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Title: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Friday 17 August 12 17:39 BST (UK)
I am trying to trace the death of John Smith REID ( my grandfathers brother) and his wife ISABELLA (born May 1900 Bathgate Scotland).
They emigrated to the USA in May 1925 with their son and settled in Detroit Michigan and he worked in the Kelsay Hayes wheel plant as an electric welder.
In 1940 they were living at 60 Margaret St West Detroit


Are there any online BMD for michigan that are free

Any help or information about this couple would be really appreciated

Regards

John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 17:48 BST (UK)
Hi John,

https://familysearch.org/  should give you anything that is available in the USA

Naturalization for John Smith Reid - born 5th November 1890
Naturalization Detroit District Court - 26 th September 1939. Declaration:- 120335 - Petition 127511

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 17:52 BST (UK)
Naturalization for Isabella Reid - born 6 th March 1900
Naturalization Detroit District Court - 13 th October 1950
Petition 231126

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 18:00 BST (UK)
Detroit Border Crossing - Isabella Reid - Born 6 th March 1900 West Lothian. Scotland and aged 49 years
Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan  14 September 1949 - permanent residence:- 60 W Margaret - Detroit. (address agrees with 1940 Census)
Had entered the United States for permanent residence at Detroit May 1925.
Alien Redg No 4511101

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 18:03 BST (UK)
Michigan Death Record - Isabel B Reid  - Birth Date 6 th March 1900
and died 7 th  February 1982 Detroit. Wayne. Michigan
Last Residence: 48021  Eastpointe, Macomb, Michigan.

Sandra 
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 18:06 BST (UK)
Detroit Border Crossing - Isabel Reid - 6 March 1900 Black Burr. Scotland and aged 45 years
Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan 18 September 1945
Going to 60 W Margaret. Detroit. Michigan. Married. Housewife.
Had previously made lawfully entry Detroit. Michigan 4 th May 1925

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 17 August 12 19:04 BST (UK)
Brother-In-Law, wife and child are with John & Isabella in 1930 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.

John S Reid 38  Isabelle Reid 30
William Reid 8 Born Scotland.
Barbara Reid 1 Born Michigan.
John Bookless 31 Born Scotland. Dry Filer at Wheel Plant.
Cecilia Bookless 26 Born Scotland.
Daughter Bookless 0 Born Michigan

In 1940 the Bookless family have another daughter.
Canadian Passenger lists, border crossings etc for Cecelia

Cecilia B Bookless  - Birth Date: 29 Dec 1902
Death Date: 15 Jan 1990 Rochester Hills. Oakland. Michigan.
Residence: Madison Heights, Oakland, Michigan.

John Bookless - 14 July 1898 and died January 1982
SSN: 375-10-1860
Last Residence: 48220  Ferndale, Oakland, Michigan, 
SSN was issued in Michigan (Before 1951)


Sandra

 

Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shellyesq on Friday 17 August 12 19:18 BST (UK)
John's WWII draft registration card, which mentions George Bookless - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-16782-52277-27?cc=1861144
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Sunday 19 August 12 09:32 BST (UK)
Sandra
Is there anyway of checking the above death of Isabel Reid her birth date is about right ,but i cannot reconcile the B in the name her full name was Isabella Muirhead Annan REID. I have also found another death in Macomb county on 7 Jan 1997 for an Isabella REID.
Is there a way of checking that one.

Best regards

John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 August 12 10:30 BST (UK)
Sandra
Is there anyway of checking the above death of Isabel Reid her birth date is about right ,but i cannot reconcile the B in the name her full name was Isabella Muirhead Annan REID. I have also found another death in Macomb county on 7 Jan 1997 for an Isabella REID.
Is there a way of checking that one.

Best regards

John

The above Isabella Reid was born in 1917, much later than yours.


Maybe a slight idiosnycrasy in the Michigan death record that "B" was the middle initial. The SSDI didn't give a middle initial.

Isabel Reid
Born 6 Mar 1900 and died Feb 1982
Last Residence: 48021  Eastpointe, Macomb, Michigan.
SSN was issued in Michigan (1956)

The border crossing in reply 3 gave her birth date and the address matched the 1940 census.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Sunday 19 August 12 11:09 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra

for clearing that up for me. I would love to know what happened to her husband i can only presume that due to the name John Reid being common we will not find him. Only chance would have been if he used his full name John smith REID

Best Regards

John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 August 12 11:25 BST (UK)
Having the birth date meant we could check the SSDI - however, afraid he did not show on the SSDI (Social Security Death Index) which was up and running by about 1962, so that would lead me to believe John died before 1962  :'(

Sandra
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Sunday 19 August 12 11:28 BST (UK)
Sandra

all your work has been really appreciated

thank you again

Best regards

John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shawn315 on Friday 19 April 13 21:12 BST (UK)
In regards to John's post about John S. Reid and Isabella Reid's death, I concur that Sandra's post of the dates are correct. I am John and Isabella's granddaughter. In the late 70's, I visited John and Cecilia Bookless frequently. If you would like to know any more, please contact me via message.
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 20 April 13 18:02 BST (UK)
Hi sent you a pm would really like to know more about your side of the family, and to see if you were aware of another sister living in New York named Jessie
Regards

John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 20 April 13 18:22 BST (UK)
New members need 3 posts for the PM system to work.
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 20 April 13 18:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Shelley

Shawn 315 put 3 posts up then  i can send you my private email in a PM

thanks

john
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Monday 22 April 13 10:01 BST (UK)
Shawn 315 please put 3 posts up i cannot message you until you do so, unless someone else know show to do it
I would like to know more about John smith Reid and his family
John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shawn315 on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for John, his grandfather was the brother of my grandfather, John Smith Reid. He was married to Isabella. They came to Detroit Michigan but I have no idea what year. Their youngest daughter was my Mum. Isabella.
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shawn315 on Wednesday 04 April 18 03:07 BST (UK)
Shawn 315 please put 3 posts up i cannot message you until you do so, unless someone else know show to do it
I would like to know more about John smith Reid and his family
John
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: shawn315 on Wednesday 04 April 18 03:23 BST (UK)
Hi, that is correct Isabella was born March 6,1900 She was my grandmother. Her husband was John Smith Reid.
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Wednesday 04 April 18 16:47 BST (UK)
Shawn  PM sent

Cheers
Title: Re: John Smith REID born West calder 5 Nov 1890
Post by: Alexj on Sunday 27 May 18 20:52 BST (UK)
You do worry if people are playing games. I searched for John Smith Reid

A Person named Shawn 315 popped up on Friday 19 April 13 then disappeared again

On Tuesday 03 April 18  reappeared. I sent to their private email some details of John Smith Reid and how he fitted into the Reid family.

Then Shawn315 disappears again no reply to emails or anything.   

Sorry but it really annoys me