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Title: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: alllegs on Tuesday 28 August 12 19:51 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for where to locate John Mulleague (and family) in Rosscommon. From the UK census records I have found he was born in Rosscommon in c1853. He married Julia Ann Hynes in Huddersfield in 1878 and died in the war in 1919. His father  (from his marriage cert) is also John Mulleague. No occupation given...

I am unsure what records are available for Ireland and how to go about searching online.

Thank you in anticipation
Legs
xxxx
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 28 August 12 19:59 BST (UK)
you can search for Mulleague families on the Griffiths valuation,,compiled 1847-1864..it records the head of families who are tenants of land..i can see 3 James Mulleagues,,,you can click on their records and se what parishes/townlands they were in.

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 28 August 12 20:11 BST (UK)
i see you already have this info from another thread.
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: alllegs on Tuesday 28 August 12 20:13 BST (UK)
I'm unsure as to how or which of these James' are related to my John...?
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: alllegs on Tuesday 28 August 12 20:18 BST (UK)
I have the family on the 1891 and 1911 census but cannot find them otherwise.  I think I have daughter Annie aged 21 on the 1901 but none of the others

I have births for John's children: John Thomas (1880-1893), Austin (1882), Kathleen (1884-1884), James Hubert (1888-1926), Mary (1890-1890). There also seems to be a Charles and a Martin on the census returns born c1882 and 1885 respectively.
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Tuesday 28 August 12 20:42 BST (UK)
Hi Allegs,

From the 1901 Census Ireland a John aged 54 approx DOB by age 1847 is residing in Deerpark,Basilck.  I think you can eliminate the Deerpark James purely on the basis of two John Mulleague being born and surviving to the same father is unlikely.

One more elimination to go perhaps.

 
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: alllegs on Tuesday 28 August 12 21:20 BST (UK)
Thank you Padraig. Any idea how to eliminate the other?!
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Tuesday 28 August 12 21:37 BST (UK)
Hi Allegs,

The Civil Registration records are all we have to make deductions. The area your Mulleague family would have been is Castlereagh.
 
There are three James Mulleague deaths from the LDS records of Civil deaths of interest:-

James Mulleague birth 1812 Death 1874 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qif/
James Mulleague birth 1835 Death 1898 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qig/
James Mulleague birth 1791 Death 1865 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qih/

The James born 1835 may be one of those on the Grffith Valuations but is unlikely to have had a grandson born in 1847 so is unlikely to be the Deerpark option.

If you are inclined groireland http://www.groireland.ie/or rootsireland http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qij/ will be able to supply certificates which should have the townland. There are no guarantees these will definitively provide the answer but as records for this parish only date from 1865 , the options are very limited.

Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 28 August 12 21:48 BST (UK)
Quote from: alllegs on Tuesday 28 August 12 20:18 BST (UK)
I have the family on the 1891 and 1911 census but cannot find them otherwise.  I think I have daughter Annie aged 21 on the 1901 but none of the others
 

Hello,

1881  4381/ 23/39 has them transcribed as Mulliague
1901  4104 /118 / 7 -Mullague

I'm a bit confused - you say that his father is John but the Roscommon records referred to are for James.  ???

regards
heywood
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Tuesday 28 August 12 22:29 BST (UK)
Hello Heywood,

Rarity of the name in the area leads me to believe it is one of the three families. I am looking at this as the tennant being a James having a son living with him , John , who in turn has his own young family living under the same roof.

The birth 1853 aprrox and The valuation 1857 , coupled with two of the birth years for James from the LDS site suggest this premise to be possible.
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 28 August 12 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi Padraig,

That's what I figured - it was just the jump from John to James which wasn't quite clear.

Thanks

heywood
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Tuesday 28 August 12 22:52 BST (UK)

Hi Heywood,

There are a number of possibilities. I've seen a possible John aged 17 in Altrincham and a possible father in Stockton on Tees from the 1871 census, which is all speculation.

All we can do is offer possibilities for the connection based on allegs info.
Title: Re: John Mulleague, b c1853, Rosscommon
Post by: alllegs on Wednesday 29 August 12 09:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Padraig and Heywood,

I'll pass all this info on to my godfather as he is the Mulleague I'm looking for.

The John to James jump could be that James is actually John's father, the 1878 marriage certificate is very tricky to read, it obviously begins with a J but looking at it it could be anything! John and James are both names which have been carried down through the generations.

My godfathers maternal line id even more difficult, I don't know where to start with the Przegendza surname!!!

Thanks again
Legs
xxx