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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: anncor on Friday 03 August 12 17:51 BST (UK)
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Hi can anyone help me with this .I am stuck on these people forever.I am looking for the existence of Robert Deegan and Mary Kennedy.They had a son born about 1860 in Wexford and when the son marries in Dublin 1888 it states they are living in New Ross.I cant find a marriage or death or anything on them .I dont know if they had any other children as i cant seem to get past this.Thanks
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Have you checked New Ross parish records for a possible marriage or baptism of their son ?
Transcripts for some Co. Wexford records are on RootsIreland, but I dont think any for New Ross are on the system yet.
Shane
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yeah have tried them.
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Do you have a place of birth for the son, or just 'Wexford' - as in County Wexford ?
Shane
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The son Patrick Deegan just has Wexford on both 1901 and 1911 cencus but on marriage cert in 1888 says his parents live in new Ross
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I think a search for the son's baptism might be a better place to start. If you can find this parish then you have a starting point to search for the parents marriage, possible siblings etc ..
New Ross could mean that it was the closest town to where Robert and Mary lived - they could have been located in one of the surrounding parishes, or from a different part of Co. Wexford originally.
Other than a manual trawl of all the parishes near to New Ross I think it may be better to wait to see what Co. Wexford records RootsIreland add and see if a baptism shows up for Patrick.
Shane
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are they coming soon do you know?
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They've no estimate on their website - just three parishes added so far, nothing added for a few months. The alternative would be searching microfilms for Co. Wexford... maybe starting around New Ross. Could be a gamble if you are not 100% certain where Patrick was born...
Shane
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I have Patricks birth in Wexford estimated about 1860 and marriage in Dublin 1888,any ideas as to where to look for him in between .He was a baker by trade ,thats all I really know about him
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Hello,
would the marriage certificate not just show the places of residence of the spouses - not particularly origins or parental addresses? (I'm not sure though!)
heywood
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Sorry- I see him now as a baker in censuses born Wexford.
Is there an occupation for Robert?
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The problem is 'Wexford' - is that somewhere in County Wexford or the town ?
You need to know the name of the parish he was baptized in to search registers. That's why I suggested the online option...even though that's not fully available yet
Which Dublin parish was Patrick married in ? I didn't see the marriage on IrishGenealogy
There's doesn't seem to be any Robert Deegan on Griffith's valuation, but there are other Deegans. One near Enniscorthy, most of the other listings seem to relate to a Jane Deegan in the civil parish of Ambrosetown.
see : Deegan entries, Griffiths (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0&familyname=deegan&firstname=&baronyname=&countyname=WEXFORD&unionname=&parishname=)
Shane
re Heywood's post - often current residence for Parents in RC marriages in Dublin city, and usually just the name of the nearest large town if the location was outside Dublin.
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I dont think the parents were present at the wedding and it has an added note on the bottom of the cert .I also got some of Patricks childrens birth certs and there is no Deegans on there as sponsors,so I can assume he moved to Dublin on his own
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I have Patricks birth in Wexford estimated about 1860 and marriage in Dublin 1888,any ideas as to where to look for him in between .He was a baker by trade ,thats all I really know about him
sorry - missed the 'look for him in between' bit...
Unless he ran his own business and appears in a directory, or had a brush with the legal system there may not be much to find between his baptism and marriage.
Maybe as a witness or godparent on family baptisms or marriages ?
Shane
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Yeah will do that .His father Robert was also a baker and so was the next generation so wondering if there are any lists of bakeries in Wexford at that time/
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Directories are the way to check for bakeries...the problem is they only include the larger towns, and show just the business owner - so if Robert was employed as a baker rather than running his own business he would not appear.
I think that I may have checked before.... but will have a another look
Are you sure Robert was alive at the time of the marriage ?
Shane
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here the marriage cert and see what you think .Maybe you will see something im missing
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Sorry doesnt seem to be sending anyway.Marriage record is for st paul,s arran quay and it has notes on the end .It just says grooms parents address is new ross with the letter L beside it /
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Pity the marriage is not on the IrishGenealogy website - RootsIreland only have transcripts rather than images.
Usually RC marriage records mention in Latin if the either or both parents are deceased - sometimes with an abbreviation like 'Mort.' On the city records I've seen a place of residence is only mentioned if either or both is living.
I've had a look at directories from 1881 and 1870 - and no sign of any Deegan bakeries in Wexford town or New Ross. I also checked Enniscorthy and Gorey.
Shane.
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Thanks for taking the time for looking things up for me.Begining to wonder if his name is really Robert as when you look at 1901 cencus there is only 1 or 2 and yet that name has been passed down in generations.