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I am trying to find the confirmation of the death of a man called Nathaniel JOLL. I think he must have died around 1903. A senior member of the family recalls that he had a job on the building of the railway at Bulawayo and caught yellow fever. She does not know where he was buried. I cannot find any record of his death in the Zimbabwe Death Index.
Also his wife Ruth and 3 daughters (Mary, Ada and Dorothy) must have emigrated from Cornwall to South Africa in 1901. I know this as I have found an auction notice which advertises the household effects for sale in Cornwall in spring 1901. The advert states that Mrs Joll is going to Africa. Despite much searching I cannot find Ruth Joll and daughters on any passenger list.
Can anyone help with these 2 problems?
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is he the N Joll recorded as being in the Army ordance corp in the boer war,,,he was a carpenter?
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Thanks. Yes he must be. He was a joiner by trade. The family of the youngest daughter do not have the medal and we have lost contact with the descendants of the other 2 daughters. So somewhere in SA is his medal - I wonder if present owner knows who "N Joll" was?!
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I have only just started researching the Joll Family in South Africa. But I have discovered the name of Nathaniel Joll, a joiner, on a baptism record in 1922. He was married to Jacoba Elizabeth Biller (my great grandmother) and their daughter was born in July 1922.
Could this be the "missing" Nathaniel Joll who worked in Zimbabwe?
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Mary married a Felix Marks
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REFERENCE 200/1913
PART 1
DESCRIPTION ILLIQUID CASE DIVORCE MARY JANE MARKS (BORN JOLL) VERSUS FELIX.
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ENDING 19130000
I also found this on Mundia.
Birth: 2Q
1864Truro
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Baptism
1870St Peter's, Plymouth
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Residence
1871Prince Street, Falmouth
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Residence: Occ: House Carpenter.
18816 Winchester Buildings, Falmouth
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1st D.C.R.V. Camp At Trevethoe: The 1st Duke Of Cornwall Rifle Volunteers Have Their Summer Camp. Nathaniel There With His Brother John Henry, Both In "C" Company (Falmouth). Source: The Cornishman 07.08.84
1884Trevethoe Farm, Lelant, Cornwall
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Birth Of First Child: Mary Jane
1886Penzance
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Returns From South Africa: Embarkation Port - Cape Town, South Africa. Gives Occ As "jeweller", Wonder If This Was Misreading Of "joiner". Source: Ancestry UK Incoming Passengers
1892Arrives London
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Goes To South Africa: SS Norman Going To Cape Town, Name Given As Just "Mr Joll",occ: "miner", "married", Age "27" Which Is Wrong, Though How Bothered Would Ship's Purser Be To Get The Precise Age? Source: FindMyPast. Poss The Wrong "Mr Joll" Though I Think It Is Prob Him.
1895Leaves Southampton
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Returns From South Africa: Embarkation Port - Cape Town, South Africa. Correctly Gives Occupation As "joiner". Source: Ancestry UK Incoming Passengers
1898Arrives Southampton
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Goes To South Africa: SS Delphic - "N Joll" "Labourer" "36" But In Put In The "Unmarried" Column (mistake?). Going To Cape Town. Source: FindMyPast.
1898Leaves Plymouth
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Job: "Builder (Master)" According To Birth Certificate Of Daughter Dorothy.
1899
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Military: 04.06.00 - 12.07.02. Silver Boer War Medal. Served With Army Ordnance Dept As A Carpenter.
1900Cape Colony, South Africa
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Death: Source David Barker In Australia: "had A Job On The Building The Railway At Bulawayo And Caught "Yellow Fever". There Are No Details On Where He Was Buried"
1903Bulawayo, Matabeleland North, Zimbabwe
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Regards Derek
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Hi Derek,
Thanks for all the information. I will try to obtain a copy of the Mary Jane Marks (nee Joll) file from the Cape Town Archives shortly.
Cheers
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A little more information on Nathaniel Joll which may help. In the West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser 31 Oct 1889 there is an article entitled 'Cornishman in Cape Colony'( page 6) by Rev F Carlisle Burton curate of Queenstown, Cape Colony formally lay assistant at Truro. This mentions Nathaniel Joll by name and that he is a resident from St Just arriving at East London third week in September 1889 to work on a Government bridging project at Cala
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Just for information
Nathanael Joll mentioned in the record of Ada Joll
Name Nathanael Joll
Gender Male
Wife Ruth
Daughter Ada Joll
Other information in the record of Ada Joll
from England Births and Christenings
Name Ada Joll
Gender Female
Christening Date 24 Sep 1888
Christening Place St. Just, Cornwall, England
Father's Name Nathanael Joll
Mother's Name Ruth