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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: davidpaul on Tuesday 24 July 12 21:54 BST (UK)
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hi their lookin for any information on john Yates antiques shop in stirling around the 1920s and 30s .this would of been my grt uncles shop ,would like to know where in stirling it was and wonder if any rootschatters have any old pics of this shop many thanks davidpaul.
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Index for Stirling Observer Annual for 1950 shows entry for John Yates' death in 1950, so presumably there was obituary printed which probably included details of where his business was. Perhaps someone going to Stirling Library could have a peek. (in annual index entry is shown as being on p10)
Sandy
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cheers sandymcj the thing is i live in newcastle and would be hard to get to stirling maybe sum one may have look for me if am lucky have herd from family that this shop was past on to his son Alfred Yates ,many thanks for the info tho davidpaul
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Afraid I don't live there any more either! As business carried on after John Yates' death, I had a look in 1960's phone books on ancestry. Business is listed at 5 Bank St which is a short st between Baker st and Spitall St in Stirling. plugging 5 Bank st into Google it comes up as a listed building. If you look here there's a link to google earth and you can see what it looks like today
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-41227-5-bank-street-and-52-spittal-street-
cheers
Sandy
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cheers sandymcj.
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Alfie Yates shop in Bank Street, I can remember it well.
It is now a coffee shop, and was on the corner of Spittal Street and Bank Street.
I must have a pic of that corner somewhere in my Stirling Collection, I'll have a look.
A large window on the Spittal Street side, and a little door on the Bank street side.
The Yates's lived in a big house in St John's Street up the road from the shop, the area was called Shirra's Green and I can remember it quite well, there are houseS standing there now, right opposite the Old High School entrance in Academy road.
I'm trying to remember a family they were related to, I think it was Illingworth, yes I'm sure it was.
I'm away for a few days as from today, I'll have a better look for a pic when I get back.
Stewart
(I've just found an old pic, the house is on the left hand side, a bit different today)
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what a result thanks stewart am looking forward to chatting to you when you get back Alfie Yates was my grannies cousin she was called Nellie boga and her brother lived up their he was called Alfie boag thanks again stewart . still have family up their that i still see who where illingworth Mary illingworth married to a Jim MC culloch .davidpaul
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What a find!
This photograph shows the Illingworth shop at 82 Baker Street. It has to have been taken in 1938 as can be shown with the posters on the gable end of the building.
I've also traced some pics of the Illingworth shop in St.Mary's Wynd, which were taken in the early 1920's. I'll post them next.
I'm unable to find any better of the Yates shop at the moment, and I'm surprised I can't find a pic of the Blewitt shop, but I'll keep looking.
Stewart
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Now I really like this pic, it is taken from Broad Street facing St. Mary's Wynd, it is supposed that it was taken in the early 1920's. If you look at the sign at the right hand side, it says Illingworth's Saleroom.
I have another taken at the same time, from a different angle, showing the corner of Broad Street, and you can make out the shop front.
Look carefully and there is an old biddy at the shop, wouldn't it be something if she was one of your relatives!
cheers Stewart
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many many thanks stirling76 just got lots of pics of family in stirling the only pics i need know are one s of the bullochs up their hopefully you ll come up with something cheers stewart.
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(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/38fergie/Roots%20Chat/BankStreet.jpg)I could be wrong , but......
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thanks for the pic fergie .when do you think this was taken as think they first opened this shop around late 1890s thanks David.
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My uncle Alfie Yates shop.
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Hi there,
You wouldn't happen to know if John Yates had a personal collection of antiques/millitaria?
I'm researching an object in a museum. It was part of a 'John Yates Collection' and entered the museum in July 1951. Given that old Mr Yates died in October 1950 I thought it could potentially have been a legacy.
I have absolutely no proof that the John Yates I am looking for is the one connected to Stirling - but you can't beat a bit of circumstantial evidence...
Hope to hear from you soon.
Kind Regards,
Windsor87
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Theirs a strong possibility that j Yates is your man.what I do know is that Edinburgh musem holds certain items he found.
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I have lots of information j.yates if that helps ,also would be very interested in what you have found regards David.
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I have lots of information j.yates if that helps ,also would be very interested in what you have found regards David.
Essentially I'm doing an object study for a gorget which was noted as coming from the "John Yates valuable collection of Scottish antiquities".
The object was in the estate of a notable Aberdeenshire family until probably at least 1917, when around about that date the estate was wound up (although no date is available). The John Yates collection had two objects which we know must have come from the estate so possibly picked up at the same sale/auction in the 1920s.
The object entered the Museum through an Aberdonian collector who seems to make clear when depositing the item that it is not necessarily his, but part of the so called John Yates collection.
Would be interested to know if you knew what the Yates of Stirling collected/sold, and which items they may have donated to museums in the past.
I think that the object I am dealing with is somewhat fake. The good news is that it wasn't faked by Yates, I think the originally family - at the very least - have wrongly attributed some provenance to it - probably in error.
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My great uncle and aunt Alfred and Fairly née Kinnaird Yates lived in knockhill house, anyone know of them
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John yates and sons Alfred sold antiques they allso donated artifacts to the smiths museum Stirling allso sold various antiques to I F grant from the highland folk museum when miss grant retires a taffy Davison takes over the museum John yates had collection in a Aberdeen museum I have all listed articles donated sold and collections for yates and sons.