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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: trachelospermum on Thursday 23 August 12 19:20 BST (UK)
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Hi, I've just started helping a friend with his family tree and have a problem already! We are unable to find any birth records of his great grandfather, Charles Alexander Burleigh Robson b abt 1882. All the information we have of him is from his son's death records from WW2.
Major Charles Alexander ROBSON, given as aged 29 and born in India on his
death cert. (KIA in Italy in 1944).
Father, 2nd Lieutenant Charles Alexander Burleigh ROBSON (known as
Charles), 2nd Battalion of the Royal Irish Fusiliers stationed in India after the
Boer war until leaving for France in December 1914. Died of wounds 8th November
1917.
Charles Alexander Burleigh Robson seems to have been a career army man which makes me wonder if his father (mentioned in his WW1 death records as Charles Burleigh Robson of Newcastle) had also been in the Services and they were also born abroad...
Can anyone suggest a route to follow? It doesn't help having so many people with the same name!! I have also posted on the Armed forces board just in case!
Any help finding these mens' births would be much appreciated!
Jo
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http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=3071303
You might already have this link.
Have you tried familysearch.org ??
Richard
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What do you know about Charles Alexander Burleigh Robson's wife? (Alice Helena).
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Hi. Are you still looking for info on Alexander Robson ?
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I have only just joined Rootschat so please bear with me
Are you still researching Charles Alexander Robson and his father? Charles Jnr was my mums cousin, she was also engaged to him. My mum passed away 8 years ago aged almost 90. She had been married to my dad for 50 years but never forgot Charles. After she passed away I found a letter written by Charles in mid 1943, 6 months or so before he died in Italy. I believe it to be a form of 'Dear John' letter as he incates that he doesn't believe he and mum should marry but also that he won't survive the war. Charles has always been close to my own heart so about 25 years ago I started to do some research and found what had happened to him and his father. I will never fully understand but I believe that the family didn't tell my mum of his death in the war.
I was very kindly sent copies of the war diaries from both WW1 and 2. I'm incredibly proud to be related to these 2 men. All my family has now gone that would know any more about either of them. I do have photos of Charles though if anyone wanted to see them.
My mums sister sometimes mentioned them, I recall she said Charles senior entered the army as a cook. His son went to Sandhurst. Charles Jnr was born in India on Christmas Day either 1914 or 15. Charles's mother Alice was very much against him marrying my mum, she tried her utmost to put a stop to it. I don't believe my family had anything to do with her after Charles was killed.
I have always wondered where their medals are and wished that I could touch them, at least I now know that they are with someone that cares.
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Charles A Robson who died 11 January 1944, of South Ridge Finchampstead Berkshire left a will it was probated 8 July 1944 by Gordon James Malin, Civil Servant.
As he was single it may not be enlightening.
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Find my past has all the India records on their site sorry I don't have a sub to view
Index
Charles Robson born 1912 Multan India
Charles Alexander Robson born 1914 Quetta India ** this one is definately yours
Frank Charles Robson born 1916 Lahore Bengal
There is also a passenger list for a C Robson born 1885 leaving England destination Calcutta in 1914
The other 2 births could be another family or part of the same family.
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There is also a Mary Alice Robson born 1912 Quetta India
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Welcome to Rootschat, Cumbrianangel :)
Thank you for sharing that story. Very sad and lots of gaps you'll probably not fill but you have already been able to get quite a bit of information. Unfortunately the person who started this thread hasn't been online since 2012 but there might be more details in this other topics-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=612140
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The Charles 1914 that amondg mentioned was christened at Quetta on 10 January 1915, born 25 December 1914. Parents Charles Alexander & Alice Helena Robson.
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To Cumbrianangel. I have sent message to you about the "Robsons"
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Hi,
I am the friend mentioned in the original post in 2012. Alexander Robson was I believe my great uncle. His father my great grandfather. Alexander has his name on the memorial at finchampstead in Berkshire.
It would be great to swap stories with you. Was very moved by your story. Alexander’s mum Alice used to live in finchampstead, after her death her daughter Violet used to live in the house. She was governess to the king of Sudan’s son. The house was left empty for months at a time and was broken into and we believe the any medals were stolen. I do have the original paper work of how he won the military cross.
Best regards
Mark
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Hi Mark, I was thrilled to read your message just a few minutes ago and on such a emotional day of course. 'Alexander' has always been referred to as Charles to me, as you know he was my mums cousin and her fiancé. Over the years I have become more and more interested in Charles and his family. They weren't mentioned much but I was aware that my mum had been engaged to him. He was 5 years old than mum. I do know that his mother, Alice, was very much against their engagement and it was obvious that my mum and her older sister didn't like her - or even the name Alice! I'd gathered Charles had died in the war and that mum had to return her 'beautiful sapphire ring'. It wasn't until after she passed away in 2010 that I found a letter to her from Charles written 6 months before he died. I didn't start my family research until after my dad died in 1996. By the time I received the death certificate for Charles I suspect mum was starting to suffer from mild dementia. When I showed her the certificate she just looked at me and said 'he did die then?'. I desperately wish I'd asked why she'd said that but didn't want to upset her. My mum sister passed away a few months after mum but she told me 'Charles was sweet on me but I was already married'. Yet again I didn't like to ask questions and now there is no one to ask.
I have always wondered what happened to both Charles's and his fathers medals than a chap on the forum posted to say he was researching their lives as he has the medals. Maybe they were stolen then sold at auction? I deeply wish they had stayed within the family.
I won't write more now as it's getting rather late. Do you have a photo of Charles? I have a portrait size one of him in uniform that he gave to mum and also a few family snaps.
A few years ago a chap from one of the forums very kindly sent me copies of war diaries relating to Charles's father and also some details regarding Charles's service record. He collects medals and said that he had ones for a private from Charles's battalion and there was a strong possibility that Charles's led him into battle at Monte Cassino. He wrote 'a very brave man'. I am so proud of both him and his father. So far I have found 9 other family lost in the 2 wars and I suspect there may be more as my research carries on......
Thank you SO much for getting in touch. It's amazing to be in touch with another member of Charles's family 😊
Best wishes, Shirley
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Hi Shirley,
Wow, sorry about your loss, what a touching story, I have 1 picture of both men, I will ask my mum tomorrow, I’m sure she will have a few! Would be great if you could e-mail me.
Best regards
Mark
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