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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: JAKnighton on Thursday 19 July 12 13:58 BST (UK)
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This is going to be difficult. I am researching the Tweedie family, which from my research is a very old Scottish family. My grandfather is a Tweedie and is from Glasgow, but when I researched his family I found that his Great Grandfather is actually from Ireland. The trouble is, I don't know from where.
This is what I know about him;
David Tweedie born about 1845 in Ireland. First appearance in Glasgow is in a marriage record where he married Ann Robertson, also from Ireland, in 1876. He was a Brickfield Labourer and his parents are listed as John Tweedie, agricultural labourer and Martha Pendleton (I don't think they came to Glasgow as there are no records on ScotlandsPeople for them). He was a Presbyterian. He died on 18 Aug 1906.
Here's my guess; I think that he and Ann Robertson came from the same part of Ireland and arrived in Glasgow together to get married and start a new life. There are other Robertsons as witnesses on the Marriage Record so it looks like other members of her family went with them.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but from looking around it seems that Tweedy is the more common spelling of the surname in Ireland whereas Tweedie is the original, more Scottish spelling. All his records say Tweedie but that might not mean anything.
I have my suspicions that he is connected to the Ulster Scots but I have no proof of this.
Looking on Irish genealogy websites has turned up nothing, but then again I don't know where to look.
Is there anything I could do to help make my search easier?
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Unfortunately since David was born well before the start of civil records you need a more detailed location to start a search for any Irish records - ideally the name of the town or townland your Tweedie & Robertson families came from.
A quick search of Griffith's Valuation, which was a Land taxation survey, shows that the surname is quite rare here and more concentrated in several Ulster counties - Down, Armagh, Cavan and Tyrone. A smaller number appear in counties Dublin, Wexford, Clare, Antrim and Cork.
There are a number of John Tweedy records on Griffith's that might be work checking out - see the following link. The dates of the valuation returns vary depending on the area - but should be between 1846 and about 1864.
John Tweedy - valuation listings (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=64&Submit.y=16&familyname=tweedy&wildcard=on&firstname=john&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=)
Have you checked all the census returns that David and Ann were alive for ?
These can sometimes give a more detailed place of birth...
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)
Shane
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Hi there,
The free index on ifhf shows a David Tweedie baptised in 1843 to a John and Martha Tweedie in County Down.
The mother's maiden name is not coming up as a match to Pendelton though ???
Tara
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Couldn't find anything for you but I'm bound to say that the combination of Tweedie / Pendleton smacks of Counties Down and Armagh.
Also, just to be aware that I have come across the surname Pendleton being interchanged with Pentland on several occasions.
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Thanks for the help everyone, I appreciate it.
I was PM'ed the info on David Tweedie born in 1843 in Co. Down. That definitely seems to be him, as an Ann Robertson born 1854 appears in the same area, which fits exactly with the age of my Ann Robertson.
The only snag is the Pendleton name. However, I neglected to mention that the only record of John and Martha are on David's marriage and death certificates. They are both listed as deceased on each of these records. So they aren't there to speak for themselves, so it's possible that a maiden name could be misremembered.
It's possible that she may be Martha Pentland.
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Did the 'pm' give you the surname that was on ifhf against Martha ?
If not it only costs about 5 euro to buy the transcription !
Tara
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If it's a non-Catholic baptism, the record may not include a maiden surname....
S.
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Pendleton deaths;
Henry L Pendleton; 12/5/1854 (18)
Beechworth Australia
Eldest son of Captain H L Pendleton
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Samuel Pendleton (Derry); 1836 Hardwicke st Dublin
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Rev.Edmund Charles; 1846
Dunmanaway Cork
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Anna Maria Pendleton; 1841
Upper Leeson st Dublin
dtr of late Philip
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Chars-Henrietta are listed in Brian Cantwells Memorials of the Dead
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Passenger lists;
Capt Pendleton; 1859
Ship; Breman
Sail date; 9/7/1859
Southampton
from; New York
Arrived; 23/7/1859
Master; Wessells H
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William Pendleton; (34)
3rd class
Married
Miner
Ship; United Kingdom
from; New York
to; Glasgow
Arrived; 14/10/1865
Master; Munro Robert D
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Jack
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Hi Shane,
That's true.................I never thought of that !
Tara
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If the records for the parish in question go back before 1843 then a check for a marriage for John and Martha would be the next search to try..
The baptism record may include an occupation, which can sometimes help
Shane
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Pendleton and Pentland are the same surname. It is a widespread "mistake" according to some Pentland researchers who have much information of the family in the region, but also could be an early version of the name in the region.
John Tweedy and Martha Pentland were married Feb 5, 1823 in Donaghcloney. I know nothing more about the couple, but have some Tweedys from the area.
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Thanks for all of this information, it's really useful.
It's brilliant being able to know their marriage date, makes them seem like more than just a couple of names. I'm glad that I finally know just where in Ireland they come from, that was the biggest mystery.
Which records should I be looking at to find details of children and other relatives?
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If Pendleton and Pentland are the same surname the families have distinct histories. Generally, the Pendletons are English and the Pentlands Scottish. Philip Pendleton who sold Blackhall to George Henry Pentland being a prime example.
There are, however, later records of Pentlands at Donaghcloney, although not of the other variants, which may suggest more could be found from parish records.
There appear to be very few Tithe Applotments for Down, does anyone know why? Also there is no record of the name in Griffiths in this parish which suggests a break between an earlier famly and the late nineteenth century references.
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The Tithe Applotments are badly compiled, quite a few places are listed under the wrong county, for example a place I was searching for in Westmeath is listed under Cork, this might explain a lack of records for Down.
Best thing is to use familysearch, find a place in Down, go to the image and than search page by page from there, slow but safer.
I wonder if Partland could be related to Pentland?
I know it's believed to come from McFarland and/or another old Irlsh name which I can't remember at the moment but you could see how the two could get mixed up.
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"David Tweedie born about 1845 in Ireland. First appearance in Glasgow is in a marriage record where he married Ann Robertson, also from Ireland, in 1876. He was a Brickfield Labourer and his parents are listed as John Tweedie, agricultural labourer and Martha Pendleton (I don't think they came to Glasgow as there are no records on ScotlandsPeople for them). He was a Presbyterian. He died on 18 Aug 1906.
Here's my guess; I think that he and Ann Robertson came from the same part of Ireland and arrived in Glasgow together to get married and start a new life. There are other Robertsons as witnesses on the Marriage Record so it looks like other members of her family went with them."
There are births listed for that couple:
Jane Tweedie, b. 24 may 1877, Glasgow
John Tweedie, b. 16 nov 1878, Glasgow
William Tweedie, b. 2 jun 1880
Robert Tweedie, b. 1 jun 1882
David Tweedie, b. 1 jul 1884, Glasgow
Thomas Tweedie, b. 7 may 1886, Glasgow
Alexander Tweedie, b. 24 may 1888, Glasgow
James Tweedie, b. 17 sep 1890, Glasgow
Also there are two brothers listed for David Tweedy, b. 1843:
Thomas Tweedy
William Tweedy
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A John Tweedy married Martha Pentland Feb 5, 1823 in Donaghcloney. If this is your family, it sounds like there should be several more children. I am interested in some of the later Waringstown Tweedie/Tweedy families, so if you find more information, I'd love to hear.
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A John Tweedy married Martha Pentland Feb 5, 1823 in Donaghcloney. If this is your family, it sounds like there should be several more children. I am interested in some of the later Waringstown Tweedie/Tweedy families, so if you find more information, I'd love to hear.
Sorry, that is all I had. They are not my family, but I had collected the info on them.
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A word of caution; not all Pendletons are Pentlands. It is certainly true that there are examples of people with proved Pentland connections recorded with the name Pendleton or Pentleton but one example given below, Philip Pendleton of Meath and Dublin can be traced back to an ancient Pendleton family in England. He can easily mislead the unwary since his home was at Blackhall, Termonfeckin, indeed he may even have built the house. So far, however, evidence suggests that his only connection with the Pentland family was that he sold them Blackhall.
Pendleton deaths;
Henry L Pendleton; 12/5/1854 (18)
Beechworth Australia
Eldest son of Captain H L Pendleton
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Samuel Pendleton (Derry); 1836 Hardwicke st Dublin
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Rev.Edmund Charles; 1846
Dunmanaway Cork
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Anna Maria Pendleton; 1841
Upper Leeson st Dublin
dtr of late Philip
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Chars-Henrietta are listed in Brian Cantwells Memorials of the Dead
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Passenger lists;
Capt Pendleton; 1859
Ship; Breman
Sail date; 9/7/1859
Southampton
from; New York
Arrived; 23/7/1859
Master; Wessells H
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William Pendleton; (34)
3rd class
Married
Miner
Ship; United Kingdom
from; New York
to; Glasgow
Arrived; 14/10/1865
Master; Munro Robert D
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Jack
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Jane Tweedy married John Jack in 1897 and had two daughters; Janet and Mary; John died, so far as I have discovered, unmarried in 1938; William, also unmarried in 1922; Robert married Mary McMillan in 1910 and they produced at least five children; David is said to have married Mary Hood but I have found no evidence of this on SP, he died in 1939; Thomas died age ten, Alexander age twenty and James age two.
"David Tweedie born about 1845 in Ireland. First appearance in Glasgow is in a marriage record where he married Ann Robertson, also from Ireland, in 1876. He was a Brickfield Labourer and his parents are listed as John Tweedie, agricultural labourer and Martha Pendleton (I don't think they came to Glasgow as there are no records on ScotlandsPeople for them). He was a Presbyterian. He died on 18 Aug 1906.
Here's my guess; I think that he and Ann Robertson came from the same part of Ireland and arrived in Glasgow together to get married and start a new life. There are other Robertsons as witnesses on the Marriage Record so it looks like other members of her family went with them."
There are births listed for that couple:
Jane Tweedie, b. 24 may 1877, Glasgow
John Tweedie, b. 16 nov 1878, Glasgow
William Tweedie, b. 2 jun 1880
Robert Tweedie, b. 1 jun 1882
David Tweedie, b. 1 jul 1884, Glasgow
Thomas Tweedie, b. 7 may 1886, Glasgow
Alexander Tweedie, b. 24 may 1888, Glasgow
James Tweedie, b. 17 sep 1890, Glasgow
Also there are two brothers listed for David Tweedy, b. 1843:
Thomas Tweedy
William Tweedy
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So, I've made quite a few breakthroughs on this subject in the past couple of years. I apologise for not responding to all of your messages; RootsChat has not been notifying me of replies like it used to.
I discovered that David Tweedie had made a Poor Law application. I ordered a copy and there were a few enlightening facts. First of all, he was indeed born in County Down. He still gives his parents names as John Tweedie and Martha Pendleton. Still no insight on their birth or death dates, all I know is they were both deceased by the time he got married in 1876.
The most enlightening details were the descriptions of his siblings still residing in Ireland. They were described as follows;
Alexander, (married?), Carter, Belfast
John, (married?), Labourer, Lurgan
Thomas, (married?), Labourer, Moyallon
Robert, (married?), Labourer, Belfast
Eliza, single, Moyallon
He had not seen or heard from them for twenty years by the time of the application; 22nd Oct 1905.
Based on these details, I started searching through Irish records, and came to these conclusions;
Alexander Tweedy married Jane McCormick on September 29, 1859 in Banbridge, County Down. He was working as a Carman at the time. Four children have been found for the couple;
Jane Tweedy, born July 6, 1864 in Banbridge, Down
James Tweedie, born December 5, 1867 in Antrim
Martha Ann Tweedie, born January 15, 1870 in Antrim
Alexander Tweedie, born May 21, 1874 in Belfast, Antrim
John Tweedy married Margaret Kelly on November 6, 1857 in Magheralin, County Down. One child for the couple has been found;
David Tweedie, born December 27, 1865 in Lurgan, County Armagh
Thomas Tweedy was first married to Anne Willis on January 17, 1858 in Tullylish, County Down. He remarried (listed as widowed on marriage record) to Margaret Preshor on April 23, 1872 in Gilford, County Down.
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It's been previously suggested that Martha Pendleton was actually Pentland, and that a record exists for the marriage of John Tweedy & Martha Pentland in Donaghcloney, Down on February 5, 1823. However, I have been unable to locate the record.
I have baptism records for the following Tweedy's born in Lisnafiffy near Banbridge in County Down, all the children of a John & Martha Tweedie (no maiden surname supplied); Thomas in 1832, John in 1835, Alexander in 1837 and David in 1843. It seems very likely that these children are all siblings and match up with what we know about the family. Perhaps Robert and Eliza were born between 1823 and 1832?
One snag; there also exists a William Tweedy, born in 1830 in Lisnafiffy, whose parents are John and Martha. But in this record, Martha's maiden name is supplied as Patterson. This could be a mistranscription, but there is no way of knowing for sure.
What do you all think?
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I suspect a common mistake is to assume that all Pendletons were once Pentletons and therefore originally Pentlands. Your research appears to be proving that Martha was either a Pendleton or a Patterson. The whole premise that she was a Pentland seems to be based on the claim that a marriage record exists for 1823 in Donacloney. Tracing this claim back I find it was made by a contributor to Wikitree to whom I have now written asking for the source of the information. In their search for Pentland families I suspect that more than translation from Pendleton to Pentland has been made due to over enthusiasm on the part of researchers.
If Martha's name was Pentland rather than Pendleton and the error was misinterpretation of a verbal report of her name then one might expect the error to be corrected in Scotland where Pentland is a more common name than Pendleton. The latter name has its roots in England and a further clue may lie in the townland of Moyallon or Moyallan which was granted to a colony of the Society of Friends from England in 1685. Unfortunately there are no extant tithe records for the area so the first comprehensive survey is almost two hundred years later by which time there were no Pentlands, Pentletons or Pendletons in Moyallan. GRanted that is a survey of property owners so not comprehensive but it is all we have.
It may be worth noting the distribution of the three names in Co. Down in the Primary Valuation. All of the Pentlands were in Donaghadee, all of the Pendletons in Tullylish and the Pentletons were in Kilmore. There is evidence which suggests Pentlands in Kilmore were descended from a very old Pentland line in counties Louth and Meath so it is reasonable to suspect that the Pentletons are part of that family. Donaghadee was the main port of entry from Scotland with, inevitably, a strong Scottish contingent.
It would be interesting to know if Pendletons appear in clusters and whether these clusters coincide with clusters of Pentletons. One must ask whether later Pendletons became so as a result of a mutation of their name from Pentland through Pentleton or whether the opposite was the case.
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That contributor on WikiTree was me, and I got the Feb 5, 1823 marriage date from this topic. I hadn't realised the GEDCOM I uploaded to WikiTree included that fact. I usually put things like that in my 'working' database.
KatC sent me a PM about Martha Pendleton being Pentland, and for some reason I have deleted it.
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Thanks for that speed response. I have sent KatC a private message in the hope that she can shed further light. Based on the evidence you have produced, however, I am more inclined to favour the view that she is a Pendleton and this line have, therefore nothing to do with the Pentlands. It also has me wondering about other Pendleton/Pentland families in the area.
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Sorry guys, but I am moving and my records are sitting beside a disconnected computer 300 miles away. I may not be on-line with records beside me for another month. I will look for examples of name changes when I can. Quite a few of my families changed their spellings in minor or major ways, so I would not be surprised to see this as another example. I understand you want several instances, so I will look through the transcribed originals I have.
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Hi KatC, good luck with the move. Do you have any memory of where the record for John Tweedy & Martha Pentland's marriage came from? It seems like it's not online.
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I have a flash of some Seagoe Pentland/Pendleton/Pentleton records, but not any from Donaghcloney. It contains transcriptions from the Seagoe book, not original handwriting, probably starting in the late 1700's. My copies may not contain all the relevant pages and the early data is often vague. The researcher who gave me these pages also gave me the tree. That data may have been data I gave to him from the questionable source.
Seagoe records
George and Susanna Pentleton have Robert 1804 and Alexander in Killicomain in 1811, but Robert 1807 and Elizabeth in Killicomain in 1798 are children of George and Susanna Pentland.
John and Margaret Pendleton have daughter 1828 in Ballyhannon, but Rachel Pentland died 1849 at age 20.
Alexander and Elizabeth Pentland have John b 1807 in Drumgor but Elizabeth b 1801 in Drumgor is born to a Pentleton family. John b 1804 is born to Alexander Pentleton and wife, no location
Alexander and Mary Pentleton of Drumgor have Thomas 1829. This appears to be Thomas Pentland who married Jane Lyness at age 21 in 1850. Possibly the Alexander and Mart (probably Margaret with the apostrophe missing but could be Mary if the handwriting was bad) Pentland having Alexander in 1832 and Mary Jane in 1834 in Drumgor is the same person.
I suspect Samuel and Elizabeth Webb of Drumgor are another couple with a name change, but can't tell for sure.
I have no paper for taking notes except 3x3 post-its so I am having trouble matching entries. I can e-mail the jpegs of the Seagoe pages if someone wants to better follow this. There are a few Pendletons, more Pentletons, and then Pentlands, lots of Edenderry Pentlands in the later dates. These are the sort of entries that make me think the name changed.
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The David Tweedy born December 1865 is definitely mine. His parents were John and Margaret Campbell and he was baptised in Lurgan at Shankill COI This couple went on to have several more children. My great grandmother was Martha Tweedie (married David Hall) I have a theory that John was married previously to Margaret Kelly and that Martha was baptised in Magheralin COI (near Lurgan) born Edenballycoghill near Donaghcloney, Down. I suspect John Tweedies first wife died as there are no further baptisms recorded locally and he re-married prior to 1865 Margaret Campbell. The couple had the following children David 1865 John 1870, Mary 1872 Sarah Jane 1874 and Margaret Anne 1876. I currently live in this area and am happy to chase local records. Ann
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Hi, I have been reading your Rootschat comments on your Tweedy Family. I too am researching my great great grandfather William Tweedy from Newry (Co Down). William was a convict transported to Australia in 1849; he was 17 years old and the ONLY info I have on him is he was born 1830 was Presbyterian and spent time in the Newry Workhouse. He seems to have been educated and could read and write, always signing his name, not using a mark (X). He married in Australia, children Elizabeth (d) Mary, Martha, Robert, Jane, Ellen, Sarah and William (d), and a second William. As Banbridge was within 15 miles of Newry, I am hoping your Tweedy/Tweedie may be the family I am looking for. Hope to hear from you. Kind regards, Narelle.
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Hi, I have been reading your Rootschat comments on your Tweedy Family. I too am researching my great great grandfather William Tweedy from Newry (Co Down). William was a convict transported to Australia in 1849; he was 17 years old and the ONLY info I have on him is he was born 1830 was Presbyterian and spent time in the Newry Workhouse. He seems to have been educated and could read and write, always signing his name, not using a mark (X). He married in Australia, children Elizabeth (d) Mary, Martha, Robert, Jane, Ellen, Sarah and William (d), and a second William. As Banbridge was within 15 miles of Newry, I am hoping your Tweedy/Tweedie may be the family I am looking for. Hope to hear from you. Kind regards, Narelle.
Hi Narelle, that is very interesting, thanks for sharing. I do have a William Tweedy born 1830 in County Down who I believe is the son of John and Martha who I have discussed in this topic. Have you done or have you thought about doing a DNA test? I'm looking into doing one and it would be interesting if we had a match.
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Yes, I guess DNA is the only way to be sure. I have been considering doing DNA but it's not high on the agenda at the moment. By the way, my 2xgreat grandfathers full name was William John Tweedy, and my great grandmother was Martha Tweedy.
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I have a flash of some Seagoe Pentland/Pendleton/Pentleton records, but not any from Donaghcloney. It contains transcriptions from the Seagoe book, not original handwriting, probably starting in the late 1700's. My copies may not contain all the relevant pages and the early data is often vague. The researcher who gave me these pages also gave me the tree. That data may have been data I gave to him from the questionable source.
Seagoe records
George and Susanna Pentleton have Robert 1804 and Alexander in Killicomain in 1811, but Robert 1807 and Elizabeth in Killicomain in 1798 are children of George and Susanna Pentland.
John and Margaret Pendleton have daughter 1828 in Ballyhannon, but Rachel Pentland died 1849 at age 20.
Alexander and Elizabeth Pentland have John b 1807 in Drumgor but Elizabeth b 1801 in Drumgor is born to a Pentleton family. John b 1804 is born to Alexander Pentleton and wife, no location
Alexander and Mary Pentleton of Drumgor have Thomas 1829. This appears to be Thomas Pentland who married Jane Lyness at age 21 in 1850. Possibly the Alexander and Mart (probably Margaret with the apostrophe missing but could be Mary if the handwriting was bad) Pentland having Alexander in 1832 and Mary Jane in 1834 in Drumgor is the same person.
I suspect Samuel and Elizabeth Webb of Drumgor are another couple with a name change, but can't tell for sure.
I have no paper for taking notes except 3x3 post-its so I am having trouble matching entries. I can e-mail the jpegs of the Seagoe pages if someone wants to better follow this. There are a few Pendletons, more Pentletons, and then Pentlands, lots of Edenderry Pentlands in the later dates. These are the sort of entries that make me think the name changed.
Came across some Ireland Census Extracts -
1851 Census Abstract, Drumgor, Seagoe, Oneilland E
Robert Murray, married in 1847 to Easter, wife
children, Mary, age 10
Sarah, age 2
Margaret, 4 months,
Mary Pentland, 45, sister
Elizabeth Pentland, 8
Per the census abstract, the claimaint Elizabeth (married to Dowing), father Alexander Pentland, deceased.
Elizabeth married William Downey in 1876, and the census abstract was completed when she applied for benefits.
So this would seem to be the widow from the couple mentioned above, Alexander and Mary/Margaret Pentland of Drumgor.
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The more I read these comments, the more I am convinced the William Tweedy born June 1830 is my 2xgreat grandfather. William John Tweedy was in the Newry Workhouse in 1847 when he deliberately broke a shop window and stole 3 silver spoons with the intention of getting caught and transported.
He named his 1st daughter Elizabeth, his 2nd (my great grandma) Martha, and his 1st son Robert.
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Hello Doylers94 - a long time later.
I am looking for this side of Tweedie with a possible relation.
Thank you, Londonlivin
The David Tweedy born December 1865 is definitely mine. His parents were John and Margaret Campbell and he was baptised in Lurgan at Shankill COI This couple went on to have several more children. My great grandmother was Martha Tweedie (married David Hall) I have a theory that John was married previously to Margaret Kelly and that Martha was baptised in Magheralin COI (near Lurgan) born Edenballycoghill near Donaghcloney, Down. I suspect John Tweedies first wife died as there are no further baptisms recorded locally and he re-married prior to 1865 Margaret Campbell. The couple had the following children David 1865 John 1870, Mary 1872 Sarah Jane 1874 and Margaret Anne 1876. I currently live in this area and am happy to chase local records. Ann
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Hello- a long time later. I am looking for this side of Tweedie with a possible relation.
Would it be possible to ask if you on the DNA?
Thank you
The David Tweedy born December 1865 is definitely mine. His parents were John and Margaret Campbell and he was baptised in Lurgan at Shankill COI This couple went on to have several more children. My great grandmother was Martha Tweedie (married David Hall) I have a theory that John was married previously to Margaret Kelly and that Martha was baptised in Magheralin COI (near Lurgan) born Edenballycoghill near Donaghcloney, Down. I suspect John Tweedies first wife died as there are no further baptisms recorded locally and he re-married prior to 1865 Margaret Campbell. The couple had the following children David 1865 John 1870, Mary 1872 Sarah Jane 1874 and Margaret Anne 1876. I currently live in this area and am happy to chase local records. Ann
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In the meantime here's the link to the birth of a David TWEEDIE on 27th December 1865 at Legaghory, Shankill civil parish. The mother's MN was Kelly.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305311.pdf
John TWEEDY married Margaret KELLY on 6th November 1857 at Magheralin Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1857/09534/5456339.pdf
KG
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Thank you Kiltaglassen,
Yes I am hoping my message to Doylers will get through.
Thank you for the links you posted here and for taking the time to do that.
Much obliged to you, Londonlivin
Hello- a long time later. I am looking for this side of Tweedie with a possible relation.
Would it be possible to ask if you on the DNA?
Thank you
The David Tweedy born December 1865 is definitely mine. His parents were John and Margaret Campbell and he was baptised in Lurgan at Shankill COI This couple went on to have several more children. My great grandmother was Martha Tweedie (married David Hall) I have a theory that John was married previously to Margaret Kelly and that Martha was baptised in Magheralin COI (near Lurgan) born Edenballycoghill near Donaghcloney, Down. I suspect John Tweedies first wife died as there are no further baptisms recorded locally and he re-married prior to 1865 Margaret Campbell. The couple had the following children David 1865 John 1870, Mary 1872 Sarah Jane 1874 and Margaret Anne 1876. I currently live in this area and am happy to chase local records. Ann
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In the meantime here's the link to the birth of a David TWEEDIE on 27th December 1865 at Legaghory, Shankill civil parish. The mother's MN was Kelly.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305311.pdf
John TWEEDY married Margaret KELLY on 6th November 1857 at Magheralin Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1857/09534/5456339.pdf
KG