copy .
Form PA1S is accessed on the main link :) :)
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From Lancs opc site
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Aigburth/stmichael/index.html
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well, that confirms our findings :)
Can you check the John Jones and Ann Elias marriages 1839 and 40, please:
A couple of marriages with John Jones and an Ann Elias on same page
Sept q, Liverpool, 1839, 2o 194
June q, Liverpool, 1840, 20 184
Added - not coming up so far - maybe the parish has not been transcribed
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I can only find Marriage allegations - not registers
Intended marriage: Licence issued 02 Sept 1839 John Jones 21 and upwards bachelor Joiner Liverpool and Ann Elias 21 and upwards spinster Liverpool - Marriage to take place at St David's Liverpool
Intended marriage: Licence issued 09 Jun 1840 John Jones of Liverpool Ships steward & Ann Elias of Menai Bridge spinster - marriage to take place at St David's Liverpool
Confusing - is this the same pair not going through with first marriage or two different couples with same name? Two separate BMD entries.
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If he was a ship's steward he might well have gone to sea before he could marry in 1839 (there were limits to the licences).
Ann was originally born Llanbadrig, on the 1851 - my Reply #22 above
I see you've got him as a joiner on the 1839 - maybe a ship's carpenter. It doesn't fit with his later wealth :-\
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Odd
Maybe they weren't married in 1841 :
https://familysearch.Blimey-K49 - this not working. Try this:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ovi/
but what about William (10 on the 1851) ?
Also a possible bpt:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FM96-P5R
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Just a bit of interest. Could this be him.
The Wrexham Advertiser, August 10, 1878;
The National Eistedfodd was held at Birkenhead , and a John Bennet Evans entered the `prose` competion, with a prize of £100.
The piece he entered was a `romance describing Welsh life and character at the close of the 17th c. `
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Oh how great! Must be he, a man of letters, huh?
Now, how to find a copy...
THANKS!
that is the area where he lived, 1891, Birkenhead. Elm Bank. and he grew up in Wales.
maybe he was wooing Mary Elizabeth already.
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One of our members has sent me details from The Welsh Builder On Merseyside*.
A summary of the relevant section:
John Jones, Elm Bank and Anglesey 1814-1900. He moved from Bodffordd, Anglesey to Liverpool about the same time as the Elias brothers and married Ann Elias, sister of Owen Elias, He lived at Elm Bank, Anfield and after her death at Chadwick Mount. He was a deacon at Netherfield Rd C. M. (Calvinistic Methodist) Church in 1879 and then moved to Anfield Rd. C.M. Church in 1887. He built largely in the Walton and Anfield districts. At one time he lived in Alma Lodge Llanfechell, Anglesey.
I have sent this to miles but include it here for completeness
My initial findings on Owen Elias:
1851:
Netherfield Road, Everton
HO107/2190/25/42
Owen Elias, 44,joiner and builder employing 19 men, b. Anglesea
Jane, wife, 27
Jane Sarah, 6
Grace Louisa, 3
William Owen, 1
Ellen Jones, ser, 32, b. Anglesea
Mary Rickett, do, 23, b. Montgomeryshire
Others born Liverpool
There are various reports and adverts in local papers on the family - esp. Nov 1889 about meetings of creditors of William Owen Elias (aged 1 in the above census), etc., etc.
Marriage at St Mary, Walton of Owen Elias, joiner, and Jane Lewis 17 Nov 1841. Owen's father recorded as William Elias, Farmer.
Full details at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
If Owen was brother to Ann, her father is (presumably) William Elias, farmer.
* see here for book ref: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58704.msg2226205.html#msg2226205
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I wonder if this is the father in 1841:
HO107/1361/3/4/10
Creigia Mawr, Llanbadrig
William Elias, 70, farmer
Mary, 15
Hugh, 2
All b. Anglesey
Added to this address - separated with a /
John Hughes, 15, ag Lab
Eleanor Williams, 15, FS
Anne Elias, 20
William Jones, 9 months
Eureka - she was married or at least had son William Jones with her by the looks of it.
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Will of William Elias, Llanbadrig, 1845 here:
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/799670
Mentions children - but no Ann ???
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Reading the will is tricky - but it is free :)
I've now found mention of :
Late son Hugh and children John, Grace, Mary, Elizabeth, Owen, William and Edward
Also found mention to daughters Anne, Margaret and Emma
Anne got a shilling but may have had a dowry :-\
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I've looked up my Griffiths Pedigrees book - had to get the magnifying glass out.
Why didn't I look there at the beginning (OK, it was on a high shelf) ::)
Anyway~
The Eliases of Plas Y Glyn, etc.
William Elias of Creigau (will proved April 20, 1845) married Grace (I got back to him )
Children:
Owen of Liverpool m Jane Lewis
William o.c
Edward o.c
Hugh m Perry Edwards
Margaret ob
Ann ob March 23 1891 m. John Jones of Elm Bank
Emma m John Bulkeley Owen
Elizabeth m William Prytherch of Liverpool
Children of Ann Elias and John Jones
William o.s.p.
Anne m William Morgan - would this be the Ann Morgan in the probate record :)
Richard o.s.p.
Edward m. Elizabeth Orrel
Hugh Owen m Hannah Hughes - I assume this was the Hugh Owen Jones,named as executor in John's probate record
Grace m. David Lewis
Robert Henry
Mary Elizabeth m John Bennet Evans
Children of Mary Elizabeth and John Bennet Evans
Helena
Robert Henry - your Robert
John Elias
Annie
Mary
Herbert William
The family appear to be descended from Richard of Derwyn Isa, Clynnog - his son Elias ap Richard of Gefail Talhenbont, a smith b. 1674 m. Ann
All spellings as in Griffiths! I could scan the page for you, if you're interested.
Added - there were quite a few postings that you missed yesterday - suggest you review the thread from this link onwards:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,607126.msg4566579.html#msg4566579
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Thank you! I appreciate all of this, so much information. I missed some? Ok, I will go back and organize and re-look at it all. I started a timeline with info so I can see any holes, an outline. I think I am not as quick as you are. ;)
The original John Jones, a builder, mentioned a while back, with a wife, Elizabeth, must be another person, a red-herring in this. Well, with all the Jonses and Evanses, it is a tough one.
My family had thousands of Richards, Samuels, Edwards, and two female names, Elizabeth and Ann with the same last name (MILES). I nearly went cross-eyed.
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I've got 8 separate Jones lines ;D ;D ;D
Suggest that you press the PRINT icon (top or bottom right) (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Themes/history/images/english/print.gif) and save so that you can go through everything at your leisure :)
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thanks. think I am coming up on some leisure tonight.
a helpful dude suggested I post this link, it looks pretty fabulous..lots to check out:
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I183997&tree=Welsh
and to look at the new, ongoing, beta, etc. Welsh project
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Welsh_Families_Project
which I need to spend some time on (see link in first paragraph to start a search)
a quick search didn't land me any results so I will spend some more time with it. A lot of good resources are being added to this site, rather amazing.
Thanks everyone for help, it would have taken years to get this far on my own.
:D
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First links looks uncanily like the info from the Griffiths pedigrees - just seen it sources it - see footnotes - check it line by line to my posting - 'dude' obviously hadn't read what I'd put up ;D ;D ;D
Second link is also a similar source to Griffiths.
Not sure either will give you anything more than I gave yesterday from my copy :-X :-X :-X
Will of William Elias (Reply #44) has him dying 23 April 1845 - short link isn't working at the moment but the NatLib sometimes has hiccups
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OK going through this page.
Tried to get the Will of William Elias to open, but just getting the spinning disk.
May be my computer/internet connection
anyone else?
Will of William Elias, Llanbadrig, 1845 here:
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/799670
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we are on real time I guess. youre posting as I am typing. Guess I should check those red flags.
off to make some supper, have a real live 17 yr old who is always starving
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Will link isn't working tonight, although the long way still gives that handle.
Try tomorrow or go in the long way:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0owm/
*Put in 1845 1845 and press Save
Leave Diocese blank
Select Name in drop down 1 - put in Elias
Select Name in drop down 2 and put in William
then press Search
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A very interesting thread about the Elias family. Can anyone locate Plas Y Glynn?
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Also there was a strong link between the Elias family and Lord Newborough - later William Elias and son Edward Elias were land managers for what must have been most of the 19th century. For a long period the family occupied Maern Abbey and built the current structure around 1850 - was this part of the Newborough estates at the time or was this an Elias property?
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If anyone is interested in the Elias line that starts in Clynnog - moves over to Plas Y Glynn near Llanfwrog then to the Abbey Llanrwst and then to Gorswen Caerhun - William - Edward - William - Edward etc etc let me know. Have done a lot of work on these lines including maternal.
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I am doing some research for my sister in law.
Her grandfather was Robert Henry Bennett Evans, he emigrated to Buffalo, New York, USA about 1909 and she would like to know more about his family.
We came up with the full name of Robert Henry Bennett Evans from his World War I draft registration card which states that he was British, that he was born July 4, 1883.
I think I found his birth in BMD registers, July-Sep 1883 in West Derby (Liverpool) Lancashire, England; in the index it is given as Robert Henry B Evans. His father is named as John. We think we found his name on a manifest list in 1909, Robert H Evans, which also lists his father's name as J Bennett Evans, Crest Bank, New Brighton, Ches
My sister-in-law wrote to me:
Thanks especially for the info on my grandfather, Robert Evans. I know that he came to the US from Liverpool around the turn of the century, when he was 18. He came by himself, but had a big family, originally from Wales. I think his father's name was John, from a small town we visited on the coast of Wales ( Something like Pthwelly (sp?), and my great-grandmother [Robert's mother] was Mary, from the Isle of Anglesy. He only corresponded with one brother over the years, and the trail ends there.
I may post this on Liverpool site too...? or Cheshire??
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A very interesting thread about the Elias family. Can anyone locate Plas Y Glynn?
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I am doing some research for my sister in law.
Her grandfather was Robert Henry Bennett Evans, he emigrated to Buffalo, New York, USA about 1909 and she would like to know more about his family.
We came up with the full name of Robert Henry Bennett Evans from his World War I draft registration card which states that he was British, that he was born July 4, 1883.
I think I found his birth in BMD registers, July-Sep 1883 in West Derby (Liverpool) Lancashire, England; in the index it is given as Robert Henry B Evans. His father is named as John. We think we found his name on a manifest list in 1909, Robert H Evans, which also lists his father's name as J Bennett Evans, Crest Bank, New Brighton, Ches
My sister-in-law wrote to me:
Thanks especially for the info on my grandfather, Robert Evans. I know that he came to the US from Liverpool around the turn of the century, when he was 18. He came by himself, but had a big family, originally from Wales. I think his father's name was John, from a small town we visited on the coast of Wales ( Something like Pthwelly (sp?), and my great-grandmother [Robert's mother] was Mary, from the Isle of Anglesy. He only corresponded with one brother over the years, and the trail ends there.
I may post this on Liverpool site too...? or Cheshire??
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Hi
Since this is a re-posting from from some years ago, and there has been information already discovered, I am not sure what specifically is now required. If you are wanting the position of Plas-y-Glyn it can be found here https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/4218c0d8-622c-4e7a-b577-06bc0e1b31b3 .
If you want to research further into John Evans' Pwllheli background the best site for information covering that area is yffor.com which has all the parish records, censuses, etc. for the Lleyn.
Glyn