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Title: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: Harlem on Thursday 09 August 12 12:02 BST (UK)
Dear Cheshire Rootschatters

FindMyPast has online Cheshire Electoral Registers. I have found Joseph Macnab in Bennet Lane, Newton, nr. Victoria Street, Nr. Hyde, the occupier of a machine shop, 1868-69. Also in Bennet Lane in 1870. Yet I cannot find him in the 1861 census, nor in 1871, and nor can I find Bennet Lane or Victoria Street in either census. Do any of you have an idea why not?

Also - which Newton would this be please?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Harlemswife
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: JJen on Thursday 09 August 12 12:21 BST (UK)
Possible 1871 -

Joseph Macnab 28 b. Scotland, Engineer
Mary Macnab 26 b. Scotland
Colin Easton Macnab 8 Months b. Scotland

RG10 Piece: 4080 Folio 29 Page 2 - Sub Reg Dist of Newton, Cheshire

JJ
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: Huckleberry on Thursday 09 August 12 12:51 BST (UK)
Newton(also Newton Moor) comes under Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire on the census.  Joseph looks to be in Scotland in 1861
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 09 August 12 14:09 BST (UK)
Joseph McNAB married Mary EASTON 05 Oct 1869, Abbey Paisley, Renfrew
(Source Familysearch.Org)

The McNabs address in 1871 is Ashton Road.
1881 it is 132 Mottram Road, Hyde, Cheshire.
He was employing 70 men/boys by 1881.

Have a look around on here;
Photos of "disappeared streets"
I did find Mottram St on an old map
http://hydonian.blogspot.com.au/

Trish :)

Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 09 August 12 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi
If you put 132 Mottram Road, Godley, hyde Sk14 2RZ in Google you will see where the house was - or might even still be. If I get chance, I will see if it's still there at the corner of Halton Street. It might have been where the gap is near the traffic lights.

Heather
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 09 August 12 16:15 BST (UK)
Have you got these birth records?

James Easton Macnab 1872
Jane Macnab 1873
Thomas Pollock Macnab 1876
Charles Edward Stuart Macnab 1884

All registered Newton and Godley
mmn Easton

Heather
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 09 August 12 16:25 BST (UK)
1891
The Hollies 173 Mottram Road Hyde

Joseph
Mary
James
Jane
Joseph
Johies Easton 85 retired weaver born Hyde
Thomas
C E Stuart
Emma Livsey servant
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: JJen on Thursday 09 August 12 16:49 BST (UK)
Bit of extra info (if you don't already have it  :) ) -

Joseph MacNab of Hyde, died 4 Feb 1898

Historical Directories  - Morris & Co.'s Directory & Gazetteer of Cheshire, 1874, entry for -

Pollock & MacNab, Engineers & Toolmakers, Britannia Iron Works, Newton Moor.

There are various pieces of information regarding this firm available on the internet.

JJ
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: Harlem on Thursday 09 August 12 19:06 BST (UK)
Thank you all very much for finding Joseph Macnab for me. He seems to have been a very succesful individual. It is confusing when Newton ups and moves from Cheshire to Lancashire, and that's probably why I missed him - I typed Cheshire into the County box, so he doesn't come up.

Unfortunately (for me!) I now think he is not 'my' Joseph Macnab because he is too young. My Joseph lived in Stanhope St., Toxteth park, Liverpool in 1841, married to Frances (nee Hodgson). He disappeared after that, and I cannot identify his death, so I wondered if he just left her. He was described variously as an engineer and an iron turner, so when I found a metal-working man with the same name in nearby Cheshire,  I thought it might be him. But my Joseph was born in 1804, so I don't think it's the same one.

Many thanks again

Harlemswife
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 09 August 12 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi
In 1851 in Toxteth Park
at 2 Cobury Street

Frances Mcnabb widow 40 born 1811 South Shields Durham
Anna Mcnabb daughter 18 born 1833 Liverpool

are with the Royal family
Alice
Eliza
William
Robert
Mary Bellbarrow

Heather
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: Harlem on Saturday 11 August 12 11:56 BST (UK)
Yes - that's her, Heather, and she is described as a widow. The problem is that I cannot find Joseph's death. So I wondered if he just up and left her. And then I wondered if he did that she might claim to be a widow, but not actually be one. I suppose he might have gone to sea, since they lived in Liverpool.

Thanks

Harlemswife
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 11 August 12 12:33 BST (UK)
The only 2 deaths that I could find were in Manchester 1847 and 1848
Heather
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: Harlem on Sunday 12 August 12 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Heather - yes - and if you search FindMyPast's parish burials, one of those was a baby. The other one might be my Joseph, but I cannot say for certain unless I spend money on the death cert!!

Harlemswife
Title: Re: Joseph Macnab, Newton, 1868
Post by: petermcnabb23 on Tuesday 26 December 17 05:59 GMT (UK)
I am looking for living descendants of Joseph Macnab (1842-1898) living at Newton in 1868. Joseph's grandfather Mungo McNab is my great great grandfather.