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Title: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 13:30 BST (UK)
Hi would anyone be able to help with a birth look up for William Cunnington Bedford 1839. Father would have been John Cunnington Bedford 1813. Thankyou  :)
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 13:59 BST (UK)
Hi
have you found him on 1841 census? and his father John?
cheers cardiff ???
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 14:08 BST (UK)
Hi
I have not found him at all other than in the 1851 census and later, I have found birth which may relate only its in  Uppingham which came from another researcher, so Im not sure as the census says he was born Bedford and John his father was born Bedford also. Its a very confusing part of my search.

Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 14:18 BST (UK)
Hi
 Can you give me the 1851 census info
I see a match on the census ref
1580/469/20 family in Surrey ???
cheers cardiff ???
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 14:42 BST (UK)
Thanks but I already have the census for 1851 2053/525/7 which is correct. Its anything earlier I am really looking for.

 :) Lorraine
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi
 I understand that but I want to see him on the census so I can see who you are looking for ???
So more info you give the easier it is for others to look with or for you!
cheers cardiff  :-\
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 15:03 BST (UK)
I am new to this  ??? so it might take me a bit of time to get it right. I have been searching for a marriage for John Cunnington b:1813 Bedford to Mary Ann Bagley b:1822 Tipton, this has been fruitless and others have exhausted this search too. So I am now trying to find the birth of William Cunnington seen on the 1851 census stating his birth as 1839 Bedford. I have seen a member on here looking for the same and left a post although Im not sure how often they are on here. It may have been that Mary was not his mother as there is a large gap between the first two children. The name is misspelt quite often which causes a lot of  ???

Lorraine
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi
How do you know  or why do you think John cunnington married Mary ann Bagley?
Its ok just remember more info we have its easier you know who you are looking for we don't ;)
cheers cardiff ???
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 15:27 BST (UK)
Ahh  :) Mary Ann Bagley and John Cunnington are the parents of my GG grandfather another John Cunnington b:1856 Birmingham. This is why I was looking for the marriage, which is nowhere to be found. So I am now trying to find William, this is where it gets tricky as I cannot go any further without confusion.
 
L  :)
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 15:40 BST (UK)
Hi
So you have John Cunnington b 1856 birth certificate ???
cheers cardiff
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 15:50 BST (UK)
Yes I have John 1856 Birth cert.  :)
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 15:54 BST (UK)
Ahh  :) Mary Ann Bagley and John Cunnington are the parents of my GG grandfather another John Cunnington b:1856 Birmingham. This is why I was looking for the marriage, which is nowhere to be found. So I am now trying to find William, this is where it gets tricky as I cannot go any further without confusion.
 
L  :)


Hi

Welcome to rootschat  :)

It might be best if we go backwards from John b1856 Birmingham  :)  Is he the one in 1891 with wife Emma living Holborn?

What information does Johns birth cert give - place of birth -parents etc


See next post

Rosie




Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 16:08 BST (UK)
Hi

I have just spotted your census reference for 1851.  It does save us having to look up the details if you could post them in future please.  ;)

living Birmingham 1851
John Cunnington age 33 bn Bedford
Mary Ann age 29 bn Tipton
William 13 bn Bedford
Elizabeth 7 months bn Birmingham

It would not suprise me if William was son of John Cunnington and someone other than Mary Ann.  :-\  Off to look in 1841  ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 16:14 BST (UK)
This looks like Elizabeths birth and should give mothers maiden name

Births September qtr 1850 
Cunnington  Elizabeth   Birmingham    16   336
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: cardiff on Saturday 11 August 12 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi
 yes we need the info written on his birth certificate john 1856
cheers cardiff ???
Ps I don't see them on 1841 ???
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi
Birth Cert for

John Cunnington 21 July 1856 St Martin Birmingham

Mother Mary Ann Cunnington/Bagley
Father John Cunnington /occupation master shoe maker.
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi Cardiff  :)

1861 RG9/2143 f76 Page 14 has them with three more children though no Elizabeth

Peter 7
John 4
Benjamin 2
all bn Birmingham

it's definately looking like a second 'marriage' to me.  

Rosie


Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 17:00 BST (UK)
Hi I have been looking at the census and possibly found this census 1861 could Newman be the name of the mother if this is the correct William ?...

Name:   William Cunnington
Age:   23
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1838
Relation:   Grandson
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Tempsford, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish:   Tempsford
Ecclesiastical parish:   Potton
Town:   Bedfordshire
County/Island:   Bedfordshire
Country:   England
Household schedule number:   24
Piece:   994
Folio:   119
Page Number:   5
Registration district:   Biggleswade
Sub-registration district:   Potton
ED, institution, or vessel:   8

Household Members:   
Name   Age
John Newman   68
William Cunnington   23
Joseph Browning   29
Sarah Browning   28
Rosa E Browning   5
William A Browning   3
Elizabeth Browning   2 Months
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 17:17 BST (UK)
He is with them in 1851 as well, your William is in Birmingham then   :(
H0107/  1753 Folio 19 Page 31

What a shame I thought you'd made a breakthrough.    :(

Rosie
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 17:22 BST (UK)
Still no William bn c1839 but - I might be clutching at straws but he has named one of his children Peter, perhaps after his father.  :-\

from familysearch

John Cunnington
christening date   1813
KEYSOE, BEDFORDSHIRE
father's name   Peter Cunnington
mother's name   Elizabeth
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 17:33 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie
aww I thought it was a long shot too :( I have the christening from Ancestry as this is my only subscription and think it is likely that this is the correct John, with Elizabeth and Peter being the parents.  But William sure is elusive, I am going on the 1851 census that says William was born Bedfordshire too. It is a puzzle though  :-\
Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 11 August 12 18:00 BST (UK)
Familysearch  (free to search)  https://familysearch.org/#start  supposedly has most of Bedfordshire on it so is quite good.  Having said that I have unsolved mysteries in Keysoe as well  ;)

Rosie


Title: Re: Birth William Cunnington 1839.
Post by: hellolollie on Saturday 11 August 12 18:20 BST (UK)
 :) Thankyou all for your help  :)