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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: RebeccaNZ on Sunday 29 July 12 05:27 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out more information about John Browning TURNER, born about 1815 around Chichester, Sussex.
He married Jane ATKINS from North Mundham, West Sussex. They married 1838, Adelaide, South Australia. He died August 1855, South Australia.
I am trying to find out more about him and where he really originated from. Jane ATKINS has been quite easy to trace but John has been harder. I am not sure where the name Browning comes from but it is a part of his first name as far as I can tell.
Rebecca :)
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Turner is a popular Sussex name but there appears to be only one John TURNER Baptised in Chichester in 1815 (17-Dec). Do any of the other details of his parents or profession dovetail with your other research? Parents John & Mary, Occupation Chair Maker.
A submitter to the Geni Website gives him a slightly different birth year to 1815 saying he was born in Chichester 1818 and died August 18, 1855 (37) Adelaide, South Australia. Husband of Jane, father of Mary Hards.
Another website also gives the 1818 birth year adding that they think he was born in Fishbourne near Chichester, and that there were other children of his marriage with Jane Atkins
Roy G
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Turner is a popular Sussex name but there appears to be only one John TURNER Baptised in Chichester in 1815 (17-Dec). Do any of the other details of his parents or profession dovetail with your other research? Parents John & Mary, Occupation Chair Maker.
A submitter to the Geni Website gives him a slightly different birth year to 1815 saying he was born Chichester 1818 and died August 18, 1855 (37) Adelaide, South Australia. Husband of Jane Turner, Father of Mary Hards.
Roy G
Thanks :) That could be him. I don't really have much information about him other than his marriage to Jane Atkins. These are the children that they had born in South Australia - Mary Jane 1841, Elizabeth 1843, William Henry 1845, Kendrick Alfred 1848, Ellen 1850, Henry Augustus 1853, Amy 1855. I just checked his death cert and it states that he was born 1820 - so your birth record is a close match :)
You are right, there are lots of Turner's in Sussex, there is another John Turner born 1816 in Warnham to Henry and Charlotte Turner. I know he came from Sussex and from family I have heard it was around Chichester and Fishbourne. I don't know where to go from here. It get's confusing when people emigrate because you can't track them through the census
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Have you found him on a passenger list to Oz, either going willingly or as a conscript? Him marrying someone from Mundham close to where he came from suggests they may have travelled out together. So you may find them on the same ship out, but him with a name that has been transcribed and then indexed incorrectly. He may even be recorded as a Browning! Roy G
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The use of Browning and later of Kendrick suggests these may be names of ancestors. Worth looking for marriages with those names? I take it his death cert does not give his parents' names?
Andrea
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Have you found him on a passenger list to Oz, either going willingly or as a conscript? Him marrying someone from Mundham close to where he came from suggests they may have travelled out together. So you may find them on the same ship out, but him with a name that has been transcribed and then indexed incorrectly. He may even be recorded as a Browning! Roy G
No, I haven't been able to find either of them - I think it's likely that they probably did arrive together or around the same time.
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The use of Browning and later of Kendrick suggests these may be names of ancestors. Worth looking for marriages with those names? I take it his death cert does not give his parents' names?
Andrea
They have always struck me as quite unusual names. From what I have heard the Turner's lived near and perhaps worked on a farm owned by the Browning Family and it somehow got linked in with their names. I haven't been able to prove that though. I have no idea about the name Kendrick but like you say it could have been a family name. No, his death cert doesn't give parents names which is a shame.
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It might be worth looking at census records to see if there is still a Browning family in that area later. Might pin down the location a bit better.
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I have now found your John Turner on a passenger list to Oz with Jane Atkins, a 17 year old bonnet maker, on the same ship.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1838Eden.htm
They were on The Eden out of Portsmouth arriving SA 24th June 1838. Consecutive passenger numbers suggest John, a brick-maker, was with 2 of his brothers, Henry James Browning aged 21 (born c1817) & William aged 17 (born c1821). John's age on that passenger list is 20, giving him a birth year of c1818. The only member of the family with the middle name Browning listed against his name however, was John's elder brother Henry who was a Farmer.
John and William were married in a double wedding (Adelaide 20th Aug 1838) both having elder brother Henry as their witness.
William's new wife was 21 year old Amelia Goble who was also on The Eden in 1838 with her younger brother Charles.
It may help narrow the search down for parents if all 3 brothers can be found being baptised in the same West Sussex Parish. Alternatively, assuming both Henry and William outlived their brother John, you may find one of them has put the names of their mutual parents on other Australian documents. Look up Henry James Browning Turner who died 14 Feb 1893 in Mallala, South Australia for example. An unexpected bonus is that Henry and his family are well recorded and there is a photo of his gravestone on the Internet.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/sa/mallala/mallala_hsimages/turner_henry_elizabeth.jpg
Roy G
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I have now found your John Turner on a passenger list to Oz with Jane Atkins, a 17 year old bonnet maker, on the same ship.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1838Eden.htm
They were on The Eden out of Portsmouth arriving SA 24th June 1838. Consecutive passenger numbers suggest John, a brick-maker, was with 2 of his brothers, Henry James Browning aged 21 (born c1817) & William aged 17 (born c1821). John's age on that passenger list is 20, giving him a birth year of c1818. The only member of the family with the middle name Browning listed against his name however, was John's elder brother Henry who was a Farmer.
John and William were married in a double wedding (Adelaide 20th Aug 1838) both having elder brother Henry as their witness.
William's new wife was 21 year old Amelia Goble who was also on The Eden in 1838 with her younger brother Charles.
It may help narrow the search down for parents if all 3 brothers can be found being baptised in the same West Sussex Parish. Alternatively, assuming both Henry and William outlived their brother John, you may find one of them has put the names of their mutual parents on other Australian documents. Look up Henry James Browning Turner who died 14 Feb 1893 in Mallala, South Australia for example. An unexpected bonus is that Henry and his family are well recorded and there is a photo of his gravestone on the Internet.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/sa/mallala/mallala_hsimages/turner_henry_elizabeth.jpg
Roy G
Thanks Roy, that is really impressive. I think that I will try to figure out where the Browning farm is, since that name seems to keep cropping up. Once, I track down that I might be able to figure out where they came from. I will also look up records for the siblings, like you suggested :)
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I have found a family of Brownings, living on a farm in Fletching, Sussex. Anne and James Browning own the farm. There are also alot of Turner's living in Fletching in the same census - so perhaps they came from Fletching ? :)
Edited to add there is a William Turner born 1774, living in Fletching 1841, occupation Agricultural Labourer, he is living with a John Brown, so perhaps there is some connection there. There is also an Abraham Turner with the same occupation in 1841 census living in Fletching. Apparently, my Turners worked on a Browning farm and started to add it into their own names.
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Although it is possible that they came from Fletching, migration from there to the area around Chichester is unusual. I would still opt for the name Browning, and the later name Kendrick, coming from an ancestor on the Maternal side, but unfortunately my copy of the Sussex Marriage Index is not compatible with the computer set up I have here. Perhaps whilst you are checking out farms, another helpful Rootschatter could check out Turner & Browning and Turner & Kendrick marriages on the SMI for you.
I have also dug out the following Rootsweb entry from 1998 which suggests you may need to pop over the border from Chichester into Hampshire for an answer to family connection with Kendrick, for that does seem possible that it has its origins in either John Turner or Jane Atkins' line.
Hello, We are currently researching Turner's from Havant and Chichester c1780-1840. Also Kendrick's of both places for the same period. Any info appreciated. In addition we are researching Gandy's of Hampshire and finally, Atkins of North Mundham, both c1800-1840. We would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has any of these names in their database.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SUSSEX-PLUS/1998-08/0904581255
Roy G
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I have checked the SMI. Nothing obvious. Very few Kendrick entries so not a common name in Sussex.
Andrea
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Thanks Andrea and Roy :)
I will check out the rootsweb link and thanks for the SMI lookup.
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Hi Rebecca, John Browning Turner is my great great Grandfather. I am descended from Kendrick Browning Turner. I have found the the birth of John Browning and brothers & sister after many years of searching. It was never Fishbourne! This is probably where he lived later and even worked. Check out the baptism registers for the Nether Wallops, Hampshire. ( I have been there, it is a beautiful place.) It is good if you look at the source yourself and the Hampshire records are online. There are Brownings in the Parish records but I have found no connection. I understand that a farm named Browning is a strong possibility as I know someone else who was following this lead. Parents of the Browning Turner children are Edward and Elizabeth nee Wilkins. Edward was a farmer!
Elizabeth WILKINS m Edward TURNER 17TH September 1811. Elizabeth was from Tisbury Wiltshire. In 1829 Elizabeth TURNER died in Tilsbury. They lived in Hampshire for about 11 years. Edward birth place is still unknown but I am of the understanding that he may have been born in 1789 and had a father or brother named Richard.
I have a good source that suggests Edward also came to South Australia a year after the boys, on the ship the Buckinghamshire with his daughter MaryAnn."Buckinghamshire" Departed London Dec 11th 1838 & arrived Adelaide on 21st March 1839.
The following Turners were on board:
Edward Turner Snr, 49, widower, farmer.
Edward Jnr, 25, butcher, son of Edward snr.
Mary A. 21, dressmaker, daughter of Edward snr.
Jane 20, housemaid, " " "
Thomas 19, labourer, son of Edward snr.
Charles 17, labourer, " "
Noah 15, labourer " "
Other Turners were recorded on this ship and have him as their father but at least Noah at this stage, is confirmed NOT to be. I think he just got tagged with Edward by mistake. Charles is doubtful too. More on Mary Ann. After the death of her Husband, William Gandy in 1862 in Victoria she married Robert McBride in 1863. Mary Ann McBride died in 1869 in Victoria, aged 50. Her father was Edward Turner and mother Elizabeth unknown and she was born in "Hamp". I think this may confirm that she is the sister of John Browning Turner.
Please let me know if you are interested in any of this info. I am happy to swap notes.
How are you related?
Heather
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Hi Heather,
Just found this post - I think we're distantly related! Henry James Browning Turner (John's brother) is MY great, great Grandfather. His eldest son Richard, b 1845, his son Henry Darling Turner b 1875, then my father.
There's no-one I can ask who's living who might know where the Turners were from, but I'm intrigued to find out how you came by this information/conclusion. You would not be so happy to have found this out if there was any doubt in your mind. :) Can you tell me more?
Thanks,
Candy
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Hi Candy,
I am away now and back on the 8th July. I have many sources including Parish records. You can see the Parish records in the Nether Wallop, Hampshire on line. I know I went through a particular site to find them but I cannot remember which one. I can tell you more about this when I return home. Am I able to e mail you directly? I am a bit of an novice with this site and have not got the courage to give you my direct e mail (which I am happy to do) as I am not sure how to do that without everyone seeing it! If you have any questions feel free to list them. Basically the browning Turners came out on Two boats and can be connected. The Biographical index of South Australia has an introduction on many of the children and their families but there are a few small mistakes such as John Browning TURNER being born in Fishborne. He probably resided there! Hope this helps Heather
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Hi Heather,
Thanks for your reply! Um, it was my first post too, so I'm not sure how we can communicate 'off forum' either without a public disclosure which is also probably against the rules anyway. Looks like Nether Wallop (you couldn't make it up, Monty Python couldn't have done better) is on Find My Past, which I don't have a subscription too. Not sure how successful this post will be, but it's great to find this or any information about the Turners. :D Enjoy your break...
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Hello,
This is my first time posting on here. I'm hoping I will get a reply since the original posts were so long ago! I'm a descendant of Henry James Browning Turner (he is my GGG Grandfather) and like some other people have been stumped trying to find where the Turners originated from (Sussex as listed on the shipping records was never the birth place!) What a revelation this was for me after years of research. I have been unable to confirm birth dates for Elizabeth Wilkins and Edward Turner since reading this thread, so would be glad of any other information about the families in Nether Wallop Hampshire and Tisbury Wiltshire.
Many Thanks Mel
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Hi and welcome,
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Oh dear! I am new to RootsChat and have just come across this post (or series of posts!) The above mentioned Charles Turner, in the family group of Edward Turner, is my ggg grandfather. No wonder I've had trouble finding his origins if he's not even connected to this family. I had twigged that Noah was a ring-in by the parents listed on his death certificate. But what about my Charles? Parents unknown on his death certificate and a place of birth that looks like "Chiddester". His marriage certificate in 1845 is witnessed by a William Turner and Mary Ann Gandy but maybe they weren't related, just acquaintances from the voyage? Who knows? The plot thickens. I'll soldier on and make no assumptions about family relationships.
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Hi and welcome.
Place of birth may well be Chichester so that ties in. Now the county town of West Sussex.
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Jennamar, I am a descendant of Henry aka Henry James Browning Turner. The Turners arrived in two waves. Brothers John Browning, Henry and William all arrived on the Eden in 1838 and promptly all married girls they had met on the voyage. They were all witnesses at each others weddings. In March 1839, widower Edward, Charles' father arrived with his children Edward, Mary Ann, Jane and Charles on the 'Buckingham'. It's pretty safe to assume that both sets of Turners were from the same family. Mary Ann m William Gandy - the signatory of Charles' marriage. When Jane was m in 1839, John Turner and Amelia Goble (wife of William) were the witnesses. When Henry remarried as a widower in 1845, witnesses were Charles and Jane Atkins (John's wife) etc, etc. What's confusing is the Chichester and Hampshire origins. They certainly sailed from Portsmouth nr Chichester, and were living there at the time. Mary Ann's DC says she was b in Lower Wallop Hampshire, other family members have birth locations as variations on Chichester. Given that Charles' son Isaac did not know his grandparents names indicates that family history was not strong in the family. Sister Mary Ann's third husband, Robert McBride stated her parents were Edward and Elizabeth and this matches baptism records in Hampshire. It's all a bit confusing 8). I'd like to acknowledge they I could not answered this authoritatively with the help of MelJade who has also done an enormous amount of work around this family. Feel free to email me if you wish to know more or have access to my Ancestry family tree which is private as it's a work in progress. ::) Hope this helps,
Candy
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Hi Jennamar,
I am descendent from Henry James Browning Turner, though his youngest child Rosetta. This family has been a bit tricky to track, and there are still some unanswered questions - unfortunately I have not had a lot of time to do further research lately.
Catpow and I made some breakthrough's together a couple years ago, so without her help I wouldn't have the information I have either! As you may be aware, despite arriving in SA, some branches of the Turner family went to Victoria and even Broken Hill, but trying to prove they were all the same family was not straight forward.
If you have any questions I'm happy to share information.
Mel
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Thankyou so much, Catpow and meljade for the replies and offers of assistance. I'm feeling quite heartened again, after the disappointment that Charles may not have been a part of this family at all. Its always nice to feel we belong somewhere. I might gather together what I already know about Charles and then bounce some questions off you two, if that's okay. Thanks again for answering me and offering to help. Much appreciated. And here I was, thinking nothing would come from joining this site! Cheers, Jeanette
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Jeanette, I'm sure it would be of interest, particularly if you know anything about Charles' early life. Incidentally, I'm also probably related to you in a couple of other ways :). Henry James Browning Turner (a name on his gravestone, although he never used anything but plain Henry all his life, including his will), is my GGgrandfather through his eldest son Richard on my father's side. But on my mother's side I am descended from Polkinghornes from Cornwall like Charles' wife. Also, Henry's second wife Elizabeth Edwards, my (and MelJade's ancestor) was also from the same area of Cornwall, and her mother was an Ann Hicks, also from the Redruth area of Cornwall as was Charles' wife's mother Mary Hicks. All a bit coincidental :D.
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Wow! Catpow, this is getting exciting, at least for me. :D I was seriously thinking of giving up on the Turner line but now my interest is piqued. And how crazy that we may have another connection. The world just got smaller, rather than larger. Poor Mary Polkinghorne (nee Hicks) didn't last long in Adelaide. So sad for a family that travelled so far for a new life. And she happened to pass before official records were kept for West Terrace Cemetery but she wasn't quite one of the first in to Adelaide and may have had her passing noted. But I'm sure she's proud of everyone's endeavours to track her.
I live in Gippsland, Victoria. But to the West, rather than the East at Bruthen, where Charles ended up. By chance, a fellow member of my local Genealogical group was asking question of a speaker a few months ago and I was amazed that he was asking questions about my Francis Polkinghorne (father of Elizabeth, who became Turner). Small world again. This chappy does his research without the internet. (Yeah, I don't know how.) He's a generation ahead of me and has more 'family knowledge'. I'm sure he'll be thrilled I've mad a contact when I tell him Thursday night. Thanks again for answering me, Candy. You've made my day. Cheers, Jeanette
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Jeanette, I'll look for more concrete proof i.e. the exact link point for the Polkinghornes and Hicks. I've never done a DNA test (and I don't really know how they work) but I think it would go into meltdown if you and I did a match 8).
Do you have a family tree on Ancestry?
Candy
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Ha ha, Candy, no Ancestry tree unfortunately. I started looking at family history about 25 years ago but life got too busy and I didn't get very far. Just started again a year ago and learning heaps with all this stuff on the internet. I just downloaded the Legacy program a few weeks ago so have been madly adding my people. (Actually, oops, are you allowed to say that on here?) But I've been pretty much a bdm and a few letters from oldies kind of family historian. Trove helps to fill in the gaps.... too much sometimes. I will get a tree together and rope in one of my kids to help me send it to you. Yes, I'm that bad.
I was just ploughing through the Cornwall OPC database to find more Hicks. Don't ask me what opc stands for but I was having fun. Cheers, Jeanette
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Hello to all on this thread. I know this thread is old, but I hope someone will respond back. Facts: Richard Turner and Jane Staker of Yapton-Ford, Sussex were married at Ford Sussex 11 May 1784. They had three children:
Mary Turner baptized 05 May 1785 at Yapton, Sx
Edward Turner baptized 11 September 1786 at Washington, Sx
Zaccheus Turner baptized 18 May 1789 at Washington, Sx
Jane Staker was baptized 05 Mar 1748 at Yapton, Sussex, the 5th of 9 children born to Zaccheus Staker and Mary Browning; and, a granddaughter of John Staker & Jane Bridger of Yapton, Sx, and Henry Browning and Ann Silverlock of Bosham, Sx
Mary Turner married to Edward Michell of Rudgwick, son of Edward Michell and Elizabeth Burgess, and they had 12 children. I descend from their eldest, Edward Michell who married to Mary Hampton. Years of careful research spanning four generations of my family members has amounted to a collection of data to include the entire clan up to date, with exception of some events since about the year 2000. Our clan is huge. Edward and Mary lived at Kithurst Farm in Storrington circa 1807-1817 and then in the village of Steyning for the remainder of their lives.
Zaccheus Turner married his first cousin, Ann Staker, dau of Benjamin Staker and Sarah Holman. They had 8 children of which only two married and had families. This clan is easy to track through the censuses and BMD's, etc. Zaccheus and Ann lived at Frobury Farm in Kingsclere, Hampshire circa 1812-1820, then at Rowlands Castle, Charlton, Hampshire, circa 1823, then at Storrington, Sx, circa 1824-1829, and then at Chichester for a short period of time in the 1830's and back at Yapton by the 1841 census.
Edward Turner has been a mystery to me, however the information gathered by descendants of Edward Turner & Elizabeth Wilkins, most who emigrated from England to Australia in 1838-39 suggest Edward was a son of Richard and Jane.
Some summaries suggest he was son of Richard Turner and Jane Robinson. That is not true, as there is no doubt that their son Edward Turner, born in the 1790's stayed in Sussex, England and was a C of E minister. Both PCC wills of this Richard Turner and Jane Turner, and various baptism records identify this family. If, they are related to the Edward Turner who moved to Australia, it would be at least as second cousins.
I have been focusing research on Chichester, including Somerstown, Fishburne, Newtown, etc. to try and figure out the Turner clan.
Also in Yapton, property lease deeds name Richard Turner and James Turner together a number of times. I have been tracking the James Turner family, all who I have accounted for except for two sons, James Turner Jr. born circa 1797 and John Turner Jr. born circa 1808 whom I cannot find, except they were named on Yapton rectory Lease deeds until about 1840. If they are in the 1841 Census, I cannot identify them. There do not appear to be in 1851. Either they died or left England. My goal has been to connect them somehow to your group in Australia, but nothing stands out, except for a "James Turner Jr." who went to South Australia about same time as your group.
Richard Turner of Yapton, and later Chanctonbury, Washington, Sussex, and lastly of Chichester, Sx, was buried 04 July 1825 at Yapton, age noted as 76, suggesting a birth year of 1747/48/49. I have not conclusively identified who this Richard Turner was the son of. There is one baptized in Chichester in 1748, son of John and Ann Turner.
If anyone is interested, I have put together a Turner WORD file I am happy to share.
From all of the information currently circulated about your Turner family in South Australia, did son Edward Jr. marry Ellen Sweeny? and Daughter Jane--what happened to her. I have feeling there is confusion about death of Jane Barnard who married Henry James Browning Turner and we know died in 1839 being noted as the death of Jane Turner dau of Edward. I wonder if the burial record where is says informant Edward Turner (F) would mean father-in-law? Both Janes were about the same age. What happened to Jane Turner, dau of Edward?
Thank-you, Glenn in Canada.
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Hi Glenn,
It has been many years since I have been looking at the Turner's and recently decided to pick it up again (fingers crossed you see this!) There seems to be a fair bit on Ancestry, but following up on some of these names, I couldn't find hard evidence (marriages fail to mention parents names etc) to prove exact connections. There also seems to be theories of a connection between Elizabeth Wilkin's family and the Wilkin's in Tisbury Wiltshire - I'm not so sure with some of the research I have done. Checking up on this post again was a pleasant surprise. Since this post you may have been in contact with catpow (I have not had any correspondence her for many years), but in answer to your questions...
1) Edward jr did marry Ellen Sweeny on 6 Jan 1840 at the Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide, South Australia. They had x2 daughters - Ellen born about 1840 and Emma born about 1844. There does not seem to be any birth records for these two children. Emma went on to marry James Ashby, then James Foulds and died in 1874. Ellen married Malcolm Spence, William Hill and her 3rd marriage was to Joseph Flower and died on 1926. Emma and Ellen did have children.
2) Jane Turner (Edward and Elizabeth's daughter) went on to marry John Essenhigh on the 15/05/1845 at Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide. They went on to have 5 children. At some point she moved to Melton Victoria with her family and died in 1876.
I would like to exchange more information if possible, the Turners have proved difficult to track!
Regards Mel
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Hi Mel (and Glenn),
Yes, I have been quiet and Mel, it's nice to see you're still around. I agree the Wilkins of Tisbury seems to be wrong, but I don't know what's right ???. But Glenn's information that Edward was a son of Richard and Jane makes some sense, given my G/Grandfather Richard Turner born 1845 was Henry James Browning's eldest (living) son. I too would like any info that Glenn might be able to provide on the Turners.
Cheers,
Candy (catpow)
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I hope this reply gets to you--was having problems getting this to reply--Here is what I typed in the enclosed attachment in my notes regarding Turners of Yapton. I can be emailed (*) It has been a few years. I never quite finished typing everything for a few of the later families, but this should give you lots to look through.
The Michell family is a whole study of its own (my clan) so is not included in these notes except to name Mary Turner's husband and twelve children. Any MITCHELL spellings is as it appears in indexes and/or original images. Our surname is MICHELL dating back to at least the 15th century.
You will see my notes regarding the Wilkins. I presumed your connection to Tisbury as noted in the first paragraph in that section of he notes (about page 4 of the document.)
I found this note in an archive website--not sure where at this point:
Recorded in The Solicitor’s Journal & Reporter February 13, 1858, page 315—Wilkins, Betsy, afterwards Betsy Turner, wife of Edward Turner, who resided in Middle Wallop, Hants, in or about the year 1828. Next of kin communicate with Mr. Footser, Solicitor, Andover.
Glenn P. Michell
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Here is the notes I have about the JAMES TURNER of Yapton. No proof this family is related but might be.
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Wow Glenn,
This is amazingly thorough and well researched. Thank you so much! I'll cross reference all this with what I have and see if I can find out any more. If you like, I can send you a link to my Ancestry tree (there's a lot of guff that would be irrelevant to you, but who knows you might find it of interest, MelJade has access for example).
Regards,
Candy (Catpow)
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Hi Glenn and Candy,
Thank you Glenn for sharing, a huge amount of information to digest - very excited to read this thoroughly. How did you get a photo of Elizabeth Barnard? what a find.
Candy, hope you are well. If your email is the same, happy to discuss anything off forum. Mine has not changed :)
Browning as a middle name certainly had been used for many generations (more than I expected) It was last used in my direct line with my Great Grandfather - Clifton (AKA Cliffie/Cliff) Browning Robinson. Unfortunately he passed away when I was only 4.
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Hi,
I was looking at Henry James Browning Turner and noticed this particular forum.
My name is Roy Raymond Turner, son of Howard Ray Turner(deceased) Grandson of Richard Turner.
Howard was the son of Richard's second wife Olive Hilda Nixon.
I hope this helps