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I have access to an index of Settlement Certificates and Removal Orders 1696 - 1863 if anyone wants a look up.
Carol
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Again Please Carol, any Antcliffe all varients. Many thanks.
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Hi again
A few of those
ANCLIFFE John his wife & family SC from Norwell to Newark 1762
ANCLIFFE Joseph, Ann his wife & children Francis & Joseph SC North Collingham to Newark 1783
ANCLIFFE Mary (pregnant) SC from Osslington to Norwell 1822
ANCLIFF Henry & wife Sarah SC Norwell to Holme 1834
Hope some belong to you cos they are not mine.
Carol
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Henry and wife Sarah are in my tree although only connected through a marriage.
Henry born 1811 Norwell married Sarah Sands 24 June 1833 in Holme by Newark, they had 10 children.
The rest are as far as I can tell , not mine. Thankyou for the look up.
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I think I remember you told me yours are from East Markham?? So are mine, my 9x great grandparents Robert Ancliff and Alice Barnwell married there on 27 Nov 1610. They had 4 sons 3 stayed in the area and one Ellis went to Edwinstowe.
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Hi
Yes that's right, mine are from East Markham. 7 x gt grandparents were Luke Antcliff & Elinor Jackson. He is one of my many brickwalls.
Carol
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ok Carol, I have him in my tree notes....I have a "work in progress tree" so I do not have a baptism for him though. The East Markham baptisms are not complete.As you know. I will let you into the way my mind works, a scary thing according to my husband!! ::)
I will try and explain why Luke is attached to my tree where I have put him...
Robert A and Alice had 4 sons
Edward baptised 30 Sep 1611
Robert bapt 23 Jan 1614 buried 11 Feb 1614
Thomas bap 23 Apr 1615 buried 5 Feb 1668
Ellis bap 30 Nov 1618 buried 11 Aug 1679 in Edwinstowe.
Edward vanishes, although there is a possible marriage in the next village of Askham for an Edward who is of an age to be a son of this Edward.
Ellis is paying the hearth tax in Edwinstowe 1664/1674 and his 9 children are all baptised there, apart from the eldest who is born in Newark because of the "warr" this is in the Edwinstowe register.
Thomas is in East Markham, he took the protestation oath in 1641/2 and was a resident.
He married Kathrine Carr in EM 14 Jan 1640/1 and had 4 sons.
Thomas bapt 28 Oct 1641.
Francis born and died 1642
John bapt 28 apr 1645 buried Laneham 26 Jun 1711, he was paying hearth tax in Laneham in 1689, and all his 7 children were baptised there.(Mine)
Peter bapt 21 Feb 1646/7 vanished...
John is my 7x great. 7 children baptised No Luke.
Thomas married 30 Jul 1664 in East Retford to Elizabeth Stanniland, I have 3 sons for them.
Thomas was on the hearth tax 1664/1674.
Luke born C 1661
Francis BC 1663
Henry baptised 15 Jan 1665 EM.
Now this Thomas and his 3 sons were the only An(t)(c)liff(e) family in East Markham at this time. descended through Robert.
Mine had moved on to Laneham, although they do come back here later on.
I then have Luke married to Elinor Jackson 22 Nov 1683.
Just to complicate things little ;D
Robert had a brother Luke born C 1590 and buried 14 May 1659, this Luke married Mary Moss in EM 5 Oct 1617 and they had 4 sons and 1 daughter.
One son was yet another Luke baptised 8 May 1625......I have not followed him at all, but he is a little old to be the Luke marrying in 1683.But he could have been the father of another Luke who did marry then.
If you can make head or tail of this do get back to me...
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Thanks very much for all that information. I haven't read it all yet. but will print if off and study over the weekend.
Thanks again
Carol
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Do you have any Antill names? We have a few of them in Nottingham, but they are mainly a Leicestershire family. We have some removal orders for them in Leicestershire in 1766 and 1816.
mareanna
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Hi Mareanna
Nothing in the index I have for Nottingham. I noticed you are researching Antill's of Mountsorrel and found these on one of my Leicestershire disc's
Henry, Elizabeth, Sarah, Thomas & William Antill Removal Order dated 1829 from Mountsorrel to Nottingham St Mary ref 1250/46/16
Carol
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Mareanna, there are a fair few Antills in Nottingham on the NFHS cd, baptisms marriage and burials. If you would like a look up of anyone let me know.
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Hi Larkspur
Thanks, I've got the NFHS CD (not the very latest one tho). Just curious if they'd been up to their same tricks in Notts as they were in Leics being moved on
mareanna
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So have your read my reply and was it any help !!!
Carol
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Sorry, I'm OK - got what I can from NFHS databases
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I'm mean the settlement information I gave you
Carol
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Oops - it's been a long day :-[
It could be William and Sarah (Leeming). In 1829 their children would have been Thomas, Elizabeth and Henry. William was from Mountsorrel, Sarah from Nottingham. They married in Nottingham and died there.
Thank you very much
mareanna
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Hi Carol
Do you have anything in Settlement or removal orders for Pownall. I have quite a bit of info about William Pownall whose parish was given as Lambley, when he was in the workhouse but he had previously been living in Nottingham. Thanks Sheila
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Hi sstain
Welcome to Rootschat.
I can't see anything for Pownall's in the Settlement / RO list that I have. Sorry
You didn't mention any dates in your message. There may be details on the Notts FHS CD if you give more information.
Carol
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hi Carol
I have lots of info on my Pownalls which ranges from about 1785 to date. William Pownall was born in 1801 in Twerton St Michaels near Bath but then his family moved to the Nottingham area. He was in the Basford workhouse in 1844 with his children after his wife had died and they said his parish was Lambley. He married in Calverton in 1825. He was a frame work knitter. I have him on all of the census until he died in Basford Workhouse in 1871. Thanks
Sheila
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Just in case you do not have this.
Marriage St Wilfrid Calverton
18-9-1825 William Pownall and Maria Chappell.
Burials St Mary Nottingham
30-8-1835 Maria POWNAL age 3m abode Back Common
31-1-1841 Maria POWNELL age 34 abode Virginia St
Bulwell, St Mary the Virgin and all Souls
25-3-1871 William POWNELL age 70 abode Basford Union.
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baptisms for children of William and Maria, father a FWK
Calverton, 20-12-1825 John POWNALL abode Calverton.
Nottm. St Mary,24-4-1831 Hannah POWNEL abode Bellar Gate.
Lowdham, 26-4-1833 William POWNALL abode Gunthorpe
Nottm St Mary, 7-7-1835 Maria POWNALL abode York St.
Then there are these..parents William & Maria father a FWK.
Nottm. St Mary 12-2-1837 Lucy POUNDEL abode Back Common.
Calverton, 11-11-1827 Charles POUNDER abode Calverton
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Hi Carol by any chance do you have any by the name of Marston on your lists, Moving from Notts to Queniborough and vice versa ? thankyou. kind regards Sue
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Hi Sue
Nothing I'm afraid. I have also checked some Leicester Settlement / RO's.
I do have some Queniborough burials 1855 - 1895 if that's any good to you.
Carol
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Thankyou very much for looking Carol , I appreciate it. I would like the burials please there might be some connection, thankyou. kind regards Sue
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Ann Marston -12 May 1876 aged 76
Hannah -5 March 1860 aged 29
Elizabeth -6 March 1885 aged 85
John -16 May 1895 aged 71
Susan -26 March 1895 aged 75
Thomas -3 Jan 1858 aged 68
Thomas -4 Dec 1884 aged 64
William -24 July 1892 aged 77
William -31 Jan 1855 aged 74
All gives their abode as Queniborough
Carol
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Thankyou very much indeed Carol , I will see if they connect with mine. kind regards Sue
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Hello again Carol (don't run off screaming)
Hate to show my ignorance, but what kind of people do these settlement certs apply to ?
Yours up a gumtree as usual ;)
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Hello again
You are better to take a look at some websites that can certainly explain it better than I can.
If you do a google for Settlement Certificates / Removal Orders there are a lot of sites that come up.
http://www.genguide.co.uk/source/settlement-certificatesexaminations-and-removal-orders-parish-poor-law/173/
Carol
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Oh, thanks a lot, Carol. Would it be possible that immigrants like the dreaded Lyon Asher would be included ? Are there any Ashers for Notts/Leics ?
If there are a lot, ignore them...the period I'm interested in for his arrival would be 1780-1820.
Thank you very much
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Hi
I can only see 3
Francis Asher & his wife from Flintham to Cropwell Bishop, Settlement Certificate 1793
Ann Asher, spinster, from St Mary's Notts, to Ruddington Removal Order 1815
William Asher, wife & family from Kirklington to Syerston Settlement Certificate 1740
Carol
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Thanks a lot....very much appreciated
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Hi Carol
Sorry for delay but I wasn't notified that there had been a reply. I'm afraid that you didn't answer my query about the Pownall's in the earlier thread, is it possible for you to check for me.
Thanks Larkspur but I already have all of the information from the parish records.
Sheilahi Carol
I have lots of info on my Pownalls which ranges from about 1785 to date. William Pownall was born in 1801 in Twerton St Michaels near Bath but then his family moved to the Nottingham area. He was in the Basford workhouse in 1844 with his children after his wife had died and they said his parish was Lambley. He married in Calverton in 1825. He was a frame work knitter. I have him on all of the census until he died in Basford Workhouse in 1871. Thanks
Sheila
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Hi Sheila
I did reply to your request to look at the Settlement / Removal orders for Pownall's
2nd page, last reply.
Carol
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Hi Carol
Sorry about asking you to look again. I think something bizarre happened. Firstly I wasn't notified that you had replied and secondly that there were only the responses to my query from Larkspurr when I looked.
Apologies again and thanks for checking.
Sheila
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Hi Carol
Could you check if there are any LEGG/LEGGE entries for Nottingham, please? They were West Country migrants pre-1841 and their notoriety would probably have given just cause for examination, if not removal! ::)
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Hi Dee-jay
Sorry I can't see any Legg / Legge names in my book of SC & RO
:'(
Carol
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Thanks, Carol, for the rapid response.
dee-jay
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Hi Carol,
Could you see if there is any Tuckwood family's in you Settlement and Removel book in Nottingham please. I'm helping someone.
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
Sorry nothing for Tuckwood. I also checked the Freeman's of Nottingham list.
Regards
Carol
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Ok Thanks Carol.
Wendy
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Hi Carol,
Would it be possible to see if there are any Hough/Hoff families in your settlement and removal orders please?
Regards Kelly
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Hi Kelly
I can only see two
Mary Hough SC from St Mary's Nottingham to Mansfield 1737
William Hough SC from St Nicholas Nottingham to Mansfield 1742/43
Carol
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Hi Carol
Thank you for the look up it is truly appreciated.
Kind regards
Kelly
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Hi Sunflower
can you see if there are any Warburtons in your settlement cert/removal orders, thanks
Glyn
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Sorry Glyn, Nothing for that name
Carol
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Thanks Carol
it was worth a try
Glyn
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Hello Carol, could you please have a look if you have any Whitworth families, very much appreciated.
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Hi Larkspur
You're in luck, there are a few
Edward Whitworth, wife & Children SC from Laxton to Newark 1771
Sarah Whitworth of Rufford, pregnant SC Rufford to Eaking 1769 - living in at Eaking
William Whitworth SC from Scarcliffe, Derby to Easking 1772
James Whitworth servant in husbandry, born at Eaking. SX at Eakring 1833
George Whitworth SC Bevercotes to Mansfield 1788
Ann Whitworth widow SX at Mansfield 1840
Sarah Whitworth, pregnant RO from Heath, Derby to Mansfield 1802
Jane Whitworth RO from St Marys, Notts to Mansfield. - with letter from Notts overseers
John Whitworth, Lab, RO from Mansfield to Hucknall 1755
William Witworth, born at Walesby, hired at Wardop, Dunham, then Walesby now living at Cropwell Butler, parish of Tithby. SX Tithby 1806
Hope they fit in somewhere
Carol
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Carol Those Whitworths help me as well Thanks.
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Carol you are a star, many thanks.
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I have access to an index of Settlement Certificates and Removal Orders 1696 - 1863 if anyone wants a look up.
Carol
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Vowgirl
What name are you looking for ?
Carol
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Carol Those Whitworths help me as well Thanks.
Ok---Fess up Jaywit....who and when. Mine are Eakring :o
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Vowgirl
What name are you looking for ?
Carol
Thanks Carol sorry about the first one could you please look up Thomas Higgins
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Sorry nothing for a Thomas Higgins
Carol
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Thankyou Carol for looking
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Hi I have found on Find My Past a removal order for Ann Weldon Oct 1827 being removed from Nottingham St Mary's to Sleaford in Lincolnshire- singlewoman pregnant. Could you tell me if there are any more details about her in the Nottinghamshire records, perhaps a settlement examination. I am not convinced that her maiden name was Weldon. She may have also had two other children, perhaps Harriet and Joseph.
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Hi
I've checked my Nottingham list, but can't see anything for that name - Sorry
Carol
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Hello Carol,
Just wondering if you have anything on William Grant who turned up in Babworth Notts sometime before 1795 when his son William was born there. I have a copy of the Settlement certificate for his father Michael Grant who was born in Chinley Derbyshire and given the settlement certificate to live in Walton Derbyshire where his father, also a William Grant was born. The Certificate says that his father was a certificate man to Chinley having been born in Whalton.
Michael's son William must have left Walton before 1793 as he got married that year on the way at Anston, Yorks - possibly following the new Chesterfield Canal to Ranby Babworth.
Regards Malcolm
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Thank you, Carol. Great service :)
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Hi Malcolm
This is the only one I could find
William Grant and wife Ann - Settlement Cert from Barkstone to Newark 1777
Carol
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Thank you Carol. Not at all sure who this William Grant could be, but every piece is a help eventually. Now I'm curious to see if I can see where he could fit in. Whilst Grant is a fairly common name elsewhere especially north of the Border, there were hardly any at all in Notts in the 1642 protestation returns. My Scottish Clans book tells me though that they more or less started off in Nottinghamshire - William Le Grand held property in Notts but also at Stratherrick in the Highlands in 1246.
Most of the current Nottinghamshire Grants came in from Derbyshire mainly from the Peak District - Hope and also Chapel-en-le-Frith which is where the earliest Grants I can find were in 1687. Another descendant from the same William Grant from Chinley/Walton had his ydna compared on the Grant dna pages and it came up close to an Edinburgh Grant.
Thanks again, Malcolm
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I just dug a little deeper and found this page - https://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/grant-01.html Fancy that then, it seems that Grantham was named after the family as was the River Grant which is now the Cam running through Cambridge. But more of a coincidence is that Barkstone whence cameth the William Grant you found, Carol, is very close to Grantham.
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Hi Carol
Can you see anything for 'Parr', 'Fox' or 'Garner' please?
Many thanks
TB
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Hi Nick
Hope you are well.
Parr James, Tanner and his family - Settlement certificate from Stanground Hunts to Newark 1728/9
Parr William and Ann his wife - SC from Bingham to Newark 1785
Parr William, Hairdresser - SC from St Marys Notts to Newark 1787
Parr John, wife Ann and Children Mary aged 2 and Sarah 16 weeks- Settlement Examination at East Bridgford 1814
Pare William, his wife and daughter - SC from Bingham to Cropwell Bishop 1753
Garner William, Mary his wife and son John - SC from Rempstone to East Leake 1712
Can we narrow the Fox's down a bit as there are too many to type.
Carol
(Still no luck with the Suttleworths)
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Thanks for that Carol
I will have to look into those Parrs!
In respect of Fox’s I would probably be looking between the 1820’s and 1850’s please.
Thanks in advance.
TB
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Sorry I can't see any Fox's between those dates.
Thanks for the email. I will blow the cobwebs off my Shuttleworth/Stodd file and get back to you.
Carol
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Thanks for looking.
TB
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Hello Carol, please could you have a look for Raworth ( Rayworth, Rauworth etc). Eakring and North Collingham. I am wondering why old Thomas baptised his child twice. Many thanks.
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Hi Carol,
Could I please ask you to check whether there is a John Robson and/or Robert Robson in the indices for settlement certificates. My gt.gt.grandfather John Robson who was a Coal Miner born Coal Fell (1881 census) or Hartley Burn (1871 census) Cumberland, first turned up in Elsdon, Northumberland when he married Jane Proudlock. There is no sign of him in 1851, Jane being on her own with two of their daughters, and then in 1861 they are all together at Throckley near Newburn, Northumberland.
I have a note that on his marriage he named his father as Robert Robson, Pitman.
Thank You, Malcolm
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Any Paulson Dawn or Dunnell/Dunnill/Dunhill please??
Thanks for the offer!! 🌺🌺
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Will have a look later for you all.
Carol
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Thanks Carol, that's very good of you!
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Hi Larkspur
Here are yours
Ann Raworth (S) Pregnant - SC from Sutton in Ashfield to Eakring 1807
Mary Raworth (S) Pregnant - SC from Sutton in Ashfield to Eakring 1831
John Raworth (shoemaker) born Eaking - SX at Eakring 1800
Samuel Raworth born Eakring - SX at Eakring 1800
John Roworth (no order) copy notice and SX only - RO from Mansfield to Norton 1839
William Raworth his wife and family - SC from Mansfield to Mansfield Woodhouse 1726
John Roworth - RO from Wimeswould to Sutton Bonnington 1835
Hope this helps
Carol
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Hi Malcolm
Sorry no luck with your Robsons
Carol
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Hi Jaybelnz
Here's a few for you
Sarah Paulson (s) - RO from St Mary's Notts to Mansfield 1819
Charles Paulson FWK - SX at Mansfield Woodhouse 1816
Henry Paulston Lab, his wife and family - SC from Prestwold Leics to Rempstone 1726
Judah Pawson ,wife of William Pawson now a soldier and children Mary, William an John -SC from
Halam to Newark 1758
John Polson his wife and family - SC East Stoke to Newark 1790
John Polson, carpenter, Elizabeth his wife and dau Mary - SC East Stoke to Newark
Ann Pawson, pregnant - SC Ossington to Laxton 1815
Nothing for the other names I'm afraid
Carol
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Wow Carol, thank you so much, lovely to wake up to! I appreciate your kindness! 🌺🌺
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Hi Malcolm
Sorry no luck with your Robsons
Carol
Thank you Carol for looking.
Malcolm
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Many thanks for the Raworth family, much appreciated.
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Hi Carol
I notice it is a while since this thread was active, but I wondered if you would mind seeing if there are any Beestons. In particular I am looking for a Francis Beeston who was resident in Welbeck when he applied for his marriage licence in 1750.
Many thanks
Jos
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Hi Jos
I can't see anything for Francis I'm afraid. There are a few Beestons around that time but not for Welbeck
Thomas Beeson Elizabeth his wife and family SC from East Leake to Ruddington 1782
John Beeston his wife and family SC from Screveton to Shelford 1766
Samuel Beeson SC from Kingston on Soar to Sutton Bonnington 1785
Carol
Edit - There is a Francis Beeston baptised 13.12.1734 at Worksop to Francis Beeston at Worksop
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Hi Carol
Thanks for that.
I did spot the Francis Beeston baptised in 1734, but it isn't marked as an an older child being baptised and it seems a little young for someone to apply for a marriage licence and marry at 15 to a woman of 22 in Matlock.
I presume that the Elizabeth Beeston buried in Worksop in 1772 was his wife, but I have found no burial for him I can be sure of.
Thanks again for your help
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Hi Carol -
Would you be able to look up Matthew Johnson/Thomas Smith Johnson/Scoffin(g)s?
Thank you so much
TreeGirl:-)
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I will have a look for you.
Is the surname Johnson ? What is the Scoffins
Carol
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I will have a look for you.
Is the surname Johnson ? What is the Scoffins
Carol
Thank you so much!
Matthew Johnson based in Newark
Thomas Smith Johnson, known by both surnames until he dropped the Johnson and was known as Thomas Smith. Moved from Newark to Derby, but I wondered if it was due to a RO
Scoffins based out of Whatton - various first names
TreeGirl:-)
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I can't see anything for your Johnson / smith but there are a couple of Scoffings
Thomas Scoffing SC from Bingham to Mansfield 1789
Thomas Scoffins, Esther his wife and children Christopher, Mary, Esther, Thomas & George
SC from Bingham to Newark 1790
Carol
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Thanks for looking!
TreeGirl:-)
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HI Sunflower, I don’t know why it’s taken me so long to spot this post! Thank you for your offer!
Do you have any DYERs in your list? Sometimes spelled DYAR.
Also, any sign of a Joseph KILNER in the 1840s, 50s or 60s? This seems a straightforward name but it was obviously unfamiliar to Notts and Leic ears so I’ve found loads of alternative spellings, eg Killner, Kelner, Killiner, Kilney, Kelney.
Many thanks!
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Hi Annie
Sorry but none of those names are in the books
Carol
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Ok, thanks for looking