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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: conijoni on Friday 17 August 12 16:53 BST (UK)
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Rev Thomas Milner was ordained as a Church of England priest in 1893, originally for the Newcastle on Tyne diocese. He moved to London in 1899 as curate of Christ Church, West Green. In 1901, he founded the Church Red Cross Brigade, which became the Church Nursing and Ambulance Brigade around 1911. This was an organisation for girls similar to the St John's Ambulance Brigade. His wife was secretary to the Brigade and they had daughters who were also members. She became blind and eventually Rev Milner returned to the north - there are connections with Scarborough and Northumberland. I am looking for descendants of the Rev and Mrs Thomas Milner.
PS Other reading suggests he may have retired to Manchester.
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Do you have any idea of his dates? Census records will probably show if they did have children. Have you looked at them?
Andrea
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Have an entry for Milner from Clergy List for 1912...published Feb 4th 1912.
Deacon 1892, Priest 1893 (Newcastle on Tyne)
Curate of Holy Trinity, North Shields 1892 to 1895
Morpeth, Northbld. 1895 to 1898
Amble with Radcliffe and Hauxley, Acklington, Northbld. 1898 to 1899
Curate of Ch Ch, West Green 1899 to 1905
(address North Lea, Abbotsford Avenue, West Green Road)
St Thomas, Scarborough, 1905 to 1906
Ch Ch, Nth Kensington, 1906 to 1909
org sec Church Red Cross Brigade from 1908 : 163 Edgeware Rd
His move north may have been to Manchester.
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The 1911 census is currently free to search on Ancestry so why not see if you can find him? It looks as if he may well have been in the London area.
He appears in my 1951 copy of Crockford's.
Notting Hill 1906 - 19 then to Goole 1922 -25, Whitley Bay 25-28, Alston 1929-33, Croglin 1933-37. Address given as Croglin, Ashfield Grove, Whitley Bay, Northumberland.
Andrea
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Andrea. Thank you for the Cockford's listing. Very useful. I wonder why there is nothing for 1919 to 1922. I believe his wife became blind at this time. I will see if I can find him on the census. Thanks again.
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Checked again and it says " Perm. to Offic. Dio S'wark 1910-22; Dio. Lon.1920-22" Not sure what that means.
There is a similar bit for later too. "L. to Offic. Dios. Dur. and Newc.T. from 1937"
Andrea
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Checked again and it says " Perm. to Offic. Dio S'wark 1910-22; Dio. Lon.1920-22" Not sure what that means.
There is a similar bit for later too. "L. to Offic. Dios. Dur. and Newc.T. from 1937"
Andrea
Permission to officiate. Diocese of Southwark 1910 - 22. Diocese of London 1920 - 22.
This means he was given permission by the Bishops of Southwark and London to officiate at churches in their Dioceses between the dates quoted.
Licence to Officiate Dioceses of Durham and Newcastle upon Tyne from 1937.
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Thanks. Presumably that means he could be a "floating" vicar but was not necessarily attached to a parish.
Andrea
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Thanks Andrea and JenB. Have found the census record for 1911. They were living at 163 Edgware Road and Thomas Milner was organizing secretary for the Church Nursing and Ambulance Brigade. His wife, Florence Nightingale Milner was secretary to the organisation. Daughter - Florence Beatrice Milner. Your dates are a great help, especially as it shows he moved from London in 1922. This is when the CNAB lost its organising secretary and an approach was made to the Church Lads Brigade to take them over. Other dates, 1937, suggests retirement, at which point he was given permission to officiate in other churches.
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Thanks. Presumably that means he could be a "floating" vicar but was not necessarily attached to a parish.
Yes, that's right.
It still holds good today - for retired clergy, for instance, or perhaps, as in the case of a friend of ours, someone who is unable through ill-health to work full-time as a Vicar but who is still able and wishes to take the occasional service.
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Hello.
Rev Thomas Milner was my husbands great grandfather. We are lucky to have lots of info and the family photos. Are you still trying to find his descendants?
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Very interested indeed. Does that mean your husband has Beatrice Milner as a grandmother? Am very happy you have posted and will send you a personal message. You might be surprised what I have in terms of the Milners.
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Hello.
Rev Thomas Milner was my husbands great grandfather. We are lucky to have lots of info and the family photos. Are you still trying to find his descendants?
If this is your first post you will not be able to send or receive messages. You need three posts before you can do this.
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Mummawhitters...tried to send a second message but website says your inbox is full.
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Mummawhitters...am hoping you are notified of this post and will post again about the Milner family. Cannot send you a personal message as your inbox is full.
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Cannot send you a personal message as your inbox is full.
It's only showing as full because mummawhitters hasn't yet made the extra couple of posts needed to have access to the PM system.
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Cannot send you a personal message as your inbox is full.
Thanks JenB.
It's only showing as full because mummawhitters hasn't yet made the extra couple of posts needed to have access to the PM system.
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Hello.
Rev Thomas Milner was my husbands great grandfather. We are lucky to have lots of info and the family photos. Are you still trying to find his descendants?
Mummawhitters...still hoping you will get back to this post as am very interested in the Milners.