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My ancestors travelled to NZ in 1863, although we do not know the name of the vessel and my branch of the family has lived in the Waikato ever since. My great-great grandfather was William (Pevreal I think or similar spelling). My great grandfather was Israel. My grandfather was Thomas Pavreal (Pevreal) born in 1892 and he married Ina Alice Millard in 1915.
Any details you could provide on my great grandfather's family/relations and earlier history would be greatly appreciated. The names Pavreal and Pevreal seem intertwined.
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Possibly these records are relevant
Marriage
1884/1223 Ellen Pratt Israel Evan Pavreal
Birth
1892/9101 Pevreal Thomas Henry Ellen Israel
John B
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Ellen and Israel appear to be buried together at Hamilton
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0q5g/
BDM show his age at death as 75 so bc 1853
1928/7137 Pavreal Israel 75Y
but cemetery detail shows age as 85 so bc 1843 ???
John B
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Hi pavreal
... welcome to Rootschat. :)
Just for the sake of those keen to help here, am adding the link to the Gloucestershire board thread (to which you have responded) - where others have given some background information on the PAVREAL /PEVREAL family.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,390160.0.html
~ Lu
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Here is the death notice for Ina
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0q5i/
Cheers Janette
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Thanks Lu,
So from 1861 UK Census Israel b.1856
John B
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Hi,
There are a number of newspaper items to be found for Pevreal @ paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
You may find something of interest here.
Minniehaha.
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William also buried at Hamilton (see link above) - d. 1872 age 52 matches UK Census 1861.
I cannot find BDM records for either William or Ellen
John B
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Thank you so much everybody. You have given me plenty of material to go on with.
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William also buried at Hamilton (see link above) - d. 1872 age 52 matches UK Census 1861.
Mmmm ... did William's widow Elizabeth, re-marry ?
PapersPast link >
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"New Zealand Herald" - 11 November 1872 - page 2
DEEGAN - PEVREAL ... at Cambridge registrar's office, Hamilton on 5 November (1872) Mr John DEEGAN to Mrs Elizabeth PEVREAL, both of Hamilton.
~ Lu
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Elizabeth DEEGAN
74 years - died 20 April 1894
Hamilton West Cemetery - Plot A1A-J-08
Buried (same plot) with William PAVREAL - d. 7 February 1872 aged 52 years.
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Yes she certainly did re-marry (John Deegan), although she was not buried with him, ending up in the same plot as William in Hamilton. Where Deegan is buried is still a mystery.
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Hmmm ... have a feeling we had an earlier thread on here (a few years back if I recall), concerning John DEEGAN and Elizabeth .... "PEVERELL" (I think it was spelt) ???
[Will see if I can find it. ] :D
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.... concerning John DEEGAN and Elizabeth .... "PEVERELL" (I think it was spelt) ???
.... ah no, forget that, it doesn't actually relate directly to your PAVREAL / PEVREAL family.
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My great grandfather was Israel.
Any details you could provide on my great grandfather's family/relations and earlier history would be greatly appreciated.
Hi again
As you seem to already have some knowledge of the PAVREAL / PEVREAL family, could you tell us please, just what type of information you are wanting for your great-grandfather ?
[For the earlier history of the family, you may get better information by posting a (separate) query on, say, the Gloucestershire board ? ]
~ Lu
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Hi
If you have access to the ancestry.com website, you'll find several family trees for PEVREAL /PAVREAL (William and Elizabeth nee ROSSITER).
:)
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Where Deegan is buried is still a mystery.
There's a John DEEGAN buried at Greymouth who may be a possibility ??
Died 1915 - aged 88 years - (born about 1827).
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Grey River Argus" - 9 July 1915 - Funeral Notice
~ Lu
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Hi Pavreal,
William also buried at Hamilton (see link above) - d. 1872 age 52 matches UK Census 1861.
I cannot find BDM records for either William or Ellen
Further to the above, BDM have replied to my enquiry......
Regarding William PAVREAL -
I have checked to see if a transcription error had occurred, but was unable to locate a record that matched the details provided.
It may be that the death was registered under different details, for example a different date or another name he may have been known by.
It is possible, however, that the death was never registered. You might like to look on the microfiche indexes available at most main libraries to see if you're able to locate a reference for him.
Regarding Ellen PAVREAL -
This record was not found by your search as the surname had been transcribed as PARREAL. I have checked the record against the scanned original paper-based registration and as a result have amended the record to read PAVREAL. It should now be found by your search.
I do not have access to any library with death microfiche, but I agree with BDM that it would be worth checking there to see if his death can be found. I think it would be very unusual for Hamilton Cemetery to have a burial recorded of a death that was not registered - but who knows ???
John B
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Hello John...
Perhaps the following:
1872/2327 - PETHERELL, William - NR
Unfortunately I can't narrow down the date of death as it's pre-1880.
Can't find him on Archway or PapersPast.
The Burial Locator CD says "Age not recorded" but does mention "Cambridge".
Perhaps someone with knowledge of Cambridge records can help eliminate him.
Will be visiting the library over the weekend so will check the fiche for a death registration area
Regards
Beg
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Hi Beg,
Good find and it sounds promising.
An alternative spelling I came across was Peverell, so pretty close.
I'll check with BDM which might save you having to check the fiche.
Will post any reply received before the weekend.
John B
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Hi Beg,
BDM advise that the details for
1872/2327 - PETHERELL, William - NR
have been transcribed correctly from the original paper based registration.
Unfortunately, they are "unable to release any information from the record that does not appear on the website or advise you on which records to order, so cannot confirm whether or not this is the record you are looking for"
Not much help, I'm afraid :(
John B
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I am undertaking some "Pevreal" family research. William and Elizabeth came to NZ from Chepstow in 1863 and William joined the Militia. There are many variations of the name in the last 200 years. William and Elizabeth had abt 6 children and Israel was one and another is my GGFather William. I am very interested in expanding my information and you are welcome to anything that I have.
JOHN PEVREAL
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Thank you John. That would be wonderful. I remember very little of my grandfather (Thomas, son of Israel) except that he was a very gentle elderly man, who used to sit in his lazyboy chair with the family's siamese cat curled up on his head or shoulders. He was a man of few words, was very much under my grandmother's thumb by all acounts and never spoke of his previous life. I do know that he had a previous wife who died young and I think there were at least two children of that marriage. Would love to know more about the family history, anectdotes, etc.
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I have the family Crest and the meaning of the name I have copied part of what I have below. I have copies of the UK census 1851 and 1861. Details of enlistment in the Militia of William b 1819, reports of his death in 1872 and also Elizabeth in 1894, land holdings in Hamilton at time of death
WILLIAM PEVREAL b. 1819 Hewelsfield Gloustershire UK d. Hamilton NZ 1872
Son of William (1772-1852) and Sarah (1781-1851) – buried at Hewelsfield
Baptised Parish of Hewelsfield 4 April 1819
Married Elizabeth ROSITER 1841 in Chepstow Monmouthshire Wales
Emigrated to NZ in 1863 on HMS PORTLAND
Had with Elizabeth 6 Children – Sarah b.1843, Harriet b.1845, Mary Ann b.1848, William b.1851, Israel b 1853 George b.1858. There are reports that a child (Arthur) was b 1864.
William b. 1819 fought in the Maori Land Wars with the 4th Waikato Regiment, 4th Company and 2nd Waikato Militia
Was granted 3 roods and 17 perches of land in Hamilton. It is on Victoria Street South of Rostrevor Street.
He died in Hamilton 7th February 1872 and is buried in Hamilton West Cemetery near Rugby Park
I have photos of Sarah, Mary Ann and William b 1851 also possibly Elizabeth nee Rositter
Israel Evans PAVREAL married Ellen PRATT 1884
Israel d. 1928
Children (Pavreal) –
Elizabeth Helen 1885 m John Gaylor 1904
Amelia Emily b 1887 d 1952 m George Gaylor 1904
Andrew William 1887
(Pevreal) –
Thomas Henry 1892
Alice Mary 1903
THE PEVREAL NAME
There have been many variations –
PAVERELL – Used in UK Paris Records and Bishop’s transcripts
PAVERELL – Anne was christened in Hewelsfield 1811. Older Sister of Our William.
PEVERAL – Used in Marriage of William to Elizabeth Rositer in 1842
PEVERIL – Used in 1851 Census
PEVEREL – On intention to marry Certificate in 1865 (Harriet) and Birth Certificate Norman Hyde.
PROTHERVE – Used in Newspaper recording list of Passengers on HMS Portland 1863
PRUTHEROE – Name of William in 4th Waikato Militia
PUTHEROE – Used in Marriage of Mary Anne to Daniel Hyde
PETHERELL – Used on Death Certificate of William.
PEVREAL – First used in 1872 Elizabeth marriage to John Deegan.
You can contact me at (*)I would be delighted to get a photo of your Israel. There another Israel Evans Pevreal d Gisborne 1944. Please note that it is work in progress
The family MOTTO is - Hinc Mihi Salus
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Cheers Janette
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BDM advise that the details for
1872/2327 - PETHERELL, William - NR
have been transcribed correctly from the original paper based registration.
Hello John...
1872 Deaths fiche says the death for William PETHERELL was indeed registered in Cambridge.
Regards
Beg
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Hi there Pavreal, I'm also a descendant of William Henry Pevreal, and am attempting to establish a connection between him and my great-grandfather Edgar Alexander Pevreal, who was born in 1919 and passed away in 2005/6. Would you know anything about that side of the family? Likely candidates for his father would include Evan Pevreal, Richard Andrew Pevreal, one of George Pevreal's sons and perhaps even one of Arthur Pevreal's sons, if he had any.
Thanks,
Pev.
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Hello everyone,
I am helping my sister trace her husband's tree and we have found the name PETHERILL very hard to find so are wondering if it is just another variation to add to your list! We have the marriage certificate for Annie KING (married James LOGAN 14 June 1884 Wellington NZ) on it she states her parents are William KING and Sarah PETHERILL and that she was born in Gloucester, England and that she is 21 years old. We can not find a William King marrying Sarah Petherill so are wondering about your Sarah PEVERIL who would be about the right age and married John Thomas KING
1851 Census
Hewelsfield, Gloucester
HO107/2443/620/11
William PEVERIL, 32, Head, Mar, Labourer
Elizabeth, 31, Wife, Mar, born Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah, 8, Daug
Hariet Peveril, 5, Daug
Mary Ann, 2, Daug
William Henry, 2mths, Son
All but Elizabeth born Hewelsfield, Glous
We have found Annie KING born March quarter1863 (which makes her the right age to be our Annie King) in Chepstow (UKBDM) but don't know her parents. It would make her a wee baby if she come out with your family in July 1863.
We would be very interested to hear from anyone on this thread as to whether you think our Annie might tie in with the family you are tracing. The only bit that doesn't fit is her father being William seeing Sarah married John Thomas but thought it was worth asking in case you have found something we have missed.