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Title: Offer: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups
Post by: sunflower on Friday 10 August 12 13:25 BST (UK)

I  have access to Sutton cum Duckmanton records 1662 - 1910 including Monumential Inscriptions if anyone wants a look up


Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Saturday 04 May 13 14:27 BST (UK)

George Clarkson married Dorothy (Dolly)Lievesley, on 13 Oct 1773, in Sutton Cum Duckmanton.
They had 3 children, George baptised 15 February 1782, being the last child I believe.
Could anyone help me with the date of Dorothy (Dolly) death. Thanks

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Saturday 04 May 13 14:48 BST (UK)

Hi

It looks like Dorothy may have died in childbirth.

Dolly Clarkson, wife of George, buried 15 Feb 1782

no age given. but I will check the MI's later and get back to you

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Saturday 04 May 13 14:56 BST (UK)

Thanks, that really is interesting information.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Saturday 04 May 13 15:23 BST (UK)

Hi Carol-Most kind of your offer.

My Gt Granny Mary Tidmarsh (Various spellings 'Lidmarsh Tidmash and Titmarsh Litmarsh') died in Sutton cum Duckmanton 1902 second quarter. Her husband My Gt granddad Samuel Tidmarsh died in Clowne 1920 first quarter but Clowne parish register in the archives only goes up to 1909 and the later ones seem lost!
We wondered if he was buried in Duckmanton with his wife Mary, one of them things I mean to check out one day. So could you have a look as register also any MI's (Though I think they were too poor for a headstone.)

Dobby

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Saturday 04 May 13 17:53 BST (UK)

Hi Retford

Nothing on the MI's I'm afraid.  George & Dolly had 4 children altogether, as well as George there was -
William 2 Feb 1775
Elizabeth bapt 19 Oct 1777
Martha bapt 27 Jun 1779

Do you want information from the marriage entry or have you already got it?

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Saturday 04 May 13 17:57 BST (UK)

Hi Dobby

Here she is -

Mary Tidmarsh,  Sutton Scarsdale, aged 60 buried 16 Jun 1902

No other Tidmarsh's in the burials for Sutton

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Sunday 05 May 13 00:51 BST (UK)

Carol

Many thanks for your help with George and Dorothy Clarkson.

I had no idea that they had a son called William, in fact the info on George and Dorothy I gave on the post is what I had on them.

It came has a shock that George baptised his son and buried his wife on the same day.

Anymore info you can give me on them would be much appreciated especially if George remarried and was they both born in Sutton cum Duckmanton ? I know from my hits on the net that the surname "Lievesley" is a local name.

Look forward to hearing from you and once again many thanks for your help.

Retford

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Sunday 05 May 13 13:18 BST (UK)

Hi Retford

Dorothy wasn't a Lievesley by birth as she was a widow when she married George Clarkson

George Clarkson of Chesterfield married Dorothy Lievesley, widow of this parish, by licence 13 Oct 1773 Witnessed by Michl Pass, Elizabeth Lowe, Betty Mitchel.

This looks like her first marriage

John Lievesley bac, otp & Dorothy Peace, spin, otp by banns 25 Oct 1763
witnessed by Ann Plant, James Hewitt, Ann Laverell, Edward Hodginson.

There is a burial for John Lievesley 24 May 1772.

Dorothy Peace baptised 28 June 1748 to William & Mary Peace.

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Sunday 05 May 13 13:36 BST (UK)

Hi Carol

Well that knocked me back a bit !

Never assume anything in Family History.

I thought that this was their first marriage how wrong you can be !

But most important did George marry again in your records ?

thanks

retford

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Sunday 05 May 13 13:48 BST (UK)

Nothing in the Sutton records for a second marriage.

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Sunday 05 May 13 15:23 BST (UK)

Hi Carol

Thank you very much for the info!

Dobby  :D

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Post by: RETFORD on Monday 06 May 13 08:26 BST (UK)

Hi Carol

Once again many thanks for your help with my research.

On any of the previous records relating to George Clarkson, was there any indication of his
occupation ? Also was he buried in Sutton Cum Duckmanton ?

Thanks

Retford

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 06 May 13 12:59 BST (UK)

Quote from: sunflower on Sunday 05 May 13 13:18 BST (UK)

Hi Retford

Dorothy wasn't a Lievesley by birth as she was a widow when she married George Clarkson

George Clarkson of Chesterfield married Dorothy Lievesley, widow of this parish, by licence 13 Oct  1773 Witnessed by Michl Pass, Elizabeth Lowe, Betty Mitchel.

This looks like her first marriage

John Lievesley bac, otp & Dorothy Peace, spin, otp by banns 25 Oct 1763
witnessed by Ann Plant, James Hewitt, Ann Laverell, Edward Hodginson.

There is a burial for John Lievesley 24 May 1772.

Dorothy Peace baptised 28 June 1748 to William & Mary Peace.

Carol

Hi Reford,

The marriage by licence of George, There maybe a bond allegation record at Matlock Derbyshire archives- or possible at York Borthwick University  or Lichfield (nr Birmingham) Archives, this will give George's age at marriage and his occupation also if lucky ? other info.

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Monday 06 May 13 13:06 BST (UK)

Hi Retford

No other information given at all - sorry

As dobby said it may be a idea to get a copy of the marriage licence.  I have just sent for one and because Derbyshire is in the diocese of Lichfield, I had to apply to Lichfield Records Office.  There is a form on their website for applying for licences - It did cost my £12.50 though.

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Monday 06 May 13 13:18 BST (UK)

Many thanks to you both the information given has been a great help.

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 06 May 13 13:27 BST (UK)

Scroll down the link to 'place names'

Under a list of places, there is a paragraph that mentions Chesterfield

http://www.origins.net/help/helpbo-yorkmarr.aspx

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 06 May 13 13:37 BST (UK)

PS

Like Carol -Susan (BumbleB) is dedicated to help folk.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=64964

Sue lives at Tamworth near Lichfield and does look ups at Lichfield archives.


Contact her by Personal message -PM

She is on holiday at the moment but she will answer on her return. (I'll sent her an email aswell )

Fingers crossed

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Monday 06 May 13 13:58 BST (UK)

Thanks Dobby

That's worth remembering, I might need her myself sometime.

Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Tuesday 07 May 13 09:26 BST (UK)

Thanks alot for your help and advise.

I have sent a message to Susan but her inbox is full, will try again later.

Retford

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: dobfarm on Saturday 11 May 13 18:38 BST (UK)

Susan ! sent me an email to say she will look into this Bond allegation at the beginning of July as she has her own matters at the moments to deal with.

Dobby

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Saturday 13 July 13 13:13 BST (UK)

Hi Carol

Still researching George and Dorothy (Dolly) Clarkson of Sutton Cum Duckmanton.
Would you know if any of their children married or died in Sutton Cum Duckmanton ?

Their children : William, baptised 2 Feb 1775.
                       Elizabeth, baptised 19 Oct 1777.
                       Martha, baptised 27 June 1779.
                       George, baptised 15 Feb 1782.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Retford

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: sunflower on Saturday 13 July 13 14:39 BST (UK)

Hi Retford

Sorry no other information on the Clarksons in the Sutton records.  There is only one marriage and one burial, both you already have.

Sorry
Carol

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 13 July 13 18:32 BST (UK)

Just to let everyone know that I have been  to Lichfield - have found the Marriage Bond and Allegation, and have given the details to RETFORD.

Title: Re: Sutton cum Duckmanton Look ups offered
Post by: RETFORD on Sunday 14 July 13 00:49 BST (UK)

Thanks Carol.

That basically clears it all up now have to find where they all went next,
oh the pleasures of Family History !

Many thanks once again to everyone for your advice and help.
RETFORD