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I would like to know if someone has researched the family history of Howard Winstone, the famous boxer from Merthyr Tydfil. I don't think "Winstone" is a particularly common Welsh name. I would like to know if his family line can be traced back to Eastcombe in Bisley Parish near Stroud.
My interest is because in the early 1900s, my grandfather and his 6 brothers left Bisley Parish where they were born and moved to Merthyr and Bedlinog. Their mother, my great grandmother, Annie Winstone, had married into the Fisher family.
Annie Winstone's family had lived in Bisley for many generations. The village of Winstone is not too far from it either.
So I was wondering whether one of the reasons for their move was that my great grandmother, Annie Winstone, had rellies living in South Wales already. The Winstones seemed to produce lots of children in each generation.
Of course, there were lots of financial reasons/opportunities to move as they did. So maybe it's just a coincidence? Or maybe not??
I'd be glad to hear from anyone with a Winstone connection in South Wales.
Thanks
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BBC Wales did a very good programme on Howard Winstone, his family and mentioning his two marriages, last aired a few months ago
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Hi
Rootchatter Garethboxing is writing a book on boxers of WAles worth checking him out on the Glamorgan site
will leave message for him also
cheers cardiff ;)
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Hi
Saw your post by chance whilst on google....will be back again with more information for you but just to say you may have a lead here. I am a second cousin of Howard Winstone and after teaching in South Wales for the last twenty plus years I know the surname is uncommon and those I have met with the surname I have found I am related to. His grandfather was my great grandfather Benjamin Winstone. I know for a fact that the family was large and were not from Merthyr Tydfil originally. Will have a think....
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Hi katy winstone howards mother was katy quinn my great grandmothers sister her name was roseanna quinn she married daniel donoghue my great grandfather they came from county cork in ireland im currently doing family tree on my dads side if i can help let me know
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I would like to know if someone has researched the family history of Howard Winstone, the famous boxer from Merthyr Tydfil. I don't think "Winstone" is a particularly common Welsh name. I would like to know if his family line can be traced back to Eastcombe in Bisley Parish near Stroud.
My interest is because in the early 1900s, my grandfather and his 6 brothers left Bisley Parish where they were born and moved to Merthyr and Bedlinog. Their mother, my great grandmother, Annie Winstone, had married into the Fisher family.
Annie Winstone's family had lived in Bisley for many generations. The village of Winstone is not too far from it either.
So I was wondering whether one of the reasons for their move was that my great grandmother, Annie Winstone, had rellies living in South Wales already. The Winstones seemed to produce lots of children in each generation.
Of course, there were lots of financial reasons/opportunities to move as they did. So maybe it's just a coincidence? Or maybe not??
I'd be glad to hear from anyone with a Winstone connection in South Wales.
Thanks
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Thanks Carl for your email. I'd be interested to know anything you might find out if you research the Winstone family line.
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I dont know if there is a connection, i dont know much about my family tree, i know my great grandfather was Richard Martin Winstone (international rugby referee) semi famous in his own right ,neath rugby club has a memorial of him.
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Interesting... Do you have his birth certificate? or date of birth?
Thanks for getting in touch.
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Hello Chaps,
you are right, Winston[e] is not a common name in South Wales.
My interest in the name is thru my DNA is connected.
The FTDNA - William Cecil, Lord Burghley FTDNA Project.
The Winston[e] name is attached to this study.
Along with the names of Word, Harris, Webb, Gilbert, Cecil[various], Thomas, Howells and Hyatt.
The Cecil DNA Project has as it target area - Herfordshire, Gloucestershire, Breconshire and south Wales generally.
If any of these names appear in your Winston[e] heritage i am up for a chat.
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Hey all I can see this is a really old post, but I am the grandson of lynn Winstone who’s cousin was Howard Winstone, currently doing a family tree and waiting for the dna test results too, sone great info on here and happy to share what I have also if anyone is still looking or can help me also
Many thanks
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Hello David,
good luck with the Tree.
See previous reply#8.
Our Cecil DNA crew would like to be involved in expanding your[our] heritage.
Drop me a note either in the Personal Messages or thru this forum when you get your results.
Cheers
Jack Gee
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I’ve taken all the info I can so far but struggling on Howard’s parents as I’ve got his dad as either Howard or Benjamin but found a Benjamin Howard Winstone, so not sure if it’s just that person but went by the name Howard, and then his mum I’ve got either Katy Quinn or Kathleen donohuge, can anyone help with this ?
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I’ve taken all the info I can so far but struggling on Howard’s parents as I’ve got his dad as either Howard or Benjamin but found a Benjamin Howard Winstone, so not sure if it’s just that person but went by the name Howard, and then his mum I’ve got either Katy Quinn or Kathleen donohuge, can anyone help with this ?
Hi David welcome to Rootschat :)
I am not connected to the Winstone surname but to answer your query.
Info
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Winstone
Birthdate 15 April 1939 Death 30 September 2000
Births Jun Q 1939
Winstone Howard mother's maiden Donoghue Merthyr T. 11a 791
Possible
Marriages Dec Q 1932
Donoghue Catherine Winstone Merthyr T. 11a 1496
Winstone Benjamin H Donoghue Merthyr T 11a 1496
4 possible children born to couple in Merthyr 1933 -1949 the brother mentioned in article was born 1949 but birthcert would confirm
There is also another marriage for Winstone - Donoghue 1933 in Bridgend area but different names, Arthur/Eileen
Hope this helps
Cas
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Oh fab I will get these added
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Hi David
I wrote the first post in this topic because I would be very interested to know whether there is a connection between the Merthyr Tydfil Winstone family and my ancestors who lived in Eastcombe near Stroud.
My ancestor Charles WINSTONE was born in 1828 and was a mason/builder along with his brother Lot WINSTONE. His grandsons moved to the South Wales valleys in the 1900s. And other than the prosperity connected to coal etc in the area, I wonder whether there were relatives living here too.
I note from Free BMD that there were WINSTONEs' births registered in Merthyr Tydfil in 1837 onwards. So if there is a connection, it goes back further than that.
So I'd be really interested to hear if you do find a connection with the Stroud area.
All the best with your research.
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My dna test may bring back some results, there are 2 Winstone families mine is the boxer family with loads of Howard’s in it