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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: griffincorp on Friday 20 July 12 06:46 BST (UK)
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Hi, Im new here and looking for some info.
I read some posts by a member named Winston from some time ago in regards to Amelia Heasman, Peter Dehon and their children...looking for anyone who can lead me in the right direction
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The only Reference I could spot was here: (Australian Marriages)
Louis George Dehon, son of Peter & Amelia
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,259529.msg1640810.html#msg1640810
Which direction were you hoping to make headway in?
Pauline
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Hello griffincorp.
I have looked through the RootsChat forum but can't find the posts you refer to. There is a member with a username "winston" listed but she has not posted on here for a while. Do you wish to contact her. If so go to this post by "winston" (which is about another subject) and on the left you will see that you can either send her a private message by clicking on the green scroll icon or send her an email by clicking on the email icon. The email might be best.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,435153.0.html
Hers is the 5th post down the page.
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PM's are verboten until 3 postings have been made.
the username for the thread was wjeffrey76. (signed with the name Winston) which is where the confusion arose.
The OP needs to contact wjeffrey76 when able.
If you can expand on your search parameters, we can assist.
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Oops sorry, bad advice.
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Thanks everyone. Ive had it confirmed William Dehon is the son of Peter Dehon and Amelia Heasman. Im also looking for connections to the Jones and Stewart families of NSW and more intel on one of William Dehons wives Annie Thomas/ Lang/Bott/Dehon
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Hi
My great great grandfather was Joseph Bott and he was married to Annie Thomas/Lang/Bott/ Dehon. I am descended through their daughter Madelaine Annie Bott. I am happy to share what little information I have with you If you send me your email I can scan what I do have in and send to you.
Cheers Leeanne
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Annie Thomas was born in ???? Castlemaine Victoria to Henry Thomas and Mary Taylor in about 1859.At some stage she came to NSW where she had Edward T Thomas and Florence Thomas there is no record of a marriage or a father for these two children.In 1883 she married William Lang in Sydney and had three children to him,Sarah 1884 and William 1886 and James in 1888,William Lang snr died in 1888 and in 1889 Annie married Joseph Bott.Joseph and Annie had six children Mary AJ in 1890 Madeline Annie in 1892 Henry in 1894 Myrtle in 1896 Joseph in 1898 and Benjamin in 1900.Annie once again found herself a widow when Joseph died in 1900. She then married William Dehon and had a further two children.Daniel in1904and John in 1906.Annie died on 11.08.1923 from Parkinson's Disease at The Cedars Private Hospital Ashfield.
I have a couple of certificates I am happy to share with you
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Hello all,
I just wanted to introduce myself as a relative connected through Katherine Dehon b1881. I have some certificates and information I am prepared to share incl. some New Zealand certifictes re. the Dehons.
Hope all is well with all.
Kind Regards,
Lee
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Hello Lee
Just interested to know whether you may have the death certificate for Katherine's mother, Amelia DEHON (nee HEASMAN) ?
Amelia remarried in 1897 and died in Sydney in 1934 as Amelia RIDING.
[Amelia HEASMAN / DEHON / RIDING was the younger sister of my gg-g/m Annie (HEASMAN / MORININI / RICHINGS) - the subject of the ultra-long thread as posted above by Pauline in Reply # 1. ;D ]
Cheers
~ Lu
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Hi Lu,
I have read that post of the last couple of days with a great interest ! Seems like you guys did a great job to trace every avenue, incl. quite a few twists and turns :)
I've attached Amelia's death transcription, 'I've had to compress the image to comply with the 500kb limit of rootschat. But I've got quite a few others I'm happy to share too.
I've also attached Amelia's marriage transcription with Simeon Riding. Interestingly in this document it lists her middle name as Nesiah. Have you come across this before ? It's the first time I've seen that middle name mentioned on any of her documents and obviously absent from her death cert.
Lee
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Hi Lee
Very many thanks - most helpful. :) (I managed to note details before images were removed).
Will be back in touch again, tomorrow.
~ Lu
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I'm most disappointed with several of my attachments being removed. Anyways.. Here from you shortly.
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Hello again Lee
My interest in the HEASMAN / AYLMORE family extends far beyond my own line of Annie (largely because they were such a "colourful lot" ;D ) ... and as such I have amassed a good deal of info. on most of them.
Was interested to see which children of Amelia DEHON (RIDING) were listed on her death cert. because some years ago I received data which showed additional children named as Robert and Elizabeth ? Obviously the person (and I can't recall who it was), hadn't at the time of compiling this information, sighted Amelia's d/c. Records (from both sides of the "ditch") don't show up a Robert or Elizabeth.
But there remains the mystery of the child Elizabeth Ann ANDERSON (b. 4 March 1871, at Fitzroy, Vic) who according to her birth cert. was the natural child of Jane Elizabeth ANDERSON (formerly HEASMAN nee AYLMORE) ... supposedly aged 41 years at that time. [Jane Elizabeth wasn't of course born in 1830 ... she was baptised in 1818 ... making her 53 years in 1871 !! ] Anyway, I've always had the feeling that Elizabeth Ann was more likely to have been the child of Amelia (born before she married James BRADLEY - Sept. 1871) ?
Just needed to be satisfied that "an Elizabeth" wasn't one of Amelia's known children, and the information given on her death cert. tends to confirm that. So thanks again for sharing the death cert. details. :)
But there are of course, two children missing from Amelia RIDING's d/c. [See next post. ] >>
~ Lu
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I hope we can attract abit of interest with any of the Heasman lines left :) I note (if it is) Jane Henderson formerly Heasman Nee Aylmore does quite well to marry a 31 year old in Peter Henderson at her age of about 50 ? After reading your posts I didn't think I seen a death for our Jane ? Just that she passed away prior to 1897 ? Can you advance on those numbers ?
Look forward to reading your next post :)
Lee
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Sorry for the interruption, got caught up with other things. :D
1934 Death Cert. - Amelia RIDING
I can understand why Amelia's NZ-born son Philip is missing from her death cert. (b. 1883 - d. 1884 aged 4 months) ... but it's puzzling that eldest son Peter DEHON isn't recorded ? He was married with a number of children and living in Sydney for many years. He died in 1950. [Maybe it was a case of his name being inadvertently left out by whomever entered the details in the death register ? ]
The death informant > A. JONES, 24 Dougherty Street, Mascot > appears to be Arthur Wallace (a.k.a. Alfred) JONES who went on to marry Ellen (a.k.a. Mary Ellen) HARRIS, the daughter of Amelia DEHON (junior). Amelia and her husband Robert Edward HARRIS resided at 16 MacIntosh (McIntosh) Street, Mascot. [Interestingly, the daughter born as Ellen HARRIS to Amelia jnr., had another marriage after A. W. JONES died in 1948. She re-wed as Ellen JONES to an Arthur Neville CHALLENGER, but at her death in 1978 she was known as Mary Ellen (Molly) ?? ]
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Marriage 1897 - Amelia Nesiah DEHON - Simeon RIDING(s)
Reasonable to expect as an older woman marrying a younger man, that Amelia would tweak her age. :D
But as to the addition of "Nesiah", can confirm that she wasn't born with that name. ;)
[Have a copy of her baptism at St. Peters Church in Melbourne - Amelia - d/o William (a carpenter) and Jane HEASMAN - born 18 March 1851 - baptised 6 June 1851. ]
Neither was she born in Hampshire, England and nor was her father William, a musician.
At her first marriage - 20 September 1871, Fitzroy, Vic. to James BRADLEY - she was plain old Amelia HEASMAN - born c. 1852 (age looks like 17 but could have been 19, written badly), she stated she was born "Melbourne, Victoria" and that her father was William HEASMAN (a builder).
Such detail wasn't required to be recorded when she wed Peter DEHON in New Zealand in 1873.
I often wonder whether she altered her identity slightly (in 1897) for fear of that earlier Australian marriage coming back to haunt her ? [She seemed not to have been divorced from BRADLEY and he was apparently still alive when she re-married in NZ. ] ::) ;D
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I hope we can attract abit of interest with any of the Heasman lines left :) I note (if it is) Jane Henderson formerly Heasman Nee Aylmore does quite well to marry a 31 year old in Peter Henderson at her age of about 50 ? After reading your posts I didn't think I seen a death for our Jane ? Just that passed away prior to 1897 ? Can you advance on those numbers ?
Hi
Yes the marriage of Jane Elizabeth HEASMAN (1869) shows her groom's name as Peter "HENDERSON".
[He had signed the register with X (his mark) so there was no signature for comparison. ]
However, when the birth of Elizabeth Ann was registered in March 1871, the surname is clearly ANDERSON ... Father: Peter ANDERSON - with J.E. ANDERSON (mother) being the informant. Additionally in the "Details of Mother" column, is written - Jane Elizabeth Anderson ~ formerly Heasman ~ maiden name Aylmore - 41 years born London.
Further, by September 1871, when Amelia marries BRADLEY, Peter ANDERSON is now able to sign his name - as Peder ANDERSON - and he and Jane Elizabeth ANDERSON (mother) are witnesses to this marriage.
Jane Elizabeth's death has not as yet been found. The last positive link to her (and she's reverted to the name HEASMAN by this time) is as the nurse attending the birth of her grand-daughter ... Amelia DEHON in Sydney, 1877. [And that's a whole other story, so far defying explanation. ] :D
~ Lu
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hi my name is Karen dean/dehon I am new to this I hace read these post and have only just started trying to find out my past my grandfathers name was john albert dean/dehon he had a brother Louis and from what I have found out so far they originated from New Zealand and before that France or Belgium
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Hi Karen,
I have a John Dehon born 7 June 1887 in New Zealand who was a sibling to my Great Great Grandmother Katherine Dehon born, 5 Oct 1881.
Kind regards,
Lee
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Hi Karen
... welcome to RootsChat. :)
Is the John Albert DEAN / DEHON you mention, the same person who was known (in Australia) as Jack DEAN ??
~ Lu
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... and did this Jack DEAN have a wife named Lily ?
~ Lu
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Hi Lucy 2 thankyou I did have an uncle jack dean whom lived in Mascot sydney
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Hi Karen
... thanks for your PM. Will reply to you shortly once I have sifted through some papers. ;)
Cheers
~ Lu
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Hi Lucy Thankyou for your reply just to clear up what I posted yes john albert dean/Dehon was known as jack and his wifes name was Lillian Dehon nee Barker
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Cheers Karen ... will be in touch soon. :)
~ Lu
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Thanks Karen, always interesting to read as much as possible on the Dehon line.
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there is no rush ! I have had so much help just from a few posts on here I am absolutely floored a lovely lady called Laurie actually rang me from New Zealand yesterday I cannot believe the help and kindness I only hope I can pay it all forward
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I spoke to Laurie as well, nicest lady :-) And knows her stuff..
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Researchers, George Dehon found wondering the streets travelling from NZ. Please see attached newspaper article.
Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931), Thursday 7 January 1897, page 6
Any thoughts ? I don't recall a George Dehon. Anyone able to assist ?
Happy Easter :)
Lee
PS sorry attachment won't work.. See the link,
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/108863773?searchTerm=%22Dehon%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd|||frommm|||fromyyyy|||todd|||tomm|||toyyyy|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby
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Hi again Lee
Pretty sure I can help with this ... just need to dig out my DEHON file. Back soon. ;)
~ Lu
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Hi Lu, thanks so much :)
I thought with Anzac Day approaching, I would post a photograph of, Edward Vincent Dehon b.1913 unfortunately passing away at the age of 27 on service in 1941 in Syria.
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Hi there,
Edwin Vincent DEHON, born 25 Oct 1913, NX56871, father as next of kin, Peter Dehon, 167 Windsor St, Paddington. Two photos for Edwin are available at the free to search NAA website, under Edwin (not Edward) Vincent DEHON as part of his WWII service records. http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
Commonwealth War Graves Commission has Edwin as son of Peter and Ann Jane DEHON.
Edwin Vincent DEHON, Royal Australian Engineers, AIF 2/15 Field Coy.
H30 Damascus Commonwealth War Cemetery.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2937215/DEHON,%20EDWIN%20VINCENT
WWII nominal roll Certificate
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/VeteranCertificate.aspx?VeteranID=174108
LEST WE FORGET
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Thanks Majm,
Some great stuff on NAA website..
In deed LEST WE FORGET !!
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Hi again Lee
Mmm yes ... "George" DEHON - otherwise known as Louis George / George Louis / George Lewis / DEHON. ;)
Born Hokitika, New Zealand, 30 August 1880 - his birth registration only records the forename, "Louis".
Have only ever found NZ baptisms for siblings Katherine, (shown as Catherine - bapt. 12 January 1883), Peter, and Amelia - Roman Catholic Parish of Hokitika-Ross, so can't be sure when the name "George" was added.
He was though certainly known as Louis George DEHON by 1892 when bundled off to the Burnham Industrial School in Christchurch, Canterbury. ::)
Here's the link to the article >
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"West Coast Times" - 25 November 1892
.... A little waif named Louis George DEHON, aged 12 ....
~ Lu see next >
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Interesting ? ;D
On his voyage to Sydney by the "Talune" (arrived 7 January 1897), I see he is listed as a "Mr G. DEHON", a steerage passenger.
It seems that his visit was a short one. :D
On the NZ Immigration Passenger Lists (at FamilySearch), there is a "Mastr. (Master) DEHON" - listed as a child between 1 & 14 years - described as being of "French" origin, - on the return voyage of the "Talune" to NZ ports. Master DEHON's destination was Lyttelton in Canterbury province (- the same area in which the Burnham Industrial school was located). After calling at various NZ ports, the "Talune" reached Lyttelton about 16 January (1897).
Ideally, (and all going well), Louis George was due for release from the Industrial school age at 15 (c. 1895). It maybe though that he was "apprenticed" or "bonded" to an employer in Christchurch ? Perhaps he did a "runner" from NZ ?? (not unusual for anyone related to clan HEASMAN ;D). After all he did use the name "George" ... and he was back in Sydney the following year masquerading as "Louis" DEHON.
Looks like he may have returned to NZ again, later. Paperspast has two items - "Grey River Argus" (Westland) - 6 February 1902, notice of unclaimed letters from places beyond the Colony, held at Greymouth Post Office - for G. Louis DEHON ... and, "Evening Post" (Wellington) - 7 July 1903 - page 4, where a claim for wages was made to the Court, Louis DEHON v. Patrick DWYER (with judgment in favour of the defendant).
There was never a dull moment with this lot, was there ? :D
~ Lu
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hi everyone - especially those to whom I might be related.
I am also descended from a Dehon - John born in about 1885 in Hokitika, New Zealand. He moved to Australia and eventually changed his name to Jack Dean - apparently to stop his association with Louis George Dehon I have heard. My grandmother wasn't married to Dehon - as he had a wife and several other children apart from his 2 with Mum and her younger brother. I've been working on the family tree for years and only recently discovered the association. They all lived (happily?) together at 31 White Street Leichhardt NSW at around the same time, and there are several Dehons listed at that address if you are missing any key evidence. (found in census and street directories of the 1920-30s). good luck in your searches - i'd love to hear from any you if you have more info - especially photographs which i haven't been able to trace as yet.
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Hello All
I've read this thread with interest - what an interesting lot of people. I've been trying to muddle through the De Hon and Heasman families with a lot of roadblocks. It doesn't help that people change names or adjust their ages!!
Has anyone found either a divorce or annulment of the marriage between Amelia Heasman and James Bradley - or did she just run away and forget about it?? Her marriage record to Peter doesn't shed much light! I'm really puzzled as to how she got to New Zealand - does anyone have any clues? And then what brought her to Sydney after Peter De Hon's death and again under what circumstances?
I note in the thread that Amelia's mother looks to have remarried but I still haven't found any details of William Heasman's death other than note of it on Amelia's 1st marriage cert.
My connection to this family is via John De Hon/Dean so if anyone has any info that they wouldn't mind sharing would be most appreciated - I'm especially hoping for a photograph
happy researching
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Good evening, I don’t have much information to help you. But were you able to find any of the answers you were seeking ? I know this family had some twist and turns along the way.
Lee